Keep up with the personal attacks, this shows your true colors. One results to personal attacks when they have no other defense. You are a nobody that caught the gold rush and now your being phased out like a puppy begging for scraps at the dinner table. Who's the bottom feeder? All the guys like you who shot 25 movies made a paysite out of it and charged $29.99, you are the bottom feeders. You should consider yourself lucky you made what money you did when you did. Tubes are putting shitty ass programs out of business like yours left and right. I consider this a good thing. You give porn a bad name. Every surfer that signs up at your site and gets ripped off for $29.99 is one more surfer that will never trust another paysite again. You idiot are the cause of your own demise.

I think you're completely wrong. DVD's are what, 2 hours long and sell for $30? And quality is more important than quantity. It only takes one scene that captures the surfer's interest for them to take out their credit card. What if a dude's into ball-busting? It's hard to find those type of sites so when he comes across a site with just ten scenes he really likes, he'll sign up.

I think the sites that must hate tubes the most are DVD sites like videobox.com. Their content is the Exact same content found on the tubes.

whew, note the bold part #1 ... you really stand behind tubes, dont ya? bold part #2 ... and you run your own ones, not? :mad: and c'mon ... personal attacks? yer in that tarball yerself, so stop complaining ok? btw, your traffic sucks :1orglaugh

My traffic sucks yet you never bought it. So you make it a common practice to say someones shit sucks, when you have never tried it and your flying someone elses competing shit in your sig? Keep running your mouth punk. No I don't have any tube sites and no I'm not behind any tube sites.

wrong path dude ... i DID try your traffic twice ... for one time and the last time :2 cents:

and since traffic-out.com is NO shit i have it in my sig ;)

geezer ... you ask to quit "personal insults", yet you call me a punk ... with NO word did i post a pun towards your person, so who is the punk huh?

personal attacks? cry me a fucking river

shot 25 movies? wtf are you on? hahaha

Dude, put down the crack pipe or whatever you're on.

Does this look like I'm ripping people off you ass clown:

http://www.bikinivoyeur.com/ccbill-cap.jpg

add it up

want me to keep posting them?

I can go all night.

You never bought traffic from me. End of conversation.

LOL so you post rebills of some idiot that signed up at your site and forgot to cancel. Didn't I see a post from you saying your best day ever for sales was $1000? You've had these sites online for 9 years and your best sales day ever was $1000? I think I proved my point here, guys like you with small paysites that don't give the members any real value hate tube sites the most. I mean do the math, the front page of any tube site has more content than your entire network has.

you wish chocker, hahahaha

where do you come up with this shit?

seriously

i'm not going to keep repeating myself, you're really not worth it and it's obvious you are talking shit (as usual)

go back to spamming fuckers with dating site joins

everyone who is not making money hate the tubes :)

50 Tube Haters

bingo !!!!!!

Your the idiot that came in my thread bashing me, if I'm not worth it why do you stalk me on this board? Hate to see someone busting their ass and doing more than buying a $999 camcorder shooting 25 scenes and calling it a network of paysites like you did? lol Post stats of yur largest affilaite asswipe, your shit is so good let's see who promotes your shitty rip off network. I've never seen a single post about the mega bvbucks program from anyone other than YOU. Who promotes this incredible network with it's whopping 25 hours of movies? lol

my shit is all over asswipe, just look for yourself.

you don't know how though, do you?

what a fucking tool.

Gallery submitters then MGP owners.

All over where? Why don't some of your affiliates post their stats? After I make my tube site using your content I'll post my stats of the prepaid ad deals I already made. Bet my tube site will make more money with your content than your own paysites make. lol

Go ahead, my lawyer will be back from vacation after the 1st of the year.

Shoot me the url when your finished if you don't mind.

Warmest Regards,
BV

"My lawyer". So now your such a player you have your own lawyer? I love when people say "My lawyer" as if they have a lawyer fulltime who does nothing but wait on their phone calls. Don't worry dude you don't have enough content to fill up even 1 page on a tube site. Your crap is not even good enough to put on a tube site.

Where's those big whale affiliates of yours at? Let's see some stats.

ive been trying to get ahaold of you for weeks now, i still cant login :Oh crap

all the cash they spent on ads coulda went to create their own decent tube site.

Reminds me of the Choker vs Sleazy episodes we had here 3 years ago. BV is even acting the part well with the "Chocker" references

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Oh sure they pull it down. Then, they put more back up. And call it "user submitted". Funny how the users never upload Brazzer content, huh?

Hey Choker -- I'm not attacking you BTW my bro. I have nothing against you. In fact, I've done biz with you in the past. It's just that this whole Tube debate makes me ill.

Your kidding right?

Yeah but BV is a amateur compared to Sleazydream. BV is only known because he posts here. At least Sleazydream had a site that was worth something and was known of outside of this board.

It's all good man, i share your disgust, I wished we could go back to the days of 10 second clips but we can't. My point is iregardless of what we know about the big tube sites they are following the law. If they were not they could be shut down. In court it doesn't matter what you know, it's what you can prove. So as far as the law is concerned until as such time as someone proves they are breaking the law, they are not.

ICQ me man I'll unfreeze it 116894466 just need to verify you are the account holder

im not getting thru, icq me

:error i got your last icq but you aint getting mine

bitch get your head out of your ass

if you don't know what i'm known for then you are living under a rock

i was contributing to this industry on many boards, writing video capture tutorials, you name it, content i shot is on dozens of wet t-shirt paysites in some of the largest programs out there

And I accomplished all that while you were still driving a cab!

Fuckface, eat shit.

Wow sounds like I hit a nerve eh? Don't get your depends in a wad old man. Chill out, sit down watch some Andy Griffith, soak your dentures in a glass of whatever you soak then in and have your dog bring you your slippers.

Dude. YES THEY ARE.

I don't know why you'd say this...or why you'd think it. They are pirates. THE END. It's the same shit that's going on with Pirate Bay.

The worst pill to swallow? Shut them down and they're up! It's as simple as that.

Here's my take -- it's all about tangibles versus intangibles. It's that simple. Human nature. If you can't feel it, and if you don't have to shove it down your pants and walk out of the store with it, people are OK with taking it for free. Especially when it's "porn"...cause, after all, we're "the bad guys" and it's OK to take from bad people.

When I taught English and the whole Napster v. Metallica thing was going down, I had tons of students who argued again Metallica. The arguments ranged from "they've made enough money" to "we're just fans sharing our enthusiasm for great music!"

I kid you not.

And guess what? Napster -- in that incarnation -- was piracy.

THE END.

Someone needs to open a "Brazzer's Tube". Host it somewhere where no one gives a fuck. Allow "user uploads" only as long as they're Brzzer's scenes. Post a DMCA. Take them down when they bitch, then reload them once more.

Give those fuckers a taste of their own medicine.

still says this
Your account has been locked after 3 unsuccessful log in attempts.
Please contact Choker via ICQ or Phone to resolve this problem.

id=handsfree

What law are they breaking man? As long as they comply with dmca takedown what law are they breaking? Again I'm not defending anyone I'm jsut saying that they are not breaking the law if they follow DMCA takedown. What law are you refering to? If there was a clear cut law they were breaking they would have been taken down a long time ago. Current DMCA laws are a fucking joke, they enable sites to pirate and get away with it.

And for the record I have always FORBIDDEN my kids from downloading any songs online for free. It is stealing short and simple. Hacked programs? I don't fucking think so, I pay $35 for ftp pro license when there's thousands of hacked copies flying around. Pirated videos? Not in my house, if it's not on cable it doesnt get watched. 75% of the guys crying about tubes have 1000 or more priated songs on their computer they downloaded.

Do you have a history of doing chargebacks?

Or you can promote unique fetish sites. I get sales based on 'impulse buys' not "OMG, what a value".

Chocker,

You better notify the following site owners and tell them that they don't have enough movie content either, and that there is no way they can compete in today's market:

FTV: 2780 Movies
MET ART: 597 movies
TEEN DREAMS: 1624 movies
NUBILES: 4310 Movies
TWISTYS: 2930 Movies

Let's quit attacking and start showing facts.

So let me get this straight.
You feel that the above sites do not have enough content compete in todays market.

Hell, all of them combined barely have enough to equal your 10,000 movie benchmark.

Can I have some of what you're smoking? It must be some gooood sheeet!

Cheers,
BV

Of course they are stealing, but the laws are setup in such a way, that it makes impossible for them to get caught... :2 cents:

tsk tsk tsk ... ya think i wud have purchased using my GFY handle? oh boy ... sleep on :thumbsup

Old man I was exagerating of course, you on the other hand with your 50 movies don't have a chance, that's why you hate tubes so much and for some reason you think I encourage illegal tubes therefore you hate my guts. Tube sites have ruined you right? Your really creepy old man. I think I know what your deal is though, Your mad that a cab driver could do just as good if not better than you in this business. You do keep mentioning the fact that I used to drive a cab. You call me baldy and make fun of the fact that i had hair surgery. Your presonal attacks are what people do when they have no real ammo. I guess the fact that a cab driver could do better in this business than you, and in fact now that your failing and being phased out of business while that same cab driver is still chugging on, that's gotta make your self worth very low. This explains your stalking me. You spent how much time finding out how many movies each of these sites had so you could "get back at me". Wow dude your beyond creepy, get some help old geeser.