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SleazyDream 12-12-2009 01:36 PM

havn't checked in a bit - so this is EscortBiz's site?


nice job

burntfilm 12-12-2009 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 16639508)
I bring up opinions because review sites aren't currently reviewing what they should be, they're injecting mass opinion in areas that they aren't experts in.

First, our Industry pays for the reviews... Two, our reviewers aren't experts in all the niches they review...

Yup, niche based reviews by people familiar with a niche would actually help consumers, whether in video or text.

PSD 12-12-2009 02:05 PM

They have over 200 reviews, so they used over 200 different credit cards?

JustDaveXxx 12-12-2009 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by JCK (Post 16639925)
They have over 200 reviews, so they used over 200 different credit cards?

Yup! All different cards left open to see who bangs what. All to be posted. Thats when the real fireworks will begin.lol If you think 200 is a lot, check out what we have up on xmas and see whats up before new years.:thumbsup

BV 12-12-2009 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by JCK (Post 16639925)
They have over 200 reviews, so they used over 200 different credit cards?

Many sites grant access to their whole network of sites with one password. :2 cents:

Not saying that's the case here, but I can confirm that they bought a password from me.

I had no idea they even reviewed my site until I saw this thread.

Suits me though, I have nothing to hide.

amacontent 12-12-2009 03:31 PM

It took me a while to get the concept til I actually saw it being worked. Then I couldnt believe what an industry changer this could be. My thoughts are the people who get upset with this are the people ruining the industry. It will be like a burgler complaining about security systems.

SleazyDream 12-12-2009 03:35 PM

i love the reviews but I find myself dying for a rating system so I know which ones to watch as i don't want to watch them all.....

Robbie 12-12-2009 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 16640065)
i love the reviews but I find myself dying for a rating system so I know which ones to watch as i don't want to watch them all.....

Problem with ratings is...if you were a guy who checked out a porn site and decided to see the review on it, and the person reviewing the site gave their OPINION of it and gave it a certain score...then that score (rating) could negatively impact whether the potential customer joins or not. Even though the site might be perfect for them.

I had a post a little while back that had to do with a guy who was a former member of CM's site. He loved the site and had been gone for a few months and was coming back to re-join. But then he read the rabbits review of CM's site and wrote me worried that the site had changed! lol

I had to tell him that it was still the same only with MORE updates.

I found it incredulous that an affiliate would actually be HURTING my sales instead of doing their job and making sales for me.

Long story short, I calmed the guy down and he's a member today. Matter of fact he was one of the members enjoying our live webcast every wed.

That's the problem I have with review sites. They spend too much time on b.s. and not enough on what the site is REALLY about. For me, it's fans of Claudia-Marie that come to us. Believe me, I know EXACTLY what they want as I do everything for the site including support. I correspond with the members every day.

So when a review site comes along and posts up generic "scores" and "ratings" that have NOTHING to do with the experience that we are trying to create it does nothing but hurt sales.

Last I checked affiliates are supposed to MAKE sales based on marketing skills. Not drive them away through poor salesmanship.

That's why I like the concept of livereviews.com

Simply show the surfer what's there behind the members area. Let them make up their own mind. No need for an "opinion" of somebody who goes down his reviewers checklist for every site.

Not all people want to see a Brazzers members area.

For instance, here in Vegas the BEST steak in town is at a little place called The Ranch House. Yeah, I could go on the strip to a famous "name" restraunt and pay 20 times more in an elegant expensive building with waiters dressed in tuxedos...but bottom line is: The Ranch House steak tastes better.

That's the simple truth that review sites always miss. They are so busy "reviewing" the silverware, the tables, the floor, and the waiters...that they never really talk about the damn food!

livereviews lets the potential customer taste it for themselves and make up their own minds. :thumbsup

SleazyDream 12-12-2009 03:55 PM

robbie I agree with you and you run some GREAT sites - I've always said you have a quality product.

but as a surfer looking at the reviews I would still want some way of knowing which reviews to watch and not spend 600 million hours watching them all.......

it might be just me and I know fuck all about review sites - but i'm just saying what i feel when i go into the site as a surfer is all.... i don't want to have to watch all 50 videos to find the best site in a category - i want to watch 2-3 in a category and know they reviewed 50 and pick from what they say is the best.....

i'm fat and lazy and I want them to tell me what I need

Robbie 12-12-2009 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 16640097)
robbie I agree with you and you run some GREAT sites - I've always said you have a quality product.

but as a surfer looking at the reviews I would still want some way of knowing which reviews to watch and not spend 600 million hours watching them all.......

it might be just me and I know fuck all about review sites - but i'm just saying what i feel when i go into the site as a surfer is all.... i don't want to have to watch all 50 videos to find the best site in a category - i want to watch 2-3 in a category and know they reviewed 50 and pick from what they say is the best.....

That would be a surfer who doesn't really have a specific site in mind. He's just window shopping. He might buy a membership, or he might not.

You're right. I don't think this review site is optimal for selling to that guy.

I think it's going to get some of them sold a membership for sure, but I think it's gonna find GOLD in a more targeted consumer who already knows what he wants and just wants to verify it before he makes his final decision.

Those careful buyers are pure gold. And once they join they are loyal and stay a loooonnnnggg time. Whereas I have always noticed that the few sales I've gotten from rabbits for the most part don't stay. They tend to join and then cancel immediately so they don't rebill in the majority of cases.

SleazyDream 12-12-2009 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 16640104)
That would be a surfer who doesn't really have a specific site in mind. He's just window shopping. He might buy a membership, or he might not.

You're right. I don't think this review site is optimal for selling to that guy.

I think it's going to get some of them sold a membership for sure, but I think it's gonna find GOLD in a more targeted consumer who already knows what he wants and just wants to verify it before he makes his final decision.

Those careful buyers are pure gold. And once they join they are loyal and stay a loooonnnnggg time. Whereas I have always noticed that the few sales I've gotten from rabbits for the most part don't stay. They tend to join and then cancel immediately so they don't rebill in the majority of cases.

folks, this is an interesting insight from an educated man who knows his clients.......

fris 12-12-2009 04:07 PM

best review site ever

Blazing 12-12-2009 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by EscortBiz (Post 16639718)
Hi

responded friday and also icq'ed you now

thanks for responding... I will touch base with you monday...

notime 12-13-2009 04:33 AM

The surfers are gonna love it for sure:
true WYSIWYG.
Congrats to the idea and the launch!

SPP 12-13-2009 05:06 AM

pretty good product
now I wonder why it took so long before somebody came with this "live" reviews

sex69 12-13-2009 05:11 AM

This review site is awesome, really.

WWC-Pajio 12-13-2009 05:51 AM

Innovative technique for reviewing sites. That's one hell of a review site, I don't think a surfer needs more than what it is offered in this website in terms of details and professionalism.

LickMyBalls 12-13-2009 06:46 AM

Ever wonder where your $100 PPS comes from?

http://www.livereviews.com/1988/Adul...-Teen-GFS.html

Hope you're banking 90% of that money cuz the surfer you sent here ain't never comin' back.

Yeah!!!!! for top-notch stand-up bros.

:moon:laughing-:2 cents::321GFY:disgust:uhoh:anon:action-sm:boid:eatme:thefinger:throwup

LickMyBalls 12-13-2009 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by JustDaveXxx (Post 16639991)
Yup! All different cards left open to see who bangs what. All to be posted. Thats when the real fireworks will begin.lol If you think 200 is a lot, check out what we have up on xmas and see whats up before new years.:thumbsup

Looking forward to this. If you can get surfers to sit thru 5-12 min long video reviews, this can be an industry changing project. Good luck to you.

Paul Markham 12-13-2009 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by LickMyBalls (Post 16641086)
Ever wonder where your $100 PPS comes from?

http://www.livereviews.com/1988/Adul...-Teen-GFS.html

Hope you're banking 90% of that money cuz the surfer you sent here ain't never comin' back.

Yeah!!!!! for top-notch stand-up bros.

:moon:laughing-:2 cents::321GFY:disgust:uhoh:anon:action-sm:boid:eatme:thefinger:throwup

The wary buyer will avoid that site once they see the video telling them they have to buy into another site. We have to remember the buyer is not some newbie who has just got connected. It would be nice to know how they pay $100 on a sign up someone somewhere is getting ripped.

LickMyBalls 12-13-2009 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 16641107)
someone somewhere is getting ripped.

Rest assured the ones getting fucked ain't Biggy and the bros of FuckYouCash who also own PrettyInCash which is the brogram for TeenGFS. I guess I shouldn't be so hard on them. I mean, the name of their program is FUCKYOUcash. No false advertising here.

Hello Mr. Surfer, thank you so much for checking out our tour and choosing to take the time to take your credit card out of your wallet and plugging in all of your billing info and choosing to spend your hard earned cash on some porn and helping to support the world of adult entertainment in general. As an added bonus, we're now going to FUCK YOU so that we can make as much money as possible from you even though that's going to fuck up the industry for every single one of our peers in the industry and inhibit you from joining any of our other sites or any adult site of anyone, ever again. Best regards. Your friends at TeenGFS.

Holy crap, I hadn't even looked at the "spam email" page. 14 unwanted emails from signing up to one shady site. What a shame.

Paul, I hope you and your wife are doing well.

Paul Markham 12-13-2009 09:58 AM

Another idea came to me that would make this site tops. Sign up under an affiliate code not linked to the site and report the payment. With NATS type programs it will just show as a lot of them have a minimum per program, at least it will show in the stats.

Another thing is to tell the surfer somehow on the review about spam and dodgy billing practices, this can be done be a simple link to a report.

Hi LickMyBalls I'm doing pretty badly, very weak and have a fever on top of the cancer treatment. Wednesday I get the CT scan and will post a thread of the results. Eva is fine and the powerhouse behind the family and business.

LickMyBalls 12-14-2009 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 16641369)
Another idea came to me that would make this site tops. Sign up under an affiliate code not linked to the site and report the payment. With NATS type programs it will just show as a lot of them have a minimum per program, at least it will show in the stats.

Paul, can you clarify what you mean by above? Not following.

And very sorry to hear you're not feeling well man. Cancer fucking sucks. Stay strong.

shuki 12-14-2009 12:13 PM

I love the site and the idea and the execution is flawless. Now I have not read every single thread so forgive me if it was said already but I think it would be great to have the female talent conduct the reviews instead of the males that are currently doing it.

take a look at photoshopusertv.com you could have the girls stay on the set and show the process on the monitor that you show the previews on. Just and idea. I can imagine that it would skyrocket the already high production costs but I think if you could get the female voice in there it would help.

:thumbsup

shuki 12-14-2009 12:21 PM

Another cool idea would be to have some solo models who are actually featured on the site say something like "Hey if you think I am sexy, come take a look at the full review of my site....if you like what you see please join" etc.

I know this is not as biased but I wonder if you could only allow the ones to do a preview of their review after they have passed a certain quality test or something.

Doctor Feelgood 12-14-2009 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 16631563)
Shemp showed us this one:

http://www.livereviews.com/

good idea but the SEs cant read a fucking video moron :321GFY

Robbie 12-14-2009 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Doctor Feelgood (Post 16644895)
good idea but the SEs cant read a fucking video moron :321GFY

I never said they could. I said it was an impressive review site

Doctor Feelgood 12-14-2009 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 16631563)
Shemp showed us this one:

http://www.livereviews.com/

sorry, i ment to call whoever made the site a moron, not you.


it might get alot of bookmarkers but wont show up in the SEs. the reason why is here.
http://www.webconfs.com/similar-page-checker.php
all the pages are 84% similar and that will get you a penalty so fuck that idea.

The Porn Nerd 12-14-2009 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by THY (Post 16634828)
cool, thanks for reviewing 2 of my sites already :)
that was a surprise...

How did you get them to review your site? I sent them two emails, nothing. I must suck. Yes, Yes I know I do, snarkers. :D

The Porn Nerd 12-14-2009 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by JustDaveXxx (Post 16639684)
HAHAHAHAHA!!!!! And Ibill is trusted and is gonna make money again? Too funny!!!

LOVE the site - can you review Fellucia Blow, Sexxy Brandon and MILF Mia? I sent you guys a couple emails and these sites, with their video content, would rock for you!! Let me know, if possible. :) :) :)

JustDaveXxx 12-14-2009 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by MisterPeabody (Post 16644977)
LOVE the site - can you review Fellucia Blow, Sexxy Brandon and MILF Mia? I sent you guys a couple emails and these sites, with their video content, would rock for you!! Let me know, if possible. :) :) :)


Everybody gets reviewed!! The good, the bad, the ugly, the crooks and the liars. All of them!!! Everything we find will get posted. Including all fraudulent charges done to our cards. Will be very easy to spot, because we use one card and one Email address per site, not per network.



If we review a 10 sites from one network, we will be using 10 cards and 10 different Emails. We have the money, the resources, the knowledge and the experience to make this project successful. We are in Beta right now, stay tuned to see what happens the 1st of the year.:thumbsup




Got your email. It got on a list of sites to review.:thumbsup

shuki 12-14-2009 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by JustDaveXxx (Post 16645140)
Everybody gets reviewed!! The good, the bad, the ugly, the crooks and the liars. All of them!!! Everything we find will get posted. Including all fraudulent charges done to our cards. Will be very easy to spot, because we use one card and one Email address per site, not per network.



If we review a 10 sites from one network, we will be using 10 cards and 10 different Emails. We have the money, the resources, the knowledge and the experience to make this project successful. We are in Beta right now, stay tuned to see what happens the 1st of the year.:thumbsup




Got your email. It got on a list of sites to review.:thumbsup

I wouldn't be surprised if some shady owners clean up there act before you get the chance to review them and expose their evil ways.

I guess thats a good thing and will clean up the industry little by little.

Can't wait to see this progress :thumbsup

Mohawk Steve 12-15-2009 01:44 PM

Wow, I can't wait to see some head rolls on some of these reviews! Great idea and execution :thumbsup

d-null 12-15-2009 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Max_PuZcash (Post 16632116)
yes impressive... also you can't just copy the concept

why not?

I would think it would be a trivial matter for review site script writers to add a quick video spot that any review site webmaster could put up a quick video with screenshots and a voice over, the surfers won't care how much is in the video, it would be quite easy to make a site that to the surfer would seem pretty much the same, without needing to spend all kinds of money.... a quick mod to a review site script could allow the webmaster to quickly add a video inline with their already existing text based review site, so this idea is unlikely to stay unique, and especially will not be unique in the eyes of the surfer population (you wouldn't even need to use a credit card to sign in to all of your reviewed sites, having a reviewer pass would give you plenty to be able to do screencaps in a narrated video form for next to no cost, just maybe a half hours time to put it together) :2 cents:

amacontent 12-15-2009 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Mohawk Steve (Post 16649016)
Wow, I can't wait to see some head rolls on some of these reviews! Great idea and execution :thumbsup

Thats right, no one can hide, but on the other hand it will help the honest Joe.

Agent 488 12-15-2009 10:47 PM

i am working on a similar site with shorter videos.

cyco_cc 12-15-2009 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by d-null (Post 16650264)
why not?

I would think it would be a trivial matter for review site script writers to add a quick video spot that any review site webmaster could put up a quick video with screenshots and a voice over, the surfers won't care how much is in the video, it would be quite easy to make a site that to the surfer would seem pretty much the same, without needing to spend all kinds of money.... a quick mod to a review site script could allow the webmaster to quickly add a video inline with their already existing text based review site, so this idea is unlikely to stay unique, and especially will not be unique in the eyes of the surfer population (you wouldn't even need to use a credit card to sign in to all of your reviewed sites, having a reviewer pass would give you plenty to be able to do screencaps in a narrated video form for next to no cost, just maybe a half hours time to put it together) :2 cents:

Online video reviews are not unique or anything new (look at just about anything on youtube). You don't see it very much in adult because of all the criticisms that were listed here in this 1,000 page thread.

I think it's a cool site but honestly, I prefer a text-based (though maybe interactive) review site. I doubt most review site surfers read 100% of the review, and it's much easier to skim a text review than it is to skim a video. I watched one of the live reviews and with the exception of the hot chick in the beginning, it was fucking boring.

As a surfer, I personally wouldn't choose to get porn site information this way. There's ways they could improve this but I'll leave it at that. I'm sure several review site owners (me included) have tinkered with the idea but at the end of the day, it just didn't seem that appealing. Maybe I'm wrong, we'll see. In either event, it is an impressive review site because they clearly put a lot of work and thought into it.

cyco_cc 12-15-2009 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 16651018)
i am working on a similar site with shorter videos.

quicklivereviews.com?

fris 12-16-2009 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Doctor Feelgood (Post 16644895)
good idea but the SEs cant read a fucking video moron :321GFY

they be should doing video sitemaps

TheDoc 12-16-2009 06:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JustDaveXxx (Post 16645140)
Everybody gets reviewed!! The good, the bad, the ugly, the crooks and the liars. All of them!!! Everything we find will get posted. Including all fraudulent charges done to our cards. Will be very easy to spot, because we use one card and one Email address per site, not per network.


What about the programs/paysites that tell you to change the review or take down what they don't like?

Good or Bad, it's not like you have a choice.


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