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cykoe6 11-19-2009 09:29 AM

Typical green party leftist nonsense. The big government commissars will not be happy until they control every minute aspect of your life.

NBBCash Matze 11-19-2009 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 16566826)
are you going to believe the person that posted this without actually READING what has been passed or using LOGIC?


Let me use a brighter shade of crayon for the confused ones.

TVs are becoming more and more efficient every year. By the time this law take effect only the most cheap ass POS TVs will not be in compliance. Why would you want one of those anyways.


Just because this tard doesn't think it's possible doesn't mean it's not. Now if improvements cause power cosumption to drop 23% every 18 months by 2013 that 293 watt TV will only only use 173 watts. 2 watts under the law.


Also TV using less power means less drain on the electrical grid which means less power pants needed. Guess who would have paid for those new power plants that needed to be built Einsteins?



My math says that's $225 for every man woman and child in California. You don't like saving money?

thx but I've read the article before I posted my answer.
Why, because I already own my plasma since 1 year, it's a great TV and I don't want to buy a newer TV before the old one is broken... Because I am so satisfied with my TV that I would buy the same again in few years (if there will be a shop that still sells these).
And no as long as electricity is affordable I would use my 480watt TV (but never mind, I don't live in california) .. and no Iam not so confused as you maybe think GatorB thx :thumbsup

Sly 11-19-2009 09:34 AM

I'm curious if you all are complaining about new car efficiency standards as well.

12clicks 11-19-2009 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 16566903)
Yes you vote for people that not only want you out of business but in prison. REAL fucking smart you dipshit. You're like a jew for Hitler or a black guy for the KKK. You're a walking talking contradiction. Now STFU already.

what the rabble think they know never fails to make me laugh.:1orglaugh

theking 11-19-2009 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 16566954)
what the rabble think they know never fails to make me laugh.:1orglaugh

You are apparently easily amused...many people with IQ's on the low side are.

12clicks 11-19-2009 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by theking (Post 16566966)
You are apparently easily amused...many people with IQ's on the low side are.

yup, I'm dumb as a stump. h
life isn't fair for you smart fellers is it? :1orglaugh

justinsain 11-19-2009 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by NBBCash Matze (Post 16566928)
thx but I've read the article before I posted my answer.
Why, because I already own my plasma since 1 year, it's a great TV and I don't want to buy a newer TV before the old one is broken... Because I am so satisfied with my TV that I would buy the same again in few years (if there will be a shop that still sells these).
And no as long as electricity is affordable I would use my 480watt TV (but never mind, I don't live in california) .. and no Iam not so confused as you maybe think GatorB thx :thumbsup

You wouldn't have to give up your current TV and buy a new one to be compliant. The new regulations would be for all TVs sold after that date.

12clicks 11-19-2009 09:52 AM

nice to see you still alive and kicking, pathfinder......punk :thumbsup:

theking 11-19-2009 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 16566975)
yup, I'm dumb as a stump. h
life isn't fair for you smart fellers is it? :1orglaugh

Other than my health issues...I do not have any complaints...but then again I do not consider myself to be smart...just average...which is clearly a notch above you.

UniqueD 11-19-2009 09:54 AM

just get lcd or oled tv's? i'd think they use far less power than plasma?

Les Grossman 11-19-2009 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberHustler (Post 16566807)
Yeah, because as long as you can afford to waste energy... you might as well do it. Fuck everybody else.

Hey, if they want to pick up the bill, I'd play by their rules. Or fuck them all together and go solar. Oh, that's right, they don't like that either.

12clicks 11-19-2009 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by theking (Post 16566990)
Other than my health issues...I do not have any complaints...but then again I do not consider myself to be smart...just average...which is clearly a notch above you.

ouch! you got me, punk :1orglaugh

dyna mo 11-19-2009 09:56 AM

i thought theking didn't respond to trolls. at least that was the impression i got with the 6 threads he started stating so.

theking 11-19-2009 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 16567003)
i thought theking didn't respond to trolls. at least that was the impression i got with the 6 threads he started stating so.

When they troll me...but I am trolling 12clicks. BTW...I think it may be more than 6...but I really haven't been counting...so your number may be the correct number.

dyna mo 11-19-2009 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by theking (Post 16567017)
When they troll me...but I am trolling 12clicks. BTW...I think it may be more than 6...but I really haven't been counting...so your number may be the correct number.

it was a random #. i just know there were more than a few.

baddog 11-19-2009 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by NBBCash Matze (Post 16566928)
thx but I've read the article before I posted my answer.
Why, because I already own my plasma since 1 year, it's a great TV and I don't want to buy a newer TV before the old one is broken...

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Some parent's children.

Due 11-19-2009 11:08 AM

Get a real TV and it won't be a problem :thumbsup
"One additional point of note: The new rules currently don't apply to very large TVs, those of 1,400 square inches or larger (roughly a 58" set), although rules are likely to be enacted against these ultra-large sets in the second phase of this legislation."

Semi-Retired-Dave 11-19-2009 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by cherrylula (Post 16566719)
they should start with the fridge and washing machine companies, they use more power than TVs

Edison was the one that started the Cash for Old Fridge program, that's how the Cash For Clunkers program started. Edison did that 30 years ago.

The plasma TV thing is a joke, what next. :Oh crap

SpicyM 11-19-2009 11:25 AM

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

stoner529 11-19-2009 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by theking (Post 16566848)
Well...I don't personally own either type...but I have seen both types and I personally give the LCD a slight edge on picture quality over the Plasma...but you are right...Plasma owners will probably defend the Plasma until they are blue in the face.

I own to plasmas. the only reason why, is because i can't watch my tv from a straigth angle and was worried about that angle thing with an lcd of the color being slightly off to one side. Hell if my computer monitor that is right in front of my face has a slight off color when i move. i can only imagine what the lcd does.

Plasma sucks way to much energy. the new "led-lcd" take alot less power then the current lcds and soon we will have the oleds which will be better.

This is a good law. it will help cut back on peoples power bills and rightfully so. Here in florida they are increasing our rates by 25% thats a bit bullshit i think. i will have to pay an extra grand a year for power pretty soon. I sure could use that for a mortgage payment in these tough times.

I stand by the terminator on this one.

Tanker 11-19-2009 11:27 AM

damn that really sucks glad I am no longer there! I like my big ass TV

GatorB 11-19-2009 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Tanker (Post 16567277)
damn that really sucks glad I am no longer there! I like my big ass TV

And if you were there you still could have your big ass tv. The law doesn't apply to TV people already own. And it also doesn't prevent big ass TVs from being sold. So I'm not sure why it "sucks"

stoner529 11-19-2009 11:44 AM

Im pretty sure you can have a big tv. Just not a plasma tv because they are power suckers. Not that it matters, as in an earlier post, plasma is a dying breed. their sales are sharply down as lcd has taken over. Thats ok, im sure when my huge 42 in plasma goes out, that i will be able to get an oled or that 3d tv that is out by mitsubishi. that looks cool too.

HDADULT 11-19-2009 12:01 PM

I want an LED!

dyna mo 11-19-2009 12:01 PM

n/m misread.

JP-pornshooter 11-19-2009 12:07 PM

california has always been on the forefront on the country with cleaner and healthier living, i am fine with these laws..
there is also a law that california power companies must generate 20% of their power from renewable energy by 2020 or 2030... i think it is great.

crockett 11-19-2009 12:13 PM

Well I know it sucks, but don't you guys already have rolling black outs because of power shortages or have they fixed that? Simply put if you don't have thew power to run the shit you have, well then you either need more power or less power usage.

Maybe TV's aren't the best place to start, but they do have to start somewhere..

AaliyahLove 11-19-2009 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberHustler (Post 16566807)
Yeah, because as long as you can afford to waste energy... you might as well do it. Fuck everybody else.

LOL! I'm glad you said it so I didn't have to :)
We all live on the same planet Earth and we only have 1!

I admit I ddnt read the article I'm about to run out the door, but I can think of so many energy AND WATER wasters in California or the US that was can focus on other than TV sets..hmmm

Mickey_ 11-19-2009 12:24 PM

If GFY is in any way representative of how little research people (in general) do when they are fed 'news' by the media about a new law ...you/we are in big trouble.
The thread is funny on many levels but it needs more torches and pitchforks.

_Richard_ 11-19-2009 12:27 PM

think it's a good idea

digifan 11-19-2009 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by czarina (Post 16566744)
air conditioners use more power... why dont they ban those?

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:thumbsup

ztik 11-19-2009 12:33 PM

ovens use even more they should ban those also

dyna mo 11-19-2009 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 16567379)
Well I know it sucks, but don't you guys already have rolling black outs because of power shortages or have they fixed that?


those were due to the enron deal i mentioned above in post #2. a total scam.

baddog 11-19-2009 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Mickey-AWE (Post 16567410)
If GFY is in any way representative of how little research people (in general) do when they are fed 'news' by the media about a new law ...you/we are in big trouble.
The thread is funny on many levels but it needs more torches and pitchforks.

Sadly, it is.

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 16567435)
those were due to the enron deal i mentioned above in post #2. a total scam.

They still have them in the Valley.

dyna mo 11-19-2009 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 16567445)
Sadly, it is.



They still have them in the Valley.


i know, but the majority of rolling brownouts statistically are primarlily due to the power deal made with enron.

NBBCash Matze 11-19-2009 12:47 PM

second page? Iam surprised I thought this discussion was already finished 10 posts ago? Still entertaining...:thumbsup

art914 11-19-2009 01:24 PM

"Rest assured, this doesn't mean the end of the television as we know it. As the California Energy Commission notes, as of now, over 1,000 televisions already meet the 2011 standards, so many manufacturers won't have to panic in order to comply with the regulations, at least for now. "


yeah but i still think it's a wrong way of cutting cost

barelist 11-19-2009 01:46 PM

Good thing I'm not in CA, just got a Panasonic V10 65"... they say it's one of the least power hungry plasmas, but I think it still takes 3xx watts on avg...

It's funny it doesn't touch screens bigger than 58" though...

POed-poster 11-19-2009 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 16566697)
In a state that clearly needs to get it's shit together they have now gone even wackier and started the TV police.

"In a move that could spell the end of the plasma TV industry as we know it, the state of California agreed today to enact strict regulations on the amount of power televisions can consume, effectively outlawing most large plasma TVs as of January 1, 2011, with many more televisions set to be banned beginning January 1, 2013"

http://tech.yahoo.com/blogs/null/154...er-hungry-tvs/


.

First we HAVE to buy health insurance or go to jail, then congress introduces another bill to restrict free speech, e.g., adult web sites, and now we can't own a big screen TV. This is just one stop sign after another. Pretty soon it'll be illegal to piss more than twice during any 24 hour period. I am beginning to wonder if those nut-ball town hall screamers might actually be right about this government.

NBBCash Matze 11-20-2009 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by barelist (Post 16567633)
Good thing I'm not in CA, just got a Panasonic V10 65"... they say it's one of the least power hungry plasmas, but I think it still takes 3xx watts on avg...

It's funny it doesn't touch screens bigger than 58" though...

Wow thats big.. congrats, makes me jealous :winkwink:. Ok 3D TV could change my decision to buy a new TV... :upsidedow


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