Originally Posted by Shoehorn! (Post 16618020)

I've wanted to work this out since before I made this post. I am still willing to work this out, I have said that several times. I have made it clear that all I want is the money that I am owed.

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 16617980)

Hey, did you bother to READ the fucking personal attacks on me in this thread? Yes, I responded to them. Yes, I got pissed off. But I never "baited" will. I never "baited" Warren. Why aren't you telling them to stop this shit in your thread? I'm sorry I don't agree with you 100% and want to see this continue like everybody else does. I try to see it from both sides and people jumped all personal at me about it. Why don't YOU tell THEM to stop trolling in your thread. I HAVE discussed the subject at hand in most every thread (with the exception of the ones I am defending myself in from the trolling) Where is Will's contribution to your "topic at hand' in his last trolling post? And when Warren came in out of nowhere pissed off at me...what was the contribution there when he kept demanding that I remember him from a party in L.A.

Fair is fair. I don't appreciate you painting this picture of me just because I think for myself and see that YES Dirty D has reasons for what he did. I didn't say I agreed with him. Just like I don't agree with you buying the fucking adword for his domain name. And that seems to be the reason you keep singling me out. I didn't fall in line with the lynching.

Originally Posted by Alky (Post 16618043)

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/misc.p...osted&t=941614

ya it must be everyone else attacking you... poor thing.. need a tissue?

btw you keep saying you are on middle ground all the while you have taken dirtyd's side from the get go.

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 16618059)

Don't need a tissue. And I absolutely agree with Dirty D on the fact that buying the adword on google for his domain name is not PROMOTING him. And that is what an affiliate is supposed to do.

I also 100% agree with Shoehorn that once Dirty D saw that, he should have terminated Shoehorn instantly and paid him what he had earned.

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 16618030)

Yeah, but you've also called him a "thief" and "scumbag" and made offers to people to fly sigs that attack him.

That is not professional and it's not positive. You really expect him to pay you after all of this? He's probably more interested in payback than paying out. And that's not good for either of you.

Take your own advice. Get positive. You went nuclear on a message board. Impressive. Now pull back a second and talk to Dirty D and see if something can't be worked out. You can always do all the cool paymedirtyd.com's and derogatory sigs on a message board again if he is still set on it. Right?

Originally Posted by Alky (Post 16618060)

so shoehorn would have been better off bidding on that term, and sending it to a different affiliate program?

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 16618073)

No Shoehorn would have been better off actually sending some new traffic that wasn't already searching out Dirty D's site. And if Shoehorn thinks he can convert an adword for D's site to another site...then he should give that a shot.

As an affililiate I've made my money by targetting traffic. If he wants to try and target another crack whore site then so be it. If Dirty D has a trademark on his site, then that won't last long.

Quite frankly, that Adword didn't add up to much anyway. So all the talk of sending that massive traffic somewhere else doesn't really mean much does it? Or am I way off base? If so, then feel free to educate me. And let me know your credentials and expertise in doing so.

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 16618073)

Quite frankly, that Adword didn't add up to much anyway. So all the talk of sending that massive traffic somewhere else doesn't really mean much does it? Or am I way off base? If so, then feel free to educate me. And let me know your credentials and expertise in doing so.

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 16618073)

Quite frankly, that Adword didn't add up to much anyway. So all the talk of sending that massive traffic somewhere else doesn't really mean much does it? Or am I way off base? If so, then feel free to educate me. And let me know your credentials and expertise in doing so.

Originally Posted by Alky (Post 16618076)

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&s...q=f&o q=&aqi=

someone should tell mercedes that infiniti and bmw are bidding on their keyword. those bastards.

Originally Posted by Alky (Post 16618082)

Oh SNAP... no you didn't.... mr 4 million in 7 years.. I'm sure you could do the math and figure that 1 site did 3 sales a month... if he expanding to lets say 1000 sites. btw my credentials are that i passed 4th grade math when i learned how to multiply. kthxbye

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 16618087)

That's a good one!

And that's one that would work too. If I were buying a new car and hadn't made up my mind yet and googled mercedes, I certainly would take a look at BMW too.

And maybe if someone is looking for crack whores...fuck, I don't know shit about that niche so I can't say. Okay, if they were looking for crack whores in general it would definitely be a toss up. Just like looking for a german luxury car would be. But if they specifically were looking for "crackwhore confessions" then I would say it's a roll of the dice to actually PAY for that adword.

Now if you have actual SEO skills and went for it with some actual work involved...then it might be profitable to take that top spot for "crackwhore confessions" and send it to another carefully chosen Crack Whore site.

But that would require skill and work. And it would also require a lot of crack whore research...uggghhhh.

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 16618090)

Huh? 1000 sites? Not sure where that comes into play for "crackwhore confessions" But whatever.

Originally Posted by Shoehorn! (Post 16618084)

This could have been rephrased more positively as "Quite frankly, that Adword didn't add up to much. So all the talk of sending that traffic somewhere else doesn't really mean much. Although a sale is a sale, and right now they are hard to come by, but I see what you're saying."

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 16618090)

Huh? 1000 sites? Not sure where that comes into play for "crackwhore confessions" But whatever.

Originally Posted by Alky (Post 16618091)

right so when i search for bmw and get infiniti ... thats different then if i bid on "crack whore confessions" and get a black vagina finder ad?

are you serious?

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 16618095)

Sales are hard to come by...for us affiliates. I promote a lot of sites. And the ratios are horrendous. Piracy and the economy have destroyed it. But "type ins" for paysites are doing quite well for any unique and creative site that isn't over saturated on tubes and torrents. Which is why Dirty D got pissed about the adword and acted out of anger.

Originally Posted by Shoehorn! (Post 16618100)

He means that while I was only sending a few sales a month to Dirty D, its likely I am running campaigns for several other sites. Those few sales a month might not be a lot to one program, but spread that across lots of programs and it adds up.

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 16618105)

Didn't say that. You're not understanding what I said. I said if you search for crack whores...then it's a toss up. If a surfer searches for the term "crackwhore confessions" then he is searching for a BRANDED website in specificity. Yes, there is a small chance he would buy another site. Because that kind of thing would actually bring NEW eyes to BVF's site. But it does NOT bring new eyes to Dirty D's site. And if that isn't clear to you then I don't know what else to say.

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 16618105)

Didn't say that. You're not understanding what I said. I said if you search for crack whores...then it's a toss up. If a surfer searches for the term "crackwhore confessions" then he is searching for a BRANDED website in specificity. Yes, there is a small chance he would buy another site. Because that kind of thing would actually bring NEW eyes to BVF's site. But it does NOT bring new eyes to Dirty D's site. And if that isn't clear to you then I don't know what else to say.

Originally Posted by Shoehorn! (Post 16618109)

This is true, but a typein and searching for the site in Google are two entirely separate things.

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 16618112)

Oh, still don't get what that had to do with what we were talking about. We were discussing this topic. Not how many adword campaigns you pay for. Sorry for the confusion.

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 16618073)

Quite frankly, that Adword didn't add up to much anyway. So all the talk of sending that massive traffic somewhere else doesn't really mean much does it? Or am I way off base? If so, then feel free to educate me. And let me know your credentials and expertise in doing so.

Originally Posted by Shoehorn! (Post 16618119)

People might only be aware of crackwhoreconfessions, but not BVF. If they search for "crackwhore confessions" looking for a crackwhore site, and see the ad for BVF, they might check it out, realize its something they've never seen before, and buy a membership.

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 16618105)

But it does NOT bring new eyes to Dirty D's site. And if that isn't clear to you then I don't know what else to say.

Originally Posted by Alky (Post 16618123)

Remember?

Originally Posted by sextoyking (Post 16617796)

Shutup Boy - all you do is talk shit and play stupid..... Grown the fuck up...

It seems like alot of your posts have the word "faggot" in them.. Are you in the closet and have some kind of issue?

Do you have a problem with Gay ppl?

Wise up boy - this is a business, not a playground...

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 16618132)

That would definitely be the "new eyes" on a site. And BVF would be happy to get that. But at the same time you would probably profit far more on an adword for Crackwhore porn or crackwhore sex than you would targeting crackwhore confessions to make sales for black vagina finder.

But it's your money. If you think the adword for crackwhore confessions sending to BVF would be worth the money then give it a shot.

Originally Posted by Shoehorn! (Post 16618145)

The ads are waiting on approval as I type this. I am going to send the same traffic to BVF and see how it does. It might even do better, have you read some of what BVF says on that site, its fucking hilarious. I go there every few months just to read what he has to say.

Originally Posted by Deej (Post 16618133)

most likely if thats the site they wanted to hit they would type it in the fucking addey bar...

then you come back and say well a lot of surfers mistake their google bar for the addey bar... well you can prove that just as much as knowing foir sure that the surfer wouldnt have gone through the paid ad over the organic...

Originally Posted by Shoehorn! (Post 16618145)

The ads are waiting on approval as I type this. I am going to send the same traffic to BVF and see how it does. It might even do better, have you read some of what BVF says on that site, its fucking hilarious. I go there every few months just to read what he has to say.

Originally Posted by Carmine Raguso (Post 16618152)

Where is the money Chio owes people?

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 16618153)

That's not what I said either. I can prove that surfers type in names into Google INSTEAD of their address bar by my referring URL's. And so can most program owners.

And I never said they "mistake" it. They don't. They just prefer it. Same phenomenom as a person using the "guide" on their cable box to go to a channel instead of just going to the channel. I don't know why they do that. I'm like you, I type in the address bar. And when I know the t.v. channel I want I just go there. But I do see the trends of what other people do and I use them to my advantage.

Originally Posted by Deej (Post 16618158)

What does that have to do anything with a friend of Chio's?

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 16618157)

Yes, BVF has a great site. So does Dirty D. If it were me, I'd be buying black vagina finder as an adword. You would definitely do better than the black tube site that is currently doing it. But I suppose it's worth a shot using "crackwhore confessions"

Originally Posted by Deej (Post 16618158)

What does that have to do anything with a friend of Chio's?

Originally Posted by Carmine Raguso (Post 16618165)

Dood, this guy has spent $750 (guess?) in time wasted on this board about someone that owes him $350 when his best buddy owes THOUSANDS! THOUSANDS! He has no problem snuffing that one to the curb, but gets his thong in a bunch over $350.

Originally Posted by Deej (Post 16618177)

Please give me a connection besides them getting drunk together and having fun...

Need i mention the numerous shows a year where people that get drunk with their competition and enemies?

youre bad at this shit stirring thing....

Originally Posted by Deej (Post 16618177)

Please give me a connection besides them getting drunk together and having fun...

Need i mention the numerous shows a year where people that get drunk with their competition and enemies?

youre bad at this shit stirring thing....

Originally Posted by Carmine Raguso (Post 16618180)

Go back to beer pong, faggetti :2 cents:

Originally Posted by Shoehorn! (Post 16618183)

Just ignore him man, hes only trying to start an argument and take the thread off track.

Originally Posted by Deej (Post 16618186)

Go back to being a horrible troll... cause your attempts at stirring shit are horrendous...

Franck... Dark Jedi... both very good at it...

You suck...