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evilmaster 12-09-2009 11:29 AM

november was much better :(

Horny Joe 12-09-2009 12:12 PM

Looks to be a little bit over average, if it stays like this.... So - I guess that is ok.

VikingMan 12-09-2009 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 16627755)
Starting to get more complaints from potential customers saying their cards are being declined for 'high risk' site(s). I referred to the processors, and they said the customers are not from high risk countries, but their banks are declining them at the point of sale.

I have heard this now from Verotel, CCB, and Zombaio.

So despite people's worries about tubes and the endless debates on theft. The industry is being strangled at the point of sale by the banks denying would be customers from signing up.

Those emails and complaints are becoming more common. Both on rebills, and new sign ups. That is becoming a bigger concern, and is a major turd in the punch bowl.

:2 cents:

Yeah and you know that for every customer who emails you there are 10 or 20 more who just said "fuck it" and moved on.:(

Matyko 12-09-2009 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 16627755)
Starting to get more complaints from potential customers saying their cards are being declined for 'high risk' site(s). I referred to the processors, and they said the customers are not from high risk countries, but their banks are declining them at the point of sale.

I have heard this now from Verotel, CCB, and Zombaio.

So despite people's worries about tubes and the endless debates on theft. The industry is being strangled at the point of sale by the banks denying would be customers from signing up.

Those emails and complaints are becoming more common. Both on rebills, and new sign ups. That is becoming a bigger concern, and is a major turd in the punch bowl.

:2 cents:

You mean this for last days or last 12-24 hours?
Because since 1st Dec my sales are fucking UP, but 12-24 hours ago everything stopped... unbelievable...

Matyko 12-09-2009 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ******* (Post 16630076)
Yeah and you know that for every customer who emails you there are 10 or 20 more who just said "fuck it" and moved on.:(

:2 cents: :2 cents: :2 cents:

MasterBlow 12-09-2009 01:42 PM

same as november

ez12 12-09-2009 01:57 PM

Traditionally December is my best month of the year, but so far its not going so good. I had a major sales month in November (best month in 5 years), so I was hoping this trend would go on in December, but so far the sales are slow and rebills are low.. C'mon!

Barefootsies 12-09-2009 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pompousjohn (Post 16629866)
I agree, these arbitrary credit card declines are much worse than tubes. For the first week of December it was terrible, this week is looking better.

Zombaio keeps track of all the declines in their pie graph. That number, "unable to rebill" has been climbing the past couple of months and is in the double digits now.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ******* (Post 16630076)
Yeah and you know that for every customer who emails you there are 10 or 20 more who just said "fuck it" and moved on.:(

Correct.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matyko (Post 16630152)
You mean this for last days or last 12-24 hours?
Because since 1st Dec my sales are fucking UP, but 12-24 hours ago everything stopped... unbelievable...

Oh no. I have seen it growing over the past few months. However, it is starting to become critical on the reports, as well as people are starting to email me more frequently with these complaints.

Again, with Zombaio, I can actually SEE a report of all the people who are declined, and the reason for the decline. However, that is not to say Zombaio is perfect. Just a nice feature in their admin.

Their post back script is yet another story in it's self. That "password issues" is another thing I am seeing more of on the reasons for canceling memberships.
:disgust

hawkadu 12-11-2009 10:06 AM

Sales are almost dead for me since last two days. Before that, they were average. This week is looking like shit.

andrej_NDC 12-11-2009 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 16630666)
Zombaio

Why you rely only on zombaio is beyond me. You can easily use ccbill, epoch, segpay and zombaio at the same time just with the help of the ccbill cascade system. Its like found money on the street, you will make more with no extra effort(except the setting up).

Barefootsies 12-11-2009 12:16 PM

Fiddy, my processor is better than yours, replies.

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrej_NDC (Post 16636647)
Why you rely only on zombaio is beyond me. You can easily use ccbill, epoch, segpay and zombaio at the same time just with the help of the ccbill cascade system. Its like found money on the street, you will make more with no extra effort(except the setting up).

I use Verotel, and CCB as well.

Zombaio is only running on my newer, 2009, sites chief. As I have stated in multiple threads on this subject. No processor is perfect, that includes CCB. However, I'll pass on your EPOCH and SEGPAY recommendations. Thanks.

andrej_NDC 12-11-2009 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 16636738)
Fiddy, my processor is better than yours, replies.



I use Verotel, and CCB as well.

Zombaio is only running on my newer, 2009, sites chief. As I have stated in multiple threads on this subject. No processor is perfect, that includes CCB. However, I'll pass on your EPOCH and SEGPAY recommendations. Thanks.

Go with segpay, they are good with catching what ccbill declines.

Barefootsies 12-11-2009 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrej_NDC (Post 16637024)
Go with segpay, they are good with catching what ccbill declines.

Good info.

The main problem I am seeing right now, across Zombaio and CCB, is REBILL declines. Both are getting hammered, and into the double digits in 'unable to rebill' or declines.

New customers are having problems as well, not being allows to sign up for adult pay sites.

:mad:

LoveSandra 12-12-2009 09:19 AM

the sales are fucked up

Naechy 12-12-2009 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoveSandra (Post 16639329)
the sales are fucked up

Totaly fucked :disgust

fatfoo 12-12-2009 01:13 PM

My sales of text writings have been great.

VladS 12-12-2009 05:55 PM

So far, this is one of the worst months ever for me as in new sales, traffic is steady though.

hawkadu 12-16-2009 11:19 PM

Sales are getting more slower as the Christmas is nearing....

Fabien 12-17-2009 07:21 AM

Yep, as always but it's the worst days since 97 for me. I knew it was coming but i didn't want to :Oh crap

It will be like this til mid-january (maybe more) the thing is, the shit was already hitting the fan for many of us.:upsidedow Like we needed this.:mad:

gandalfuy 12-17-2009 09:19 AM

We are doing great cause we launched a new site!

cheers *

ganjaman 12-17-2009 09:20 AM

what means december?

hawkadu 12-18-2009 11:43 PM

ccbill sales were good today.....

Davy 12-19-2009 03:52 AM

December ALWAYS is the best month of the year for me. Woot!

Nicky 12-19-2009 06:11 AM

Looks to be worse then sept/Oct/Nov hope It's just temporary.

18teens 12-19-2009 07:49 AM

Totally fucked up so far.

hawkadu 12-19-2009 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 18teens (Post 16663613)
Totally fucked up so far.

True. Today is looking totally bleak here as well

PSSuperstars 12-19-2009 09:03 AM

Per minute stuff like webcam and phone sex are HUGE this time of year..
Your rich, no social skill, work all the time, CEO types are lonely...

They begin to realize they've isolated themselves from their families.. and get REALLY, REALLY depressed...

It's not uncommon to have guys spend 2k-5k this month on girls who know what they're doing... and how to be a good "ear"....

AaliyahLove 12-20-2009 12:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PSSuperstars (Post 16663739)
Per minute stuff like webcam and phone sex are HUGE this time of year..
Your rich, no social skill, work all the time, CEO types are lonely...

They begin to realize they've isolated themselves from their families.. and get REALLY, REALLY depressed...

It's not uncommon to have guys spend 2k-5k this month on girls who know what they're doing... and how to be a good "ear"....

you are so on point December is my best month for webcaming EVERY YEAR like clockwork!:)

Fabien 12-20-2009 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PSSuperstars (Post 16663739)
Per minute stuff like webcam and phone sex are HUGE this time of year..
Your rich, no social skill, work all the time, CEO types are lonely...

They begin to realize they've isolated themselves from their families.. and get REALLY, REALLY depressed...

It's not uncommon to have guys spend 2k-5k this month on girls who know what they're doing... and how to be a good "ear"....


Funny that i came up and saw this reply as i was thinking about that like 5 minutes ago while checking all my cam stuff. Indeed but it's hard to find one ! This year i got a guy that bought over 5000$ of cam shows :helpme so far. I know some of you will say that some people can spend way more but it's the first time that it happens (for me)

Cam stuff is so hard to convert. It's like 1:15000 or worst but when you get a good customer, it's worth it.


I wish that there was a cam sponsor doing extreme stuff. I wonder how it would pull $$? Hard bdsm, piss and the brown stuff hehehehehe, abdl, humiliation name it ! Something really kinky.

If you know about a sponsor that can offer models willing to do this, give me your refcode and i will signup using it for sure.

Badmaash 12-20-2009 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fabien (Post 16665998)
Funny that i came up and saw this reply as i was thinking about that like 5 minutes ago while checking all my cam stuff. Indeed but it's hard to find one ! This year i got a guy that bought over 5000$ of cam shows :helpme so far. I know some of you will say that some people can spend way more but it's the first time that it happens (for me)

Cam stuff is so hard to convert. It's like 1:15000 or worst but when you get a good customer, it's worth it.


I wish that there was a cam sponsor doing extreme stuff. I wonder how it would pull $$? Hard bdsm, piss and the brown stuff hehehehehe, abdl, humiliation name it ! Something really kinky.

If you know about a sponsor that can offer models willing to do this, give me your refcode and i will signup using it for sure.

Promote hardcore BDSM sex, dominatrix, submissive live sex, money humiliation, slavery, gagging, sub owmership, demdom,etc etc by clicking to sign up here for a cam sponsor thaat does all this kink!

martinsc 12-20-2009 09:27 AM

so far so good...

Niktamer 12-20-2009 10:00 AM

so far about 10k more than november + all the promos sales

Thanks to ND , people traffic and PIC they keep their convertion ratio strong

MRock 12-20-2009 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 16627755)
The industry is being strangled at the point of sale by the banks denying would be customers from signing up.

Those emails and complaints are becoming more common. Both on rebills, and new sign ups. That is becoming a bigger concern, and is a major turd in the punch bowl.

Maybe I just noticed it this month, but ccbill is now showing bank abbriviations on the declines to "point the finger", so to speak.

example1 - "declined due to BE-"
example2 - "declined due to Card Declined at Pre-Auth SC.."


Or is this just a coded decline reason?

asianseekerz 12-20-2009 10:56 AM

not really good its only break even!!!

SomeCreep 12-20-2009 12:42 PM

Like a dog without a bone, an actor out on lone.

V_RocKs 10-19-2010 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doctor Feelgood (Post 16627537)
like i said:

well thats interesting, right around christmas theres a upward spike for porn but downward spike for jobs. i wonder why


http://i.imgur.com/cvfyA.png

Interesting...

We outsource our adult webmaster work to India so they are the only ones getting jobs in December.


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