Hey, if they want to pick up the bill, I'd play by their rules. Or fuck them all together and go solar. Oh, that's right, they don't like that either.

ouch! you got me, punk :1orglaugh

i thought theking didn't respond to trolls. at least that was the impression i got with the 6 threads he started stating so.

When they troll me...but I am trolling 12clicks. BTW...I think it may be more than 6...but I really haven't been counting...so your number may be the correct number.

it was a random #. i just know there were more than a few.

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Some parent's children.

Get a real TV and it won't be a problem :thumbsup
"One additional point of note: The new rules currently don't apply to very large TVs, those of 1,400 square inches or larger (roughly a 58" set), although rules are likely to be enacted against these ultra-large sets in the second phase of this legislation."

Edison was the one that started the Cash for Old Fridge program, that's how the Cash For Clunkers program started. Edison did that 30 years ago.

The plasma TV thing is a joke, what next. :Oh crap

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I own to plasmas. the only reason why, is because i can't watch my tv from a straigth angle and was worried about that angle thing with an lcd of the color being slightly off to one side. Hell if my computer monitor that is right in front of my face has a slight off color when i move. i can only imagine what the lcd does.

Plasma sucks way to much energy. the new "led-lcd" take alot less power then the current lcds and soon we will have the oleds which will be better.

This is a good law. it will help cut back on peoples power bills and rightfully so. Here in florida they are increasing our rates by 25% thats a bit bullshit i think. i will have to pay an extra grand a year for power pretty soon. I sure could use that for a mortgage payment in these tough times.

I stand by the terminator on this one.

damn that really sucks glad I am no longer there! I like my big ass TV

And if you were there you still could have your big ass tv. The law doesn't apply to TV people already own. And it also doesn't prevent big ass TVs from being sold. So I'm not sure why it "sucks"

Im pretty sure you can have a big tv. Just not a plasma tv because they are power suckers. Not that it matters, as in an earlier post, plasma is a dying breed. their sales are sharply down as lcd has taken over. Thats ok, im sure when my huge 42 in plasma goes out, that i will be able to get an oled or that 3d tv that is out by mitsubishi. that looks cool too.

I want an LED!

n/m misread.

california has always been on the forefront on the country with cleaner and healthier living, i am fine with these laws..
there is also a law that california power companies must generate 20% of their power from renewable energy by 2020 or 2030... i think it is great.

Well I know it sucks, but don't you guys already have rolling black outs because of power shortages or have they fixed that? Simply put if you don't have thew power to run the shit you have, well then you either need more power or less power usage.

Maybe TV's aren't the best place to start, but they do have to start somewhere..

LOL! I'm glad you said it so I didn't have to :)
We all live on the same planet Earth and we only have 1!

I admit I ddnt read the article I'm about to run out the door, but I can think of so many energy AND WATER wasters in California or the US that was can focus on other than TV sets..hmmm

If GFY is in any way representative of how little research people (in general) do when they are fed 'news' by the media about a new law ...you/we are in big trouble.
The thread is funny on many levels but it needs more torches and pitchforks.

think it's a good idea

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ovens use even more they should ban those also

those were due to the enron deal i mentioned above in post #2. a total scam.

Sadly, it is.

They still have them in the Valley.

i know, but the majority of rolling brownouts statistically are primarlily due to the power deal made with enron.

second page? Iam surprised I thought this discussion was already finished 10 posts ago? Still entertaining...:thumbsup

"Rest assured, this doesn't mean the end of the television as we know it. As the California Energy Commission notes, as of now, over 1,000 televisions already meet the 2011 standards, so many manufacturers won't have to panic in order to comply with the regulations, at least for now. "


yeah but i still think it's a wrong way of cutting cost

Good thing I'm not in CA, just got a Panasonic V10 65"... they say it's one of the least power hungry plasmas, but I think it still takes 3xx watts on avg...

It's funny it doesn't touch screens bigger than 58" though...

First we HAVE to buy health insurance or go to jail, then congress introduces another bill to restrict free speech, e.g., adult web sites, and now we can't own a big screen TV. This is just one stop sign after another. Pretty soon it'll be illegal to piss more than twice during any 24 hour period. I am beginning to wonder if those nut-ball town hall screamers might actually be right about this government.

Wow thats big.. congrats, makes me jealous :winkwink:. Ok 3D TV could change my decision to buy a new TV... :upsidedow

Are you stupid? OK first of all NONE of things are laws. And the TV issue is a STATE thing and the others you mention are on FEDERAL level. So you're all over the place. Please try to be consistant with your rants.

Please show me where it is a law or even proposed law where you have to buy health insutrance or go to jail. Please show me where it's a law you can't buy a big screen TV. Please show me the law where porn is restricted on the internet. LINKS or you are gay.

I just love how ignorant people think because some ONE person PROPOSES a law that it sudden turns into "A law was passed". It's amazing how few people know how the process of passing law gets done. At least 95% of ideas that get PROPOSED get killed off in commitee most of those that do get past committee don't get passed either.

hehe thought the same when goverment said there won't be normal bulbs available in 2009, now it's impossible to get any in german shops :). It's not forbidden to have any but you can't sell/buy them anymore, only these slightly shining energy saving bulbs, which need 20min until they are really a little bit bright. Sad but real, I don't know if it's allowed to import them so I can't say anything about that. In that way I could imagine this proposed law.

Here's a clue, Germany is NOT the USA. And if it take 20 minutes for your bulbs to get bright then they suck. I have no issues with the one I use and I appreciate the saving son my electrical bill every month. Even the ones outside are totally bright even in the winter ( where it's typically in the 20s at night where I live )within 5 minutes. Maybe you Germans suck making lightbulbs. I know you guys were used to making things out of dead jews and you can't do that anymore so perhaps that's the problem.

I don't use CFLs because some law told me too or because I feel I'm "saving the planet" I do it because I save money. Over the lifetime of the bulbs they'll save me over $500. I have better things to do with that $500 than to give it to the electric company. Perhaps you don't.

:helpme I think you need some punishment like this guy.. :helpme
http://www.femdom-violations.com/fhg...v16707_307.jpg

strange law...

Next generation of Panasonic plasmas will have 3D... but I think it'll be so new and so limited it won't be worth waiting for. Also doesn't sound fun to watch TV with 3D glasses on...