personally I think that's just based on greed and forcing one view point.

what about all the small webmasters starting unique programs and such that can't afford a large banner but make huge contributions to GFY in time and effort.

it feels like an attempt to squish anyone starting out.

let the forum and threads stand on their own. I personally don't even like the idea of pinning a thread for a program - it should be bumped with REAL comments - not bots - and if it isn't then in reality it's something no one really wants to promote or gives a shit about anyway.

I do agree with the contest rules though - an exception might be considered for anyone running a non-commercial contest though (as I have done in the past) but the commercial ones often get out of hand and really need some control


if GFY were to stop the small webmsters from talking about their programs - I'd leave and support another board.

we're webmasters - our websites are our LIVES - it's why we're here - it's what we want to talk about and be proud about. Any restrictions on that would KILL this place.


PRdave - i think your idea is based solely on your own greed.

How about we all STOP sending traffic to pimproll? Come on Dave, surely you have more business knowledge than this. These very sites that you want to remove from GFY also run blogs, etc... that send traffic to your program. Do you really want to hurt them?

making this forum "advertisers only" would be the kiss of death. Nobody wants to read a board with nothing but advertising, or the random thoughts only of people that can pay for the priveledge. What an absurd idea, & double absurd the board moderator thinks it has merit.

I knew there was a reason I left PR years ago. geez!

I come here looking for stuff before I go anywhere else, get rid of the "spam" and the only thing left are the bullshit threads like horse dick dot text and someone calling someone else an asshole... Now IMHO if you got rid of those maybe we could get some business done.

LOL...so which Duke are you?

http://www.joshgirlsmarketing.com/im...e-brothers.jpg

there are programs larger then pimproll - by that logic - why use pimp roll?

they're not the biggest so why trust your traffic to them.......

i've never chosen a program based on it's size - i do it based on quality above other things and if I like it or not

I come here to find sponsors for my sites, Small, big and ugly
I dont care who pays who, just pay me on time

I agree...and get rid of these fucking idiots who do nothing but post in the contest threads! How the fuck are they contributing to GFY in a positive way? Oh, I forgot...it bloats the post counts and views for advertisers. DUH ME!

Unless you are paying for advertising you are not sitting in my shoes.

I pay big bucks for my GFY banners, not wrong of me to expect more for my ad dollars.

Also I am all about clearing out the dead weight programs that consistently spam this board.

:thumbsup

Are they advertisers here? Paying for ad space? Probably. So I have no issues with them.

Spinning wheels here.

Great! Good luck to you.

Sleazy, I count dozens of my galleries on your site :( Why the hate all of a sudden? :pimp

I think a dedicated "Announcement" could be of good value for GFY and their advertisers.

Advertisers could could get a pinned thread for a week on such a forum, ensuring higher exposure vs non advertisers.

Furthermore I don't think it would hurt the board to have in general 4-5 pinned threads at any given time in the main forum from advertisers only neither.

Did the 40% drop go to other sites? If not, where do you think the other 40% go?

Yes, I request that we have hourly fresh coffee in the lobby. I find it tends to get cold and stale after about an hour of Juicy dipping his waxed nuts in the pot every 5 minutes.

Thanks,
A Loyal GFY Grunt.

fair enough...GFY can give you more exposure without creating a spam forum for people that don't buy advertising.

Why would anyone read a forum with nothing but advertising anyway? The only creative content on this board are the trolls. Just my feeling, but all the traffic on this board will move to the interesting threads, not a forum with nothing but program marketing.

what you are suggesting will KILL GFY

so anyone who can't afford a $3000 ad shouldn't be allowed to talk about their program?

I'm REALLY loosing a LOT of respect for you in this thread............

Next thing you know, people will start complaining about spam...



https://youtube.com/watch?v=anwy2MPT5RE

PR_Dave , stop advertising here if you are not happy the way it is . This place
is like the Adult Craigslist (and they don't even have any advertisement there) , the free concept does wonders to sites ,
take that away and you will lose traffic quick ....

you have some good galleries. I posted them as such.

dozens - I think not - i doubt there's ever been more than 3-4 on the site at any time.

usually less.

do they do well - yes - your program is good. not going to deny that.

If you think I'm going to suck your cock for that - you don't know me very well.

if posting your galleries requires me to agree with you - BE CLEAR ABOUT IT and SAY IT NOW. if I have to agree with you on GFY to use your galleries or get paid for them, then our business relationship is done.

The hate comes from watching someone trying to kill the little guy. Why do you care if a shitty little program posts a spam on GFY? Does it hurt you?

I hazard to say it probably HELPS you - why?

someone tries the little program. the new little program is new to this game. They don't have all the systems you have and experience you have in place to convert. They arn't cascading like you are or have the programmers you have. as such they don't convert as well. The webmaster then tries your program as SEES the difference.

I'm honestly disgusted by someone wanting to stop a smaller program from trying to exist.

if a rule like you suggest becomes a rule here, I WILL leave. I will find another place to spend my time and I'll take a lot of people with me. Will I end GFY? - hell no. But I can guarantee that a rule like you suggest like this will severely hurt GFY. I stuck by GFY on their decision to allow the tubes to advertise, why - fair playing field. By your logic no would should be able to slam them in any thread cause they paid for the spot. I won't have any part of that. I'm here cause this place is free, unrestricted, and overall a great place I have supported with huge time, praise, and my own money many times for close to 10 years.

Please don't take that away from me and everyone else here. You will do more harm to the webmaster community then you could ever imagine.....unless that is your goal......

I pray you have the wisdom to retract your statement. I understand the idea of maximizing your advertising dollars. Hurting the little programs is the wrong way to do it.

:2 cents:

What he said!

10x better than I could at that!

Kudos to Sleazy. 100% on point. I think the same kind of greed that fueled this post is the same kind of greed that steals from webmasters any chance they get. I don't trust people like that at all. Kind of sketchy sending traffic to a program ran on greed. :thumbsup

don't get me wrong - pimproll has some great galleries... i think i always get 1-3 sales for most every gallery of theirs i post, and i put them in LOW positions too so that means they KNOW how to convert.

he helps a lot of webmasters with great content and great conversions. And pimproll has ALWAYS paid me and on time

that's why I don't understand his reasoning here AT ALL

Yep I agree with you 100% but Ibill used to always pay on time as well but then the greed got the best of all of us. All I'm saying is you got to have an eye out on greedy owners/ companies, not talking about PR-dave really just greedy companies in general.

Hmmm. I understand your complaint. But I don't know any new program that started out big. Im sure there are many quality people and businesses that can't yet afford GFY advertising and "1/2 asses" isn't a very good statement :2 cents:

If you pay big bucks for GFY ads you're getting ripped off :1orglaugh

Dating gold, stand up company!!!:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

Stand up and Vote, brethren: http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=940242

I knew there was a reason I have never promoted pimproll in my soon 11 years in this biz.

really good point :2 cents:

Very good point! :thumbsup

If only the advertisers can post then we will have nothing but posts from crap cross sale programs and tube sites.

It's the little posts that have always made me the money. And I imagine that if you remove them a lot of the webmasters will follow them somewhere else.

hot teens, more pic and topic

:thumbsup

First off, while I'm not sending mad traffic or anything, I do promote PimpRoll sites and I've recommended them to others. And I found them through GFY. Probably a lot of people like me did, so the money PimpRoll has spent here is probably well spent.

If PimpRoll blocked me from ever posting a thread with holidays pics or something I recently shot that I'm happy about or fan signs etc., I'd be pretty bummed.

If somebody's first post is spam, I'm not going to as into promoting them as if they participate in GFY. I certainly don't like posters who are trying to sell me something in every thread they post in. I also don't like posters who are constantly negative or who are psycho racist and sexist or who are dudes who pretend to be a chick when talking to webmasters. Everybody has stuff they don't like, but I don't expect Eric to be my nanny either. I understand that PimpRoll has more reason to feel justified in making demands, because PimpRoll is paying for that privilege, but it seems to me that PimpRoll is getting value from advertising with GFY.

If I tend to enjoy someone's posts or find them useful, I'm more likely to click on a thread they started.

PS Dave, if you feel like sending me some exit or cross-sale traffic from PunkRockGF, we'd probably both make some extra dough and get a positive out of this thread :)

:1orglaugh Please define "couldn't resist"

"who are psycho racist and sexist "

you must be tired tonight... go drink some blood - it'll make you feel better....:P