folks, this is an interesting insight from an educated man who knows his clients.......

best review site ever

thanks for responding... I will touch base with you monday...

The surfers are gonna love it for sure:
true WYSIWYG.
Congrats to the idea and the launch!

pretty good product
now I wonder why it took so long before somebody came with this "live" reviews

This review site is awesome, really.

Innovative technique for reviewing sites. That's one hell of a review site, I don't think a surfer needs more than what it is offered in this website in terms of details and professionalism.

Ever wonder where your $100 PPS comes from?

http://www.livereviews.com/1988/Adul...-Teen-GFS.html

Hope you're banking 90% of that money cuz the surfer you sent here ain't never comin' back.

Yeah!!!!! for top-notch stand-up bros.

:moon:laughing-:2 cents::321GFY:disgust:uhoh:anon:action-sm:boid:eatme:thefinger:throwup

Looking forward to this. If you can get surfers to sit thru 5-12 min long video reviews, this can be an industry changing project. Good luck to you.

The wary buyer will avoid that site once they see the video telling them they have to buy into another site. We have to remember the buyer is not some newbie who has just got connected. It would be nice to know how they pay $100 on a sign up someone somewhere is getting ripped.

Rest assured the ones getting fucked ain't Biggy and the bros of FuckYouCash who also own PrettyInCash which is the brogram for TeenGFS. I guess I shouldn't be so hard on them. I mean, the name of their program is FUCKYOUcash. No false advertising here.

Hello Mr. Surfer, thank you so much for checking out our tour and choosing to take the time to take your credit card out of your wallet and plugging in all of your billing info and choosing to spend your hard earned cash on some porn and helping to support the world of adult entertainment in general. As an added bonus, we're now going to FUCK YOU so that we can make as much money as possible from you even though that's going to fuck up the industry for every single one of our peers in the industry and inhibit you from joining any of our other sites or any adult site of anyone, ever again. Best regards. Your friends at TeenGFS.

Holy crap, I hadn't even looked at the "spam email" page. 14 unwanted emails from signing up to one shady site. What a shame.

Paul, I hope you and your wife are doing well.

Another idea came to me that would make this site tops. Sign up under an affiliate code not linked to the site and report the payment. With NATS type programs it will just show as a lot of them have a minimum per program, at least it will show in the stats.

Another thing is to tell the surfer somehow on the review about spam and dodgy billing practices, this can be done be a simple link to a report.

Hi LickMyBalls I'm doing pretty badly, very weak and have a fever on top of the cancer treatment. Wednesday I get the CT scan and will post a thread of the results. Eva is fine and the powerhouse behind the family and business.

Paul, can you clarify what you mean by above? Not following.

And very sorry to hear you're not feeling well man. Cancer fucking sucks. Stay strong.

I love the site and the idea and the execution is flawless. Now I have not read every single thread so forgive me if it was said already but I think it would be great to have the female talent conduct the reviews instead of the males that are currently doing it.

take a look at photoshopusertv.com you could have the girls stay on the set and show the process on the monitor that you show the previews on. Just and idea. I can imagine that it would skyrocket the already high production costs but I think if you could get the female voice in there it would help.

:thumbsup

Another cool idea would be to have some solo models who are actually featured on the site say something like "Hey if you think I am sexy, come take a look at the full review of my site....if you like what you see please join" etc.

I know this is not as biased but I wonder if you could only allow the ones to do a preview of their review after they have passed a certain quality test or something.

good idea but the SEs cant read a fucking video moron :321GFY

I never said they could. I said it was an impressive review site

sorry, i ment to call whoever made the site a moron, not you.


it might get alot of bookmarkers but wont show up in the SEs. the reason why is here.
http://www.webconfs.com/similar-page-checker.php
all the pages are 84% similar and that will get you a penalty so fuck that idea.

How did you get them to review your site? I sent them two emails, nothing. I must suck. Yes, Yes I know I do, snarkers. :D

LOVE the site - can you review Fellucia Blow, Sexxy Brandon and MILF Mia? I sent you guys a couple emails and these sites, with their video content, would rock for you!! Let me know, if possible. :) :) :)

Everybody gets reviewed!! The good, the bad, the ugly, the crooks and the liars. All of them!!! Everything we find will get posted. Including all fraudulent charges done to our cards. Will be very easy to spot, because we use one card and one Email address per site, not per network.



If we review a 10 sites from one network, we will be using 10 cards and 10 different Emails. We have the money, the resources, the knowledge and the experience to make this project successful. We are in Beta right now, stay tuned to see what happens the 1st of the year.:thumbsup




Got your email. It got on a list of sites to review.:thumbsup

I wouldn't be surprised if some shady owners clean up there act before you get the chance to review them and expose their evil ways.

I guess thats a good thing and will clean up the industry little by little.

Can't wait to see this progress :thumbsup

Wow, I can't wait to see some head rolls on some of these reviews! Great idea and execution :thumbsup

why not?

I would think it would be a trivial matter for review site script writers to add a quick video spot that any review site webmaster could put up a quick video with screenshots and a voice over, the surfers won't care how much is in the video, it would be quite easy to make a site that to the surfer would seem pretty much the same, without needing to spend all kinds of money.... a quick mod to a review site script could allow the webmaster to quickly add a video inline with their already existing text based review site, so this idea is unlikely to stay unique, and especially will not be unique in the eyes of the surfer population (you wouldn't even need to use a credit card to sign in to all of your reviewed sites, having a reviewer pass would give you plenty to be able to do screencaps in a narrated video form for next to no cost, just maybe a half hours time to put it together) :2 cents:

Thats right, no one can hide, but on the other hand it will help the honest Joe.

i am working on a similar site with shorter videos.

Online video reviews are not unique or anything new (look at just about anything on youtube). You don't see it very much in adult because of all the criticisms that were listed here in this 1,000 page thread.

I think it's a cool site but honestly, I prefer a text-based (though maybe interactive) review site. I doubt most review site surfers read 100% of the review, and it's much easier to skim a text review than it is to skim a video. I watched one of the live reviews and with the exception of the hot chick in the beginning, it was fucking boring.

As a surfer, I personally wouldn't choose to get porn site information this way. There's ways they could improve this but I'll leave it at that. I'm sure several review site owners (me included) have tinkered with the idea but at the end of the day, it just didn't seem that appealing. Maybe I'm wrong, we'll see. In either event, it is an impressive review site because they clearly put a lot of work and thought into it.

quicklivereviews.com?

they be should doing video sitemaps

What about the programs/paysites that tell you to change the review or take down what they don't like?

Good or Bad, it's not like you have a choice.

The first thing I would do is post the email/letter/letter from attorney on GFY, then I'd attach it to the review itself. Just a further indicator of the programs shadiness.

Well Done Robbie:) Happy Holidays as well:thumbsup

Mr. Romance

What? They aren't just making up baseless defamatory comments. That's like a scam artist contacting, 'ripoffreport.com' and demanding experiences with their company be removed. :1orglaugh

They have no legal course of action, livereviews bought memberships with their own money and posted their experience.

I like it, I like it a lot. I expect it to take a long time to break even, but I am sure it will. If your serious about porn then before you join a site, watching a video review I think will be a must for a lot of surfers.

I wish them the best of luck.

Difference... one review site is paid for the reviews and the other isn't.

Our Industry programs have 100% of the power... review sites thinking they have any power, is retarded.

First thing I would do is not review dishonest paysites/programs.... why take the chance that the surfer won't see the warnings or simply ignore them? It will happen, without question - even bad reviews make sales.

I duno what I think of this. I watched a few reviews, the guy reviewing them seems kinda dumb. He said not to join one site because its gonna take 2 min to download a 67MB clip (540kb download). He thinks it should take 40 sec which is 1.675MB a sec download speed. I mean 540 isnt bad enough to not signup.

Its also great for affiliates to check the sites :)

few notes:

a) People need to stress less about if the site will or wont do well with SE, and if it does or don't make financial sense, especially given that you have no clue about the exact business plan, for the sake of letting you people sleep better at night I guarantee you that it will be very well positioned in all SE's, it will take 3-4 months to start seeing that but don't lose sleep over it, and no it will be 100% legit positioning.

b) The net is a big place, and its growing daily, some will read some will watch some wont do anything, the point is sitting there and talking about what you would do shows a lack of understanding how business works. I wouldn't join a site that shows women getting examined by doctors, but for 8 years now im shooting weekly updates for my medical fetish site. Thinking about what you would or wouldn't do is no way to research a business. You have to spend real money and do real research to understand what does or doesn't have a chance.

c) Anyone can ask to be removed and we will remove it, there will be a separate page of those who asked to be removed, the surfer will be able to draw their own conclusion, and yes even some reviews that are bad will still get joins.

d) What you find boring and a waste of time, is exactly what most surfers find very useful info. Reviewers are told to spend as much time as needed and present the facts.

It’s a project designed to help good sites get joins and to get those surfers who use to pay to start buying memberships again. And the little feedback from surfers so far has been extremely positive. Many joined to be updated for new updates and with the little test traffic I sent some joined sites too.

yeah like tube sites videos don't dominate the serps right now with the little to no text. fucking morons i tell you ....

This is an amazing site for those in the industry and end users!!! Visited their studio a few weeks ago and saw these guys in action! I was very impressed! :thumbsup

That's a great point as well.

You think consumerreports.com is paid to review products? You think motortrend is paid by the car manufacture to review their cars? There is absolutely nothing illegal about it. It's not about having "power", which BTW doesn't even make sense. :1orglaugh

Brain a tad slow this morning?
Adult Industry reviews are paid, per sale, as an affiliate that agrees to terms. Consumer reports, motortrend, doesn't get paid by the creator/producer of the product to write the review.

Who said anything about legal or illegal?

They have the power because you're an affiliate, following an affiliate programs rules and terms, bound by an agreement, allowed to use our copyright/trademarks, and the program is the one writing the checks...

All I can say is BRILLIANT!! :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup

I love all your lil projects - I see this one paying off :thumbsup

Not necessarily, read a motor trend magazine. On one page motor trend will give a horrible review about one of Ford's cars for example, then on the next page will be an advertisement that Ford pays for.

If you're a shady program owner then fine, terminate livereview.com's affiliate account for informing consumers about your shady practices. Either way you lose, even if you terminate the account they can still keep the review online. They can even recommend a similar site on the review and still cop a sale.

You can try to relate it, but at the end of the day Motor trend isn't being paid for the review, making commissions from it or taking any payment directly for the review. When they advertise they get permission to use the trademarks in the ad, when they write a review they get different permission.

What they do not do is tell the reader to watch out at the dealership as they will try to upsell you insurance, features, tinted windows, oil changes, etc... services you can get for free, services you don't need, services that don't deliver as always promised.

If they did, Ford would make them change the reviews or wouldn't 'allow' the review.


Aff Programs give review sites permission to use trademarks, copyrighted material, etc when they signup as an affiliate.

If a paysite tells you to take the review down and/or change information, the review site has no choice. Yeah, they could leave some trash review up and even link up....

...but it's rather easy to redirect traffic. And think if they are ever wrong or mistaken, if the program wasn't responsible for the fraud but maybe your bank had a leak, and you accused a program of fraud or a host got hacked. IE: No fraud that is the program or paysites fault.

That does happen, much more than programs that bang cards for fraud and actually stay in business to tell about it.

We already know people in our Industry will sue for hurting the brand/image, quickly.... I have, and would do it again.

Awesome idea. Some concerns or improvements I have are:

-You don't really discuss video quality or merits of the content at all. I saw one review where the videos were very low res and looked pretty old and crappy. It wasn't mentioned.

-What happened when you tried to cancel?

-I think prechecked cross sales should be mentioned in the review.

-Navigation of the reviews needs to be improved. And the interface in general.

-How are you going to drive traffic to this? A great idea is useless if nobody sees it.

Well livereviews might have an affiliate link, but after giving a shitty review who is really going to join that site? If the program owner contacts them and says your method of advertising violates our TOS, it's no big loss for livereviews. Like I said they can just recommend a similar site on the review page.

Like I said, it doesn't really hurt the review site. If they were concerned with sales with that program they wouldn't be writing a bad review. In fact I think it would even be in their best interest to not even use the affiliate program and just link to a better program.

And seriously, what are the odds of that? A brand new credit card being banged coincidentally after signing up for a porn site?

If I owned livereviews I would say bring it on. :) I commend them for standing up against piece of shit program owners that are destroying this business. They are not writing derogatory comments, they aren't out to harm a brand or image, they are simply posting honest reviews of what to expect after joining a paysite.

A.) Pre-checked Cross sales.
B.) Spam
C.) Fraud

Let the piece of shit program owners sue for being called out on their shady practices then. Odds are they won't though. If they are indeed spamming and banging cards it could open up an investigation.

Spam without an opt out link is illegal
Obviously banging credit cards is illegal and can easily be investigated.