Let me explain to you why this assertion is just stupid... global warming proponents who are scientists do not say that global warming will result in warmer temperatures for the whole period... as a matter of fact they are saying that once the ocean currents are interrupted by the lack of polar ice that we will actually enter another ice age... this is the biggest concern... warming itself is not a threat... changing the ocean currents is.

What is this mysterious other factor?

The Sun
http://solarscience.msfc.nasa.gov/SunspotCycle.shtml

Imagine that. That big thing that gives us light warms things up on occasion..

Should we tax the use of the sun? Or is this the roundabout way of doing it? I mean after all we are going to move to solar and wind power eh?

These arguments are ludicrous... seriously.

Which scientists are you referring to the 2500 IPCC fraud ones? I'll give you 30,000 other including 9,000 PHDs that say those scientists can't predict next weeks weather. That is without their weather manipulation avenues..

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh Whos being ridiculous? You don't believe the sun causes warming? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

No... the ones that want to tax your ability to breathe... :error :321GFY

Asphyxiation??? lol So do you not think plants regulate our oxygen ? More Co2 more O2 released. Wouldn't you think? lol

Nobody said Carbon Dioxide was a pollutant, I said and the article said green house gasses are pollutants, and they are.

Even the EPA says it's not at pollutant, that it's used by trees, water, put out by humans, etc. Nobody, not the Gov or EPA is trying to hide/mask that.

That article doesn't talk about taxing carbon dioxide, nothing I have seen so far talks about taxing carbon dioxide put out by humans or farm animals.

More Co2 does not mean more O2, it means, more Co2. Add in enough Co2 and everything dies, ie: Venus.

http://www.neonsumo.com/wp-content/u.../oh-really.jpg

"A carbon tax is a tax on the carbon content of fuels — effectively a tax on the carbon dioxide emissions from burning fossil fuels. Thus, carbon tax is shorthand for carbon dioxide tax or CO2 tax."

http://www.carbontax.org/introduction/

So what now? Are we going to change the course and call it "greenhouse gas tax" to fit the bill much like we went from "global warming" to "climate change?"

Thanks, I understand what a carbon tax is..

But "I" do not have a carbon tax and no law has been suggested to add one. Companies already get taxed on green house gases they put out, produce, create, etc.. this is a limit to those, and if they want to go over, then they pay more - which goes back to the people/public fund, and not the gov/world bank.

But, but, but you said it wasn't a tax on carbon dioxide? If they are already paying a tax then why the need for another? Unless you want to tax and regulate "the people" which is what this does.

It doesn;t go to the gov/world bank? Hmm you might want to tell that to the World bank

"The draft hands effective control of climate change finance to the World Bank"

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environmen...ay-danish-text

Either way the money is going to the World Bank and the IMF to be used and disbursed by the World Government. It's another level of what we already have in multiple layers as far as local gov, national gov now > world gov.. Only these bureaucrats will be unelected. More or less an EU gov on a World scale.

EPA 'Cow Tax' Could Charge $175 per Dairy Cow to Curb Greenhouse Gases
http://businessandmedia.org/articles...230165231.aspx

EPA to Tax Farts and Belches of Cows and Pigs!

http://www.associatedcontent.com/art...s_of_cows.html

Once again these are the dumbfucks behind this agenda..

They tax green house gasses, they don't tax carbon DIRECTLY...Even the EPA has said, it's not pollution.

The Document gives Countries access to the World Bank, access they already had. In 100's of UN regulations already put out. The reference of taxing and going to the public, is under our tax and cap.

Why would they want access to the World Bank or the IMF those two have been bankrupting countries since their inception. Just like they are now in collusion with the other central banks they own IE Federal Reserve. Do you think that's going to change now? No, no, no we need much less of them. Those fucking people aren't a goddamn charity. They are fucking thieves. Have you already forgotten about the disappearance of 24+ trillion dollars by them?

And those Countries have a "choice" they don't have to borrow from the World Bank, it's not forced, it's an option.. just like complying to the U.N. Climate agreement. And from what I understand, every Country that has any type of banking system, is tied to the World Bank.

So they aren't talking anything they don't already have.

hmm, Just like we don't have to borrow from the Federal Reserve > IMF eh? Then why do we? An option to comply? Umm wrong again. Only 51% have to vote on it and 100% have to vote to let us out. It's a rigged game..

Our Country is part of the group that set up the world banking system, I'm sure we have the option to comply, but we would need to take control back first.

51% vote on what? The U.N. Climate Document doesn't cover voting for anything, you don't have to be part of it or even be in the United Nations.

No our country fought against the central banking system for quite some time. We were duped into it by fraud. This is the next con job. 51% of the participating countries. I believe there are 190 or so in attendance. Of which the US is one.

haa the rock obama

The World Bank president has always been ran by U.S. Citizen, voted in by the U.S. from day 1. The World Bank was primarly setup by the U.S. and U.K.


Where are you getting the voting from? The U.N. Climate Agreement thing requires no votes to be part of it, it doesn't even require you to be part of the U.N.

good fucking god, onwebcam... you are a fucking lunatic that is constantly contradicting whatever you previously say. It's people like you that are ruining it for everyone else. You really believe that if you spew lies enough, that enough people will start to agree with you.

I will not enter into a factual debate with you, so don't even bother to ask me to point out your contradictions... it will do no good... it will be like talking to a wall... so, don't ask...

just know that in the grand scheme of things that you are simply an idiot that has 'believed' one too many times. sigh...

one thing I will point out earlier in this thread where Cykoe posted that idiots like you distract from non-idiots with legitimate concerns that paralell your views... only they don't do it in a nutcase manner... Cykoe made a good point, but it went right over your head and you just attacked him back with more nonsense... way to alienate even the people that might have listened to you... were you not a nutcase.

Vote, sign whatever. Same difference. The fact is the modern form of central banking originated in England. It was used to usurp our government. Do I need to dig up Andrew Jackson quotes and others?


What the hell are you talking about? Please do explain where I have contradicted myself.. Or are you going to come in here and act all big and bad without giving any proof of your own like these other fools. Seems I'm the only fucking one giving any proof everyone else is saying "it ain't so"

see... like talking to a wall.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh Explain yourself fool. Am I raining on your green day parade? What?