Originally Posted by digitaldivas (Post 16586344)

There is a girl that I have shot several times and I had agreed to help get her started with her own website, with the end goal of educating her to do her own updates, etc, teaching her the basics of photoshop, dreamweaver, etc.

She had been kinda blowing me off as of late. I figured she just had alot of other things going on. We were suppost to go over our contract last night and she postponed that to next week.

I replied to her email stating that maybe it would be better if she got another webmaster to help her out, as it seemed like she had alot of stuff going on in her life right now, etc. And I would rather have us be friends instead of having any potential rift as far as doing a partnership together.

She replied saying that she had mailed me but got an error message saying that my mailbox was full. I have never had anyone say that I have gotten an error message in the 6 years I have had my email accounts. She also said that she was not going to beg me to do her site and that she has other offers, which is fine.

I had told her that alot of girls in this industry were fickle and I had only met with her 3 times and did not know her that well. That I was just being careful. She replied that if I didn't trust her that there was no reason to do the partnership.

Am I being mean from what you have read? Some porn actresses are just fucking nuts. I was just trying to convey that actions speak louder than words and I was not sure that her heart was in it. As usually if you want to work with someone, you try to have a good solid first impression. Not returning emails imho is not a good first impression.

Some of my other friends in this biz that are producers say to me "run the other way". That saying that other girls who do solo sites put the "H" in "handful" And not worth my time, as most girls are just selfish. I was going to give her the benefit of the doubt. I feel like she is a good person, but...

I would like some advice from other producers on here that run solo sites. Are you both pretty happy about it? Those of you that have shot girls for they're own solo sites, is it a great working relationship or is it just a huge headache?

From her last email, we are dead in the water I guess. I guess I should not have even offered to help her out. And I am quite suprised that she has pulled the plug via 3 emails, just because I questioned her sincerity towards the endeavor and had doubts. Which kinda pisses me off. And I have most likely lost her friendship as well. But I guess if that is the case, we were never really friends anyway.

What do you other producers think?

Originally Posted by LushBoobs (Post 18404966)

I spent the last two years focused on one model and one solo model site. While it was doing well and growing, she had a tantrum pulled out, kept all the equipment both computer and cameras, cams and hd video, didn't return anything, didn't call and quit, then slandered the hell out of me to justify breaking a 5 year agreement. I would have never put that much time and energy and funds nor would my business partners, had we known she would bail out after a lil over a year - and not in a good way. I will never touch a solo model site again either - ever. I won't work with solo girls, and I'm not even sure I want to shoot or meet these models anymore. that's how unethical I have found them to be.. and yes - they change their minds about what they want quite frequently - and it's hard to make any long term plans or investments into a brand thats future is decided on the random whims or bad moods of unstable people.

Originally Posted by Failed (Post 18404986)

Don't waste your time or money. Come on, you know that she isn't going to be able to fill the site with the content you need on a regular basis. You knew that as you were typing your first post. Trust your gut!

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 18405406)

Your dealing with a model. If she was smart, she wouldn't be a model, she'd be a program owner. When I worked for Lightspeed Cash I handled all of the models, and their stupidity never seized to amaze me.

The best one was Tawnee Stone. She was the highest paid model, and she came in to renegotiate her yearly contract. We all walked into the meeting and she opened by saying "I'm your most popular model so I want my yearly salary doubled". Steve just looked at her and said "We've decided to let you go. We opened a multi-girl site, and both traffic and income for your site is down by 80%". I swear you could physically see the color drain from her face.

Eventually she took a fifty percent pay cut and had to shoot twice as much.

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 18405406)

Your dealing with a model. If she was smart, she wouldn't be a model, she'd be a program owner. When I worked for Lightspeed Cash I handled all of the models, and their stupidity never seized to amaze me.

The best one was Tawnee Stone. She was the highest paid model, and she came in to renegotiate her yearly contract. We all walked into the meeting and she opened by saying "I'm your most popular model so I want my yearly salary doubled". Steve just looked at her and said "We've decided to let you go. We opened a multi-girl site, and both traffic and income for your site is down by 80%". I swear you could physically see the color drain from her face.

Eventually she took a fifty percent pay cut and had to shoot twice as much.

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 18405406)

Your dealing with a model. If she was smart, she wouldn't be a model, she'd be a program owner. When I worked for Lightspeed Cash I handled all of the models, and their stupidity never seized to amaze me.

The best one was Tawnee Stone. She was the highest paid model, and she came in to renegotiate her yearly contract. We all walked into the meeting and she opened by saying "I'm your most popular model so I want my yearly salary doubled". Steve just looked at her and said "We've decided to let you go. We opened a multi-girl site, and both traffic and income for your site is down by 80%". I swear you could physically see the color drain from her face.

Eventually she took a fifty percent pay cut and had to shoot twice as much.

Originally Posted by PornoMonster (Post 18404975)

Welcome to the nightmare.

Originally Posted by NaughtyRob (Post 18682011)

2 year old thread.

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 18405406)

Your dealing with a model. If she was smart, she wouldn't be a model, she'd be a program owner. When I worked for Lightspeed Cash I handled all of the models, and their stupidity never seized to amaze me.

The best one was Tawnee Stone. She was the highest paid model, and she came in to renegotiate her yearly contract. We all walked into the meeting and she opened by saying "I'm your most popular model so I want my yearly salary doubled". Steve just looked at her and said "We've decided to let you go. We opened a multi-girl site, and both traffic and income for your site is down by 80%". I swear you could physically see the color drain from her face.

Eventually she took a fifty percent pay cut and had to shoot twice as much.

Originally Posted by NaughtyRob (Post 18682011)

2 year old thread.

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 18405406)

Your dealing with a model. If she was smart, she wouldn't be a model, she'd be a program owner. When I worked for Lightspeed Cash I handled all of the models, and their stupidity never seized to amaze me.

The best one was Tawnee Stone. She was the highest paid model, and she came in to renegotiate her yearly contract. We all walked into the meeting and she opened by saying "I'm your most popular model so I want my yearly salary doubled". Steve just looked at her and said "We've decided to let you go. We opened a multi-girl site, and both traffic and income for your site is down by 80%". I swear you could physically see the color drain from her face.

Eventually she took a fifty percent pay cut and had to shoot twice as much.

Originally Posted by DWB (Post 18682157)

Awesome. :thumbsup

Bet that didn't turn out the way she thought it would. You know she built up the courage to ask for a double pay raise for at least a week or two. Then struck down within a second. Just awesome.

Originally Posted by chronig (Post 16588000)

You've gone about this completely WRONG. Wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong.

Don't try to start off a solo girl site by 'helping a girl out' - only taking 20% and teaching her how to do shit...

If she's going to do a solo girl site she's likely an idiot and is going to need 90% if not 99% of the work done.

Treat her as a model and leave it at that. If your site ever gets released, and if it ever makes any money, after that miracle, especially in this day and age, then consider letting her take on promotional responsibilities or VERYYYYYYYYY unlikely but possible site maintainence responsibilities if she's actually willing to learn.

You, or an experienced partner, needs to make the site work first, and I'd wish you a lot of luck just trying to get that to happen, don't get ahead of yourself like your site is actually going to make any money, or even get off the ground, and that you can start handing off responsibility to the model :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

This girl sounds like an idiot... and is already giving you bullshit excuses.... even if you had a top notch, extremely responsible model, you'd have to be pretty careful with the site responsibilities you gave her, let alone an idiot flake like this

You have to admire the few girls/models here that work on their own sites... good for them... but I also bet in a lot of cases they face a lot of problems as well

Originally Posted by LushBoobs (Post 18682198)

Solo model sites under a HUB domain that is what we brand MIGHT work, so if the girl leaves you haven't invested years into branding the domain that is on it's way out..

just a thought.
or two.