Often this is a sign of a program tanking. When it comes to these kind of threads, where there is smoke there is fire. learn not to get burned.

This thread is obvious, if it isn't criminal (like stolen card or fake trials) it must be in the TOS or it is fair game.

You will get ripped of in the business. You just try to make it as little as loss as possible and never put all you eggs in one basket. Don't only do adult either!

Buy your own domains and use them to move traffic this way you can change hundreds of links on hundreds of sites with one flip of the switch.

My conversions used to be 1:32 to give you an idea of how this business changed.

You will also see programs treat some of their vocal affiliates great while the shave and rip off the little guy. If a few people are very vocal about a program and lots of little guys complain, avoid them.

Buying you drinks and lap dances at a trade show does not a good sponsor make. Always remember that!

Lastly. Selling hard goods (adult toys) is far more lucrative in regards to programs going under or ripping you off - as long as you go with a big name company and has been around for a VERY long time. They almost never go under! :2 cents:

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What a shame...

If I'm not wrong this is the second program this year losing huge reputation because of not paying an affiliate who deserve the money. [last was curiouscash?]

19?... I remember when 8 seemed much.

about to remove his adverts today.

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is that up to to the minute ?:winkwink:

xenigo you monkey tons of programs allow this, im pushing many offers now and im doing this :)

also that youtube video is the funniest shit

also dirty donkey all publicity IS NOT good publicity, when you get off the coke you'll see you have LOST more than $400 from this thread? so was it worth it?

If it was in your TOS you could shit can them all you want. Since it is a widely accepted method of advertising, with you, Dirty D, Robbie and a few others in the minority, you have to actually spell this out in your TOS and not make up the shit as you go.

One of you who do not allow YOUR affiliates to do this please answer this for me:

What happens when someone bids on your keywords and sends it to your competitor ?

another retarded way of thinking program pops up and added to the do not promote list. Anyone else think backwards like this ?

You are not even t alking about trade marks here or as the other poster said " cyber squatting"...

It's google ppc bidding on keyword phrases like " crachwhore confessions". If it was trademarked it would be a little different and I would understand them PUTTING IT IN THEIR TOS and telling people not to do it. Because then they could try to stop everyone from doing it, not just their affiliates.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh no program will allow this? what rock you crawled out from under? There has already been a lot more programs in this thread that say they allow this than ones that don't. Most do allow this.


I hope everyone takes notice of how you run your program and how you think. You read what happened here and you feel shoehorn (the affiliate) committed fraud, and Dirty D did nothing wrong. :upsidedow

What a stupid post you made.



ITS NOT YOUR TRAFFIC, IT'S GOOGLE'S TRAFFIC AND THEY SELL IT. IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT THEN ASK GOOGLE NOT TO LIST YOUR SHIT ON THEIR SITE.

SO YOU THINK IT'S YOUR TRAFFIC. WHAT HAPPENS WHEN SOMEONE ELSE BIDS ON "YOURTRAFFIC" AND SENDS IT TO YOUR COMPETITOR, IS IT YOUR TRAFFIC THEN???? WHAT DO YOU DO THEN YOU MAKE NOTHING!!!

will76 is man born in the wrong time. she should have been born during the crusades.

just can't stand theft. been scammed a couple times, I know what it feels like and every time I see someone else doing it makes me remember. The arrogrance of the people scamming/stealing is the icing on the cake.

The only thing that gets my goat and makes me want to post are issues like this.

where the fuck is my buck?

Hey Shoehorn,
Why dont you just sue him in small claims court?. He wont show up, You get a judgment. When he refuses to pay, you get a lien against his bank accounts....

Since this is across state lines, just sue him in Federal Court. The lawyers fee's he will have to pay will be 10x what he owes you.

Its not the money now, its the principal.

And here is a bump since this has fallen down the page...

So very clueless. At least people know to stay away from your program. I know I will. :2 cents:

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Ditry D, you're an idiot. Pay the man.

February sounds like a possibility to come on up there :thumbsup

I agree..that was one funny video. I will buy the book now.

Bump for bucks owed

OMFG.. That video is too good!! Good laugh :)

what a fucking maggot this guy is

Not once has any of these guys answered the question above.

They seem to think if they can stop "THEIR" affiliates from doing it, it wont happen. When in reality they should be thankfull their affiliates are paying out of their own pocket to make sure that traffic goes to their program and not their competitors.

Oh, you be quiet with your sense and logic. If the traffic didn't come to them, it doesn't exist.

There is no spoon.
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Do you think its right that he allowed me to continue to send traffic and joins long after deciding not to pay me, without notifying me? It would be one thing if he contacted me and told me to stop, but he removed my payout from the batch in NATS and never contacted me.

He continued to accept my traffic and joins without saying anything to me, without suspending my affiliate account and without paying me. That is the issue.

I also find it odd that a few programs (including Twistys, one of the bigger programs out there) have contacted me about getting a PPC campaign going for them.

Since by your own admission all this publicity is so great for you, and surely you must be making more money because of it, how about paying me what you owe me?

Unfortunately for me a small claims suit would have to be filed in Florida. However tomorrow I am going to call some collection agencies down there and see what they say can be done for me to recover at least some of the money he owes me. I am not sure about the Federal thing, I don't know if they would even hear it over such a small amount of money, but I will find out tomorrow.

And thanks for the bump. :)

Broke, delusional and self destructive. Is this guy on cocaine?

God no kidding, what a fucking moron. You would think he would of went and did some Google searches for site names before coming here and sounding so clueless :error

I just still can't believe these guys think it is "their" traffic. Like others have said, he could have just has easily sent the PPC traffic to a competitor. Worse conversion rate then sending it to the exact site? Yeah, I am sure it would be.. but what does that have to do with anything? It is still his traffic, its just not going to your program anymore :error

Robbie and the other defenders have still yet to answer the question about review site traffic. In their logic, 90% of review site traffic already belongs to the site owners :1orglaugh and they are just robbing sales that were already theirs.

I'd rather have a worse conversion ratio and get paid, than have a good ratio and not get paid. :)

Great point :thumbsup

is this one of those reverse posts where you are trying to sabotoge the program you advertise ?

Wy on earth would you even say that considering the avalanche of people who feel the opposite way.

Kudos on having the balls to say how you feel i suppose but way to shoot yourself in the foot at the same time.

So true. My guess is he is flat broke and can't pay.

how is your lobotomy mr dirty?

I wonder if he thinks it is acceptable that Dirty D kept accepting my traffic and joins with no intention of paying me?

pay the man

pay up you " dirty old jerking off in movie theater with old men" man

and this thread keeps going and going

You can't talk sense to someone who drives a Honda Civic with a vanity plate that reads "ADULT".

That's what this idiot's plate reads.

19 Pages and you still haven't been paid. I hope you're posting this on other boards as well.

JUDGE: Bailiff, what is the next case?

BAILIFF: Shoehorn vs Dirty D, involving PPC with no TOS.

JUDGE: FTW? What brings you here Mr...um, Shoehorn?

SHOEHORN: One of the lawyers on Go Fuck Yourself suggested I could recover the money Dirty D refuses to pay me in small claims court.

JUDGE: Did you just tell me to Go Fuck Myself?!? I hereby find you in contempt of court, and fine you $470.

What does the defendant have to say for himself?

DIRTY D: Affiliates may not use the term Crackwhore Confessions in PPC campaigns to send sells to my site which depicts desperate drug addicted prostitutes being humiliated and degraded. I should be the only one allowed to make money off of this form of exploitation.

JUDGE: Is that in your Terms of Service?

DIRTY D: Well, no, but it's my program, so I can impose arbitrary rules whenever I want to.

JUDGE: That's not the way it works in my courthouse. Wait a minute, you look familiar, do you have any priors?

DIRTY D: I was arrested a few times for oral sex and jerking off at an adult theater, but I can explain - that was...er, um..."research".

JUDGE: I hereby fine you $470. Bailiff, get these filthy scum out of my courtroom, NOW!!!

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The only way to keep these asshat sponsors from fucking webmasters is to keep calling them out.

LOLz ADG.

Do I win $477 for the 1000th post in this thread?

Yes you get to pick $477 monopoly money or $477 How I got Rich money. I'd take the monopoly money as its the only one that exists.

haahahaha

Had enough of this. Shoeboy, there is one thing you can do that will get you paid the 470 right away. I'll give you a hint - it's 100 percent legal but very dirty.