FITTY GUN SHOTS!

Nope, but I think any thing that is made to kill and only to kill should be registered with authorities as a dangerous thing to contain within society.

A knife may be a killing device but it's also made to butter my bread.

Guns are made to ... shoot, kill, destroy, insert bullets into human bodies. Nothing else. No misinterpretation there... register the suckers and make sure we all know who owns what.

When you get it stolen and its used to shoot my neighbour, it'll help the cops find the fuckers who did it.

No prob with extreme gun registration. They're pretty useless anyhow. Unless the world is overwhelmed by zombies.

:D

actually, there doesn't always have to be any violence, just a restraining order
for the first 15 days of getting a restraining order, you haven't seen a judge, you never did, and you have 15 days to get rid of your guns, then in court you can fight it but good luck, most judges will just grant it to keep from having responsibility if you go postal

yes i read bullshit from the nra too..... LOL

I have no problem with registering my guns.
I have a problem with them adding further regulation. It's not helping anything but generating more taxes and giving the government more control over your freedoms

did you not read the actual federal law that i copy and pasted?

man, there's no shame in learning. you really look foolish in this thread.

so you didn't read the sources they listed?
I agree that the NRA goes over board sometimes, but I don't like hearing bullshit and told it's fact, so I read their sources
You're more likely to die from a bad diagnoses from a doctor that get shot by a gun

You're right, their is no shame in learning
http://www.courtinfo.ca.gov/forms/fillable/dv110.pdf
look at item 21
this is a temporary restraining order from California, note the address
this can be issued by a judge without you being there and for things other than violence, like harassment, your girl friend can go into court and get this, then it will be served to you and you have about 15 days without guns before you can talk to a judge

Right to bear arms.

Aye, it'll just give the weapon smugglers more profit. Plus we need guns so the government still fears us right? We can't revolt without weapons.

Fuck no they're not!

"Among the many misdeeds of the British rule in India, history will look upon the act of depriving a whole nation of arms, as the blackest."

-- Mahatma Gandhi

"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government"

-- Thomas Jefferson, 1 Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

right to arm bears.

Obama is going to take away your guns!!! (again)

move out of california and she gets less insane about guns :)

There's a gun shop about 2miles from here that sells anything you could ever want (gun wise)

i stand corrected.

i really like you, man, but this is ridiculous. the US is one of the most violent countries and almost all civilized western countries with gun control have a much lower crime rate - speaking of homicide, no theft etc.

and to compare that with Germany 1939 is just laughable, sorry

i looked into this a bit more and whilst i'm obviously not an attorney, i can say that simply filling out the application does not mean the order will be signed. it has to be decided by a judge and that will require some sort of evidence. even then, the temp order is only good for 15 days, at which time both parties are required to appear in court so the matter can be handled more appropriately.

that being said, i am a gun owner and believe in the right to bear arms. but i do not think it helps the cause to communicate incorrect/misleading information as you are doing in this thread.

I went thru this earlier this year, I speak from experience

So I can say, nothing misleading, been there done that

if you are following all the rules associated with owning a fire arm you should have no issues.

you speak from experience when you state that the white house is going to take away our guns?

Federal law says you cannot have guns or ammunition if
you are subject to a restraining order made after a noticed hearing.

You had to have been informed and allowed to respond before this goes into effect.

On the switzerland thing. Most of the weapons possessed are military firearms for reservists but notice that they are beaten out on this list by Ukraine, Turkey, Northern Ireland and Portugal(why?). Otherwise every other European country has a lower homicide rate. I might have missed one or two but sort of shows that the gun ownership being high might not be helping.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._homicide_rate

I like you too
But other countries crime rate involving guns went up after they had there gun rights removed.


Switzerland has relatively lenient gun control for Europe, and has the third lowest
homicide rate of the top nine major European countries, and the same per capita
rate as England and Wales. When they serve in the army, they keep their rifles.

According to the U.N., as of 2005, Scotland was the most violent country in the developed world, with people three times more likely to be assaulted than in America. Violent crime there has doubled over the last 20 years. 3% of Scots had been
victims of assault compared with 1.2% in America

Scotland tops list of world's most violent countries, The Times, September 19, 2005

arm right handed bears

Agreed and everyone who compares crime rates between countries should always take in consideration the (per capita factor and not the NEWS factor) UK as gun control laws and it's crime rate is higher then the US.

I have issues, LOL

Your guns

when people think of crime in the US, they have to remember , it's got some wide open spaces and everything is reported by news agencies to get ratings, unsolved gun crimes in the UK are not reported as gun crimes. People living in the country don't hear about gun crimes, they have no gangs, they use guns for protection and hunting

Between 1997 and 1999, there were 429 murders in London, the highest two-year
figure for more than 10 years ? nearly two-thirds of those involved firearms ? in a
country that has virtually banned private firearm ownership.

You know this is wrong right? this was debunked many times even here on gfy.

edit - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._homicide_rate

just to give you an idea.

Bring on the REVOLUTION BABY, I'm ready to fight for fucking freedom that we are supposed to have.

take away guns and the # of stabbings/beatings/etc goes up

you might want to read this

Comparing crime rates between America and Britain is flawed. In America, a gun
crime is recorded as a gun crime. In Britain, a crime is only recorded when there is a final
disposition (a conviction). All unsolved gun crimes in Britain are not reported as gun
crimes, grossly undercounting the amount of gun crime there. To make matters worse,
British law enforcement has been exposed for falsifying criminal reports to create falsely
lower crime figures, in part to preserve tourism.

You and Me both. Jesus!!! Enough already Obama. Control your freaks in office.

The above was homicides which is pretty clear cut. The other big difference is they include property crime as violent where as the US does not. Seriously do a search but that whole the UK is more violent then the US was a bunch of crap.

found this but I know I read a more indepth rebuttal when it came out. - http://blogs.timeslive.co.za/hartley...n-sa-debunked/

We were talking about gun crime, not murders, kinda different there

Here's a link to something other than a blog
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...ith-crime.html

you mean like South Africa?

Yup... that's why it's almost impossible to get a legal gun in NYC, yet NYC is one of the safest big cities in the U.S. and getting safer every year. :upsidedow

git out of are country you socalest AND TAKE UR LIBRUL MEDIA VIDEO WITH U!

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My mom was in NYC last year, times square, she had a blast and felt very safe, said a lot of cops there

americans will never give up their guns... unfortunately

why would we want to?
I have some guns that were handed down from my grandfather
I have a savage 30.06 that was made in 1902
Damn thing is accurate as hell

bad news,i will add the unsafe factor in many areas,we need a gun to protect ourself and our property.

Put every fucking gun in the world into the furnace and melt them all into fucking scrap! FUCK GUNS AND THE MORONS WHO WANT TO FUCKING SHIOOT THEM. FUCK YOUR IDIOT RIGHTS! GUNS FUCKING KILL!

That's because we are overrun by trailer trash, bible thumping, beer guzzling, toothless tobacco chewing, and sister and cousin marrying rednecks who do nothing all day long but sit on that fat flabby asses listening to Rush and watching Beck on Fox TV, the idiot propaganda channel for mindless idiots.

Damn, were you molested as a child?

No, but I know of too many kids who blew their sister's, brother's, friends', or their own brains all over the wall thinking Daddy's gun was a toy. I JUST FUCKING HATE GUNS!

those kids are idiots.

And idiots deserve to die, right?

get this, i live in a country where the newly elected president was himself responsible for the planting of bombs that killed innocent people when he was a part of a revolutionary group, but today if you are found guilty of a crime and made to serve a prison sentence you can not go and legally buy and own a gun!

Got to love them loop holes

Did you read the link?

"The Home Office criticised the CBS report as "simplistic", pointing out that the average American is seven times more likely than his British counterpart to be murdered and 60 times more likely to be shot dead. A spokesman also warned against comparing statistics that were collected and collated in different ways. "For example, the US figures for violent crime only include aggravated assault and not common assault," he said."

The UK has more burglaries which is not a gun crime per se.

Kind of different. What country are you in?

and canada is fully of retards...

see how is that is without having to post proof. we can say anything we want!!!


so, please post your stats and I'll post mine, til then STFU and stick to what you know.. oh wait, maybe you were trolling.