congratulations!


I remember hearing about how many americans go bankrupt over medical bills...

thank God I'm Canadian

Congrats!

congrats, but ouch on the bill.

no thanks, not my style to argue on a message board, it's retarded. i simply stated the quality of health care received is the best. i never stated it was SUPERIOR or available to all or the system is best.

the imr being what it is is more an indicator of how unhealthy americans are, which is not the topic of this thread. the imr reveals our lack of preventative care, unhealthy eating and bad habits.

i don't really care if you call me names or what you think of someone called dyna mo at a place called gfy, your tone displays more about you than me.


happy holidays!

Usually that's when they are uninsured. I'm still wondering how two people can have coverage that doesn't include maternity.

Then consider yourself lucky that you're somewhere that getting sick won't cost you anything because its not going to change anytime soon.

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thank god for pakistani health care.

here's the thing though - for a LOT of Americans health insurance is EMPLOYMENT based

even if it isn't tied to your employee benefits - you still have to make money to have it

what if you hit financial trouble and you bill becomes due? what if you loose your job?

it's like saying - take no risks cause if you do and have health problems you DIE.

I believe that countries WITH free health care are more capitalistic than those without.

Congrats on the birth of your daughter.

We went abroad for IVF and the birth of our daughter. We would have been waiting FOREVER to just get on the waiting list in Canada.

If you lose your job you can continue paying for your same healthcare until you find another job or switch providers. It doesn't just stop the day you leave your place of employment.

Congrats on the baby. :)

Cedars is great (I had my back surgery their last year) but they charge a fortune my 2 day hospital stay was $79000. Thankfully some of it covered by insurance but not all.


I agree with ADG...call the billing dept and see if you can get them down in price.

Congrats, NICU is well worth every penny. They do wonders.

congrats :thumbsup

in america if you don't pay your bill do they take your baby?

healthcare in canada is not free. Not sure why that myth perpetuates. There is one insurance coverage for everyone , your fee is based on your net income. Coverage is probably free for welfare people like it is in usa.

As far as quality, each field is going to have its up's and downs, but for the most part common sense says quality doctors make alot more money in usa so alot of canadian doctors move there, that has to influence quality.

Congrats man!

160k ouch

Congrats on the new bambino.

My girls daughter was born premature and weighed 3 pounds. They took care of her for 6 weeks at Children's hospital in Vancouver. The max we pay in Canada for health care is $54 a month.
It cost her $81 for the 6 weeks

the sad thing is most people would either have to claim bankruptsy or turn to crime when receiving a bill like this.

congrats on the kid!

ivf is not covered as far as i know. any waiting list would not be due to the horrible health care system canada has that you always love to complain about.

Huge Congrats.. I know I will and do anything for my son.. He is totally amazing.

Thank you Shapster, yeah when she was born I remember how I felt and it brought me back to how you said having your son was "magic". It feels very fulfilling to be part of the cycle of life.

Congrats man, my baby was in the nicu for 8 days too, she was born a month early.
But every second we spend with her is priceless, she brings so much joy to us. Keep up the good work.

Doctors make enough money in the western world, they don't need to leave everything behind to make a little more, their living standard is pretty high. Too bad they can't enjoy it, since they work most of the time.

While i want to congratulate you on your newborn... Congrats!!!

I am still left boggled as to how you are not completely pissed and let down with the system. I myself when i was born had lung issues. They exceeded that of your newborn it sound slike and my birthing bill was nowhere near that.

You sir are getting fucked and your saying its ok simply because they helped birth your baby. You should demand a full invoice as to why it cost 160k for 2 days.

OUTRAGEOUS!

Congrats on the beautifull baby.
I would let the bills keep coming keep laughing , then negotiate them in half.
If your wife was an illegal alien having a baby in the USA its like winning the lottery, but if you have a job they bend you over the barrel.
Regardless now is a time to celebrate.

Money's just money - congrats.

The insurance premiums have almost nothing to do with the actual costs of the Canadian medical system. Keeping all of these social programs afloat requires a huge amount of revenue, and is the main reason everything in Canada is much more expensive than the USA.

If you are middle to upper class in Canada, you probably pay at least half of your income out in Income Taxes, Consumption and Sales Taxes, and hidden Duties on just about everything.

So correct, it is very very far from being free.

An interesting exercise would be to amortize the OP's $160k bill over 10 years and see if the $16k per year is what would be made up in additional taxation if he were Canadian.

No the IVF procedure itself is not covered. But in our situation we could not even get a diagnosis in Canada. We had 3 very time constrained Urologists who basically diagnosed us on probability alone with 3 different answers. We had to wait for bookings for ultrasounds and other tests that we eventually got all in a timely fashion elsewhere for cash. The time from an initial interview with a Urologist, then an ultrasound and return evaluation appointment was 3 months at home. We had enough and just took matters into our own hands and have been blessed as well with a baby girl.

Your experience may differ...

That might work if that were his one and only hospital experience for himself and his family for the rest of their lives...

yes, you would

congrats!

160k bill HOLY SHIT!!

I think Americans need to rethink their insane medical system.

Congrats on the now healthy baby :thumbsup

We were merely dating when she found out she was pregers. Had we been married I would have made sure we were covered for maternity. Insurance DID cover some of it though.

Congrats! Cuteness...

Damn, humans are expensive. Didn't know it was so much to do a natural thing like procreate.

Can't wait till they tax us on carbon, a naturally occurring element in the atmosphere.

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Why don't you have a shirt on, were you breast feeding your baby? :1orglaugh

Shut the fuck up, mate.

congrats on the baby... sorry about that bill... make sure to beef up the insurance before you guys get pregnant again!

god i hope america fixes their fucked up system.

160K for two days. um, wow. cute kid.

congrats
hope you and mom and also baby are doing well.
Ruben

Was she uninsured before your marriage?