The summary is what they are giving out there. This has nothing to do with the environment and everything to do with breaking down society and establishing a World communistic government. When you figure out how taxing financial transactions fixes the environment let me know. What it does do is fix their little problem of taxing the internet as us "conspiracy theorists" have said they wanted all along. Nearly every "conspiracy theory" is encompassed within this treaty.

What I predict is going to happen is Obama will sign this and the American people and other developed countries will not go along with it and it will give the "World Government" a reason to come in and "make" people accept it.

I did not see a part that talked about taxing financial transactions or how that doing any of that related to money or taxing, was going to help the environment. The document simply isn't about that.

The document gives up no powers, it doesn't assume any control or authority that I could find, it's a guideline or an agreement for those that choose to be part of it. Once you are, you aren't forced... but access to things like the World Bank opens up, which we already have access to.

Again, it has some parts I don't really like... but they aren't related to a power grab that they don't already have, more control, world gov, taxing, or taking any part of your life style taken away.

It's in the new draft.. It's the same shit they pull with us in Congress. They just ramble on in Congress and no one really sees the bill until just before it's voted on. Lord Monckton went in a demanded the treaty. At first they didn't want to give it to him but he insisted. They gave him a large stack of papers and he found it buried in there.

So why doesn't he scan it and post in online?

hmm a deja vu,
http://www.hugeboobsindex.com/banner02_160x120.gif
ah much better :)

I guess we will have to wait and see... it isn't like we can do anything to stop it.

He just broke the news. I'm sure we'll be seeing it before long. He's the one who leaked the draft above.

But you have been talking about this document for months. Yet we never seem to see the entire thing. I understand this is supposedly a newer version, but did we ever get a full version of the old one or did we just get him saying what was in it?

Only 51% of the countries have to vote it in for it to become "law." Once it's a deal it takes 100% of the countries to agree to let you out of it.

So let's say all of the developing countries sign on because they have dollar signs in their eyes. America, China, India, etc don't go along. The IMF and World Bank uses their new found World control to turn the developing nations on the developed nations.

Do you not see the document above? Goddamn get a clue. Once again. They are pulling the same shit they pull with Congress. You only get drafts of the bill. But after it's voted on the 'devil in the details" always comes out. Here we only get drafts of the treaty. We wouldn't even have these if it weren't for people like Lord Monckton. They don't want us to see it...

So as I go back through the thread it looks like you posted a link to a summery of the treaty then a link to something that looks like it is probably the full thing.

I'll be honest with you I'm not going to read 181 pages of something that is written in such mumbo jumbo that it can be interpreted 10 different ways.

You say the bill will create a one world government. I feel what they mean is that there will be a united front when confronting these problems. You say it will destroy our country by giving our wealth to other countries, from what I understand it will make available resources to underdeveloped countries that need them.

I still say no treaty will be signed in Copenhagen, but maybe it will.

In the end you think I'm an idiot for not taking you seriously and I think you have been off your meds too long. I should have known better than to post in your thread.

My final statement will be this.

You say Lord Monckton demanded the treaty and at first they didn't want to give it to him, but eventually relented and gave him a huge stack of papers. He went through them and discovered the truth.

Why would they do that? Why give him the papers at all? How can this guy get something that Congress can't? If this is one the culmination of 100's of years of work and finally "they" are going to establish the one world government they have been working towards all this time why relent to one guy and give him the one thing that could expose them to the world? Why not deny him, and then just have him disappear?

Lord Monckton isn't in the US for one. The US congress is busy working on their own scams. They aren't taking up this issue right now. Obama will go there and sign the treaty then it will come to Congress. It won't get ratified here because by then it will be a huge fiasco.

Get it fucking straight. I don't take meds nor have I ever needed to. You are the person who is going to need meds real soon after you figure out how stupid your ass is for ignoring the warnings.

everyone can start class action law suits against the rest of the country! Lets get started

Copenhagen climate summit in disarray after 'Danish text' leak

Developing countries react furiously to leaked draft agreement that would hand more power to rich nations, sideline the UN's negotiating role and abandon the Kyoto protocol

The UN Copenhagen climate talks are in disarray today after developing countries reacted furiously to leaked documents that show world leaders will next week be asked to sign an agreement that hands more power to rich countries and sidelines the UN's role in all future climate change negotiations.

The document is also being interpreted by developing countries as setting unequal limits on per capita carbon emissions for developed and developing countries in 2050; meaning that people in rich countries would be permitted to emit nearly twice as much under the proposals.

The so-called Danish text, a secret draft agreement worked on by a group of individuals known as "the circle of commitment" – but understood to include the UK, US and Denmark – has only been shown to a handful of countries since it was finalised this week.

The agreement, leaked to the Guardian, is a departure from the Kyoto protocol's principle that rich nations, which have emitted the bulk of the CO2, should take on firm and binding commitments to reduce greenhouse gases, while poorer nations were not compelled to act. The draft hands effective control of climate change finance to the World Bank; would abandon the Kyoto protocol – the only legally binding treaty that the world has on emissions reductions; and would make any money to help poor countries adapt to climate change dependent on them taking a range of actions.

The document was described last night by one senior diplomat as "a very dangerous document for developing countries. It is a fundamental reworking of the UN balance of obligations. It is to be superimposed without discussion on the talks".

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environmen...ay-danish-text

Climategate: Barack Obama's rule by EPA decree is a coup d'etat against Congress, made in Britain

Who needs tanks on the lawn when you have the Environmental Protection Agency? Barack Obama’s use of the EPA to pressurise the Senate to pass his climate change Nuremberg Decrees shows his dictatorial mentality. He wants to override Congress, which is hostile to his climate gobbledegook because it is representative of the American electorate, and sideline the nation’s elected Senators by ruling by decree, courtesy of the EPA. This is a coup d’état.

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/ge...de-in-britain/

i've read it.

times "world governance" is mentioned = 0

times "home inspection(s)" is mentioned = 0

getting kicked out of you own home for not doing as they say is mentioned = 0



oh, and stickygreen is a fucking idiot.

What do you call a centralized body controlling every aspect of of lifeon Earth? A world government.

What does "green police" coming into your home for inspections which you pay for.. "home inspections"

What do you think is going to happen when you don;t meet said inspection (inspection that you pay for out of pocket) requirements? You'll be kicked out of your home. Don't think it can happen? Don't pay your property taxes for a year. Hell there's a auction coming up in my county on the 12th. Some peoples property is being auctioned for a few hundred bucks owed in taxes.


You have to read the UN's other documents such as this one. But there are many others. You don't own anything. You are a slave. You are just a tenant on the property you think you own. FACT. (Thats what these people believe.)

"Land, because of its unique nature and the crucial role it plays in human settlements, cannot be treated as an ordinary asset, controlled by individuals and subject to the pressures and inefficiencies of the market.

Private land ownership is also a principal instrument of accumulation and concentration of wealth and therefore contributes to social injustice; if unchecked, it may become a major obstacle in the planning and implementation of development schemes. Social justice, urban renewal and development, the provision of decent dwellings and healthy conditions for the people can only be achieved if land is used in the interests of society as a whole."

http://www.un-documents.net/vp-d.htm

i read the official "framework convention on climate change change" document.

no mention of *green police" doing inspections of my home.

no world governance, nothing similar to what you are mentioning in this thread,

i suspect you did not read the document.

So let's talk a little bit about the heroic Lord Monckton.

This is a guy who has said he would, "leave the European Union, close down 90 per cent of government services and shift power away from the atheistic, humanistic government and into the hands of families and individuals."

That is a nice idea, albeit not a realistic one in the modern world. And what it leads to is Socialism in a very pure form. Right now the Wealthy run the government. You could say the haves are leading the have-nots. When you take power away from the haves and give it to the have-nots they will want more for themselves and they will want more equality. That eventually leads to them either forming a socialistic government or the haves eventually convince the have-nots to put them back in power and we end up back in the same place we started.

So he wants people to be able to govern themselves which is a nice idea, but he also advocates forced blood testing for everyone to see if they have AIDS and if you do have AIDS you are put in quarantine. So he is against the so called Climate Police coming to your house and telling you how to live, but he is all for forcing you to get blood tested and then locking you away if you have AIDS.

It sounds to me like this guy is a little bit of a crackpot.

Isn't it possible that this guy told you what was in the document, then you read it and influenced by his suggestion came to the same conclusion?

Of course that could never be the case.

As far as Lord Monckton I don't agree with everything he says or anyone else for that matter. I look at the ENTIRE picture from many sources. The only place they are leading you/us to is World War, famine, death and destruction. They'll go in their little underground bunkers and let us all kill each other. They don't give a flying fuck about you or me.

You mention more for the average person? Isn't that what this is suppose to be what this all about? lmao

Or maybe it is just a centralized body that helps control the distribution of assets, progress and overall operation of these climate/environmental controls they are trying to get started.

Since I am just a dumb ass can you please point to the exact part in that document that talks about home inspections and Climate Police?

FACT: a centralized governing body is needed if we are to take care of the globe and that's why it will never happen.

Yeah, but (and maybe I have it wrong here) don't you rail against socialism?

And you didn't answer my previous question. If this group has spend hundreds of years systematically and methodically planning to control the entire world and this is the their big jump off point, why do they just hand the plan over to a guy who asks for it?

All that shit is localized hence the original thread. The EPA is the "green police" for the US and this is their agenda.

First, that document was created in 1976.... with it being active so long can you find reference to its abuse? With "countries are undergoing a process of profound social transformation" 33 years ago, we would think some abuse of this would have taken place at massive scales.

And American has one of those... I can't recall the name but they can already take your land/home for social development, legally, by force if needed.

Eminent domain. they haven't taken over yet using it though, prolly part of the several hundred year long nwo/rothchilds/bilderberg plan to take over though, just not quite yet.

the moment is not right.

Thanks...

They also buy your land at value and they don't stop you from buying more land, just different land.

Correct they want to force everyone into cities and make more and more areas un-inhabited. Easier to control people as they are in a centralized area.

“We must make this an insecure and inhospitable place for capitalists and their projects. We must reclaim the roads and plowed land, halt dam construction, tear down existing dams, free shackled rivers and return to wilderness millions of acres of presently settled land.”
- David Foreman, co-founder of Earth First!

“My three main goals would be to reduce human population to about 100 million worldwide, destroy the industrial infrastructure and see wilderness, with it’s full complement of species, returning throughout the world.”
-Dave Foreman, co-founder of Earth First!

“Current lifestyles and consumption patterns of the affluent middle class - involving high meat intake,
use of fossil fuels, appliances, air-conditioning, and suburban housing - are not sustainable.”
- Maurice Strong, Rio Earth Summit

“All these dangers are caused by human intervention and it is only through changed attitudes and behaviour that they can be overcome. The real enemy, then, is humanity itself.”
- Club of Rome, The First Global Revolution

Please point to the exact location in that document where it explains how they will come do inspections at your home to ensure you are following their rules.

The Lawnmower Men

In a huge document released last Friday, the EPA lays out the thousands of carbon controls with which they'd like to shackle the whole economy. Central planning is too artful a term for the EPA's nanomanagement. Thankfully none of it has the force of law -- yet. However, the Bush Administration has done a public service by opening this window on new-wave green thinking like Mr. Gore's, and previewing what Democrats have in mind for next year.

The mess began in 2007, when the Supreme Court ruled 5-4 in Mass. v. EPA that greenhouse gases are "air pollutants" under current environmental laws, despite the fact that the laws were written decades before the climate-change panic. The EPA was ordered to regulate if it decides that carbon emissions are a danger to the public. The 588-page "advance notice of proposed rulemaking" lays out how the EPA would like it to work in practice.


http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121642309337666613.html

http://www.epa.gov/climatechange/anpr.html

these articles do not lend credence to your nwo world government takeover, in fact, they dispel it.

No they don't. You may want to read where it all came from (i've already posted this)

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/ge...de-in-britain/

It's all been in the works for many many years. The videos and quotes from the people themselves don't lie. There's thousands of more where those came from.. Denying it is useless. Since the beginning of time man has dreamed of ruling the World. This is their attempt.

So I guess you just don't know the answer to my question you refuse to answer.

If this group which has been working for hundreds of years to take over the world is so close and this treaty in Copenhagen is a huge step forward to forming their One World government why do they just give the document to this Lord Monckton and expose their plan to the world?

The summary is/was already out and causing controversy. They buried it in a pile of other documents. Just like they buried the above document posted hoping no one woul find it but claim they had it posted. I assume they figured it would take him at least a few days to find and decipher it all but I would imagine he had a number of people digging through it. It doesn't really matter to these political sociopaths they are going to do whatever it is they want to do anyway. The people are going to have to have to learn the meaning of non-compliance in mass.

It's always the same idiots challenging all of this information. It's becoming pretty obvious that they are "secretly" interested in all of this shit... they just play the role of the skeptic while they learn...

stickygreen, i'm finished up fucking your mom in the ass, she needs you to take out the trash or you are grounded for another week.

Administration Warns of 'Command-and-Control' Regulation Over Emissions
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009...tion-emissions

EPA Carbon Dioxide Decision Threatens Liberty and the Economy
http://www.usnews.com/blogs/peter-ro...he-econom.html

EPA's GHG Plans Could Boost Smart Grid Technologies (regulating your homes temperature and electricity use)
http://www.smartgridnews.com/artman/...gies-1613.html

onwebcam, where do the poorer countries fall in regards to the nwo and the UN's leadership of the one world government?

are they part of the master plan? etc...

If the cost of goods rise for you and I what do you think is going to happen for them?

eh? that's not an answer, i was deferring to your expertise on fact-finding re: the nwo and the un's mandate to "promote higher standards of living, full employment, and conditions of economic and social progress and development".

do you not know? it's cool if you don't. i just figured you did.