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Va2k 12-04-2009 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by marketsmart (Post 16615970)
please don't rattle robbie's cage.. i dont feel like weeding through another 50 posts about how he is the greatest affiliate marketer ever... :2 cents:

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:thumbsup 400```

the content guy 12-04-2009 04:17 PM

I don't like to intervene in shit that doesn't concern me but c'mon D, you are one of the respectable old-timers in this biz. Sorry friend but this one is really clear cut. Just pay up and move on, perhaps it'll blow over before Vegas January. Just my two cents.

Dennis69 12-04-2009 04:19 PM

Well after this thread and the stupid shit Dirty D is getting on with and you still push him sales and get fucked you deserve it! Nobody steals just once!

Spudstr 12-04-2009 04:19 PM

Well this got pretty big pretty fast.

Shoehorn! 12-04-2009 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty D (Post 16615468)
Marketing does not = buying the domain name from google

Marketing = bringing us additional traffic and sales.

I have responded plenty... but unlike all of the fake nicks posting and webmasters without a website living in momma's basement, we are busy over here.

Shoehorn should put the same effort into some VALID promotions.

Remember I have sent him lots of emails explaining the issue.
Tried to find additional referral sales since he lied about the traffic source.
Only 3 of his 37 keyword combinations were a problem.
I tried to work on improving his campaign with good keyword combinations.
Also offered $100 PPS for 30 days for VALID sales.

My offer to work with you was rejected.
This means the only sales Shoehorn is interested and capable of sending is my own domain name from google.

My generous offer of $100PPS for 30 days still stands if you want to show us all what a great PPC ninja you are. The only forbidden term is the EXACT spelling of ONLY the DOMAIN NAME.

Someone please read this out loud for Shoehorn so he can understand that this is the way to get paid.

Hmm, where to start.

I don't need to tell you once again that PPC is a legitimate advertising method. Google made its money through PPC advertisers, which means that there are millions of dollars being spent everyday to promote programs via Googles PPC program. Bidding on the name of a site DOES NOT equal stealing joins. And furthermore, you had NOTHING in your terms that touched on PPC marketing. AND EVEN FURTHERMORE, you continued to accept my traffic AND SALES for 3 months without ever saying a word to me. This tells me that you were out to scam me from the beginning. You know where the traffic was coming from enough to remove my payout from the NATS batch, but didn't have the courtesy to tell me that you were going to steal my money.

Fake nicks? I haven't counted any fake nicks here. What I have seen is people who have been in this industry since the beginning saying the same thing as the new guys, I am owed money and you should pay it. Both program owners and affiliates. I see a lot of join dates in this thread that are before both mine and yours. Have you ever seen a thread in all your time here that is so unanimous? EVERYONE that has posted in this thread agrees that you owe an affiliate money and that money should be paid.

Yes, you offered me $100 per signup, but I didn't take it. Why would I? You already owe me nearly $500 (which will be over $500 since I sent you a sale in November) on legitimate sales which you refused to pay, and now you want me to send more? You really can't understand why I didn't take that super offer?

What it comes down to is the fact that you either can't afford to pay me, or you are out to rip off your affiliates, the very people who helped you build your business. The wise thing to do would be to pay me the money that I am owed so we can both go our separate ways. Otherwise I will relentlessly pursue this topic on the boards and at shows. And if you think for one second I am some keyboard warrior without the resources to carry this out for a long time, you've got another thing coming, because this thread is only the beginning.

Of course, you could do the right thing and pay me what you owe me and this will all go away. The choice is yours.

StarkReality 12-04-2009 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty D (Post 16615482)
This shows me that you are aware that your lame marketing is not accepted by others.

Why would Block Buster want you to bid on their name?

Same reason I don't.

Are they offering $100 PPS to reward you like I am?

Understandable when SEM is concerned, but it's you fault to not exclude "brand bidding" in your terms. You don't have it excluded in your terms, you pay the man, it's that easy. Put it in your terms, send out an email to all affiliates informing them of the changes with a grace period, that's the way to do it.

As far as SEO is concerned, it's simply suicide to not allow affiliates to use your site names for domains/subdomains/directories, since everybody in adult allows it. I mean, would you hesitate to pay Freeones.com if they rank #1 for one of your models or TheBestPorn.com when ranking with a review for your site? You shouldn't...

RTP 12-04-2009 04:27 PM

thread of the year

:2 cents:

JFK 12-04-2009 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Spudstr (Post 16615986)
Well this got pretty big pretty fast.

I am Amazed:2 cents:

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 12-04-2009 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty D (Post 16615468)
Someone please read this out loud for Shoehorn so he can understand that this is the way to get paid.

How many times does it need to be read outloud for you?

THERE WAS NO NOTICE THAT COMPETITIVE KEYWORD BIDDING WAS UNACCEPTABLE, WHEN IN MANY CASES IT IS PERFECTLY ACCEPTED BY SPONSORS. NOWHERE IN YOUR ToS WAS THIS OUTLINED AS A VIOLATION. YOU ARE AT FAULT. PAY THE MAN AND UPDATE YOUR TERMS YOU DEGENERATE FAGGOT....

BradM 12-04-2009 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat (Post 16616045)
How many times does it need to be read outloud for you?

THERE WAS NO NOTICE THAT COMPETITIVE KEYWORD BIDDING WAS UNACCEPTABLE, WHEN IN MANY CASES IT IS PERFECTLY ACCEPTED BY SPONSORS. NOWHERE IN YOUR ToS WAS THIS OUTLINED AS A VIOLATION. YOU ARE AT FAULT. PAY THE MAN AND UPDATE YOUR TERMS YOU DEGENERATE FAGGOT....

He won't pay. And BTW all of us live with our mom in her basement according to this program owner who doesn't pay his affiliates.

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 12-04-2009 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by XD2 (Post 16615757)
Anyone set up PPC for the Amazon program yet.

At 3% comission or whatever it is they are offering, I wouldn't even try. I'm sure there's people banking like mad of Amazon and PPC, but fucked if I know what they're doing. :1orglaugh

punkpred 12-04-2009 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by the content guy (Post 16615979)
I don't like to intervene in shit that doesn't concern me but c'mon D, you are one of the respectable old-timers in this biz. Sorry friend but this one is really clear cut. Just pay up and move on, perhaps it'll blow over before Vegas January. Just my two cents.

:thumbsup :2 cents: :thumbsup

Matt 26z 12-04-2009 04:47 PM

If it wasn't prohibited in the TOS, then the affiliate needs to be paid.

I think the most any sposnor can ask for is that their affiliates follow the TOS. But when affiliates do just that and still don't get paid, that raises serious questions of all the other things not in the TOS that you might not pay someone for.

StarkReality 12-04-2009 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by BradM (Post 16616059)
He won't pay. And BTW all of us live with our mom in her basement according to this program owner who doesn't pay his affiliates.

Reminds me on the Amex ads.

Saving money on a lawyer and writing your TOS yourself = +$750

Not paying an affiliate = +$350

Ruining the solid reputation of your established affiliate program in public = Priceless

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 12-04-2009 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by BradM (Post 16616059)
He won't pay. And BTW all of us live with our mom in her basement according to this program owner who doesn't pay his affiliates.

Well, that's pretty clear to see. So I'll just keep on bumping this thread whenever I slide on by, and maybe if everyone keeps on doing so, D's rep will get smashed a little more with potential affiliates and he'll lose more in the end than was ever owed.

Keep in mind folks, the guy has displayed quite clearly that your earnings and payments are subject completely to Dirty D's personal opinion regardless of the outlined ToS. IF YOU ARE PROMOTING HOWIGOTRICH SITES, YOU ARE AT RISK OF NOT GETTING PAID FOR WHATEVER REASON D PULLS OUT OF HIS ASS, AT WHATEVER TIME, WITHOUT NOTICE!...

betabomb 12-04-2009 05:02 PM

I can't believe D's resistance here. I give him more credit than that. Could this be fake drama?

the content guy 12-04-2009 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by betabomb (Post 16616107)
I can't believe D's resistance here. I give him more credit than that. Could this be fake drama?

Same here. Maybe it's an Internext stunt? JFK get those lenses polished, this should be interesting. :)

Shoehorn! 12-04-2009 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by betabomb (Post 16616107)
I can't believe D's resistance here. I give him more credit than that. Could this be fake drama?

I can 100% guarantee you that this is NOT fake drama.

Quagmire 12-04-2009 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by StarkReality (Post 16616081)
Reminds me on the Amex ads.

Saving money on a lawyer and writing your TOS yourself = +$750

Not paying an affiliate = +$350

Ruining the solid reputation of your established affiliate program in public = Priceless

MasterCard :thumbsup

http://www.emailvirals.com/data/medi..._Priceless.jpg

sextoyking 12-04-2009 05:17 PM

Hi Guys and Gals,

Just checking back on this thread today...

I am pretty suprised that D hasn't paid up yet.... I understand pride and taking a stand but this goes well beyond sane...

Alot of proggies over the years didn't pay ppl for one reason or another.

Blocked country, scamming, fraud sales, carded, etc but these are good joins / sales..

All it takes is 1 webmaster too see this and chose not to signup - you already lost so much...

:(

sextoyking 12-04-2009 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Shoehorn! (Post 16616135)
I can 100% guarantee you that this is NOT fake drama.


I didn't think so either...

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 12-04-2009 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Quagmire (Post 16616139)

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ADG

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 12-04-2009 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Quagmire (Post 16616139)

I would personally have to modify that to "10s of millions of Youtube views to drunken hamburger video... Priceless..." :1orglaugh


betabomb 12-04-2009 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Shoehorn! (Post 16616135)
I can 100% guarantee you that this is NOT fake drama.

Well then he's either an idiot or a believer in the old adage that there's no such thing as bad publicity -- :2 cents:

Shoehorn! 12-04-2009 05:26 PM

I've decided to up the ante here, and reward anyone who wants to make other people aware of this. Starting right now, any Axis-Adult.com affiliate, existing or brand new, who puts the button below in their sig and links to PayMeDirtyD.com will be bumped up to $35 PPS for as long as they continue to keep the banner in their sig, or until this matter is resolved.

Put the banner in your sig linking to PayMeDirtyD.com, send me an email with your board name and Axis-Adult.com username and I will bump your PPS payout up to $35.


Phil 12-04-2009 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty D (Post 16615482)
This shows me that you are aware that your lame marketing is not accepted by others.

Why would Block Buster want you to bid on their name?

Same reason I don't.

Are they offering $100 PPS to reward you like I am?

Just pay the guy and add these exact tos to your program. Jesus... over 300 bucks. what a cheap ass.

the content guy 12-04-2009 05:28 PM

O-boy, this is getting ugly...

Shoehorn! 12-04-2009 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by the content guy (Post 16616170)
O-boy, this is getting ugly...

Next step is having shirts made to hand out at shows.

Or Dirty D can do the right thing and pay his affiliates.

sextoyking 12-04-2009 05:30 PM

paymedirtyd.com - wow - your not playing :) LOL

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 12-04-2009 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shoehorn! (Post 16616166)
I've decided to up the ante here, and reward anyone who wants to make other people aware of this. Starting right now, any Axis-Adult.com affiliate, existing or brand new, who puts the button below in their sig and links to PayMeDirtyD.com will be bumped up to $35 PPS for as long as they continue to keep the banner in their sig, or until this matter is resolved.

Put the banner in your sig linking to PayMeDirtyD.com, send me an email with your board name and Axis-Adult.com username and I will bump your PPS payout up to $35.


I live in my parent's basement and I don't send any sales, but I like stirring the shitpot, so I'll fly it for free...

BillyHoe 12-04-2009 05:42 PM

Ouch this is getting worst by the page. Not a smart move D. think of the potential affiliates reading this crap, pay the man and make it stop.

Shoehorn! 12-04-2009 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat (Post 16616188)
I live in my parent's basement and I don't send any sales, but I like stirring the shitpot, so I'll fly it for free...

:thumbsup

beerptrol 12-04-2009 05:46 PM

what I miss! I was in the parents' basement jacking off to Victoria's Secret catalog

gonzojoh 12-04-2009 05:47 PM

Here's a bump.

Pay the guy now.

LeRoy 12-04-2009 05:48 PM

This is getting bad

moeloubani 12-04-2009 05:50 PM

rather be in my parent's basement than jerking off in a movie theater with my grandpa's buddy

zzzzzing

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 12-04-2009 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moeloubani (Post 16616212)
rather be in my parent's basement than jerking off in a movie theater with my grandpa's buddy

zzzzzing

oh snap! :1orglaugh

LeCoq 12-04-2009 06:04 PM

Geeez Dirty D.. it's a battle that can cost you so much more than 350$, especially since you're in the wrong on this issue. If it was not written in your TOS, was he supposed to guess your rules?

Shoehorn! 12-04-2009 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by LeRoy (Post 16616208)
This is getting bad

All I want is to be paid what I am owed.

Hell, at this point I'll take the $477 and he can keep the payout from the sale I sent him in November before I stopped the campaign.

Do the right thing Dirty D.

Mutt 12-04-2009 06:17 PM

wow - i know my parents taught me not to judge a book by its cover but you are every bit the sleazy degenerate scumbag caught jerking off with other old men in a dirty movie theater you appear to be.

did one of his employees really have to come on GFY to ask for donations to bail him out?


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