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fmltube 12-25-2009 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 16682771)
addiction and/or addictive behaviors are a symptom of other emotional/psychological issues and have little to nothing to do with the actual substance/thing that's being abused. you don't make a choice to be raped by a parent and struggle with the emotional consequences. you don't make a choice to watch your child die. you don't make a choice to experience the trauma which, for many will lead to addiction... and you certainly will usually have little to no awareness of the fact that you actually have a substance abuse problem until very late in the game.

kinda curious why its so personal to you. sounds like something has happened a little close to home that you're having trouble dealing with yourself. its left you angry with a lot of unresolved feelings and emotions on the matter. a lot of blame. it would be a good guess that your father was an alcoholic that was never there for you

Actually yes. In my first major in college, my practicum was to counsel drug and alcohol addicts and one day, this crack addict came and told me his background about how he would be so fucked up on crack that he would "accidentally" rape his daughter who was 11 that he "confused" to be his wife and then said he doesn't feel society should blame him but his sickness. That's when I knew Psychology was not for me.

There are a lot of people in this world who have suffered abuse or led a difficult life. They all did not turn to drugs or alcohol, or even porn if you believe the media sensationalism. You are making the argument that behavior is dependent on environment and frankly, that's a cop out addicts use. Its the same song and dance when people say girls in porn must have been molested when they were younger.

My 3rd year in college, I started dating a guy who drank all the time and blamed his behavior on his drinking. One night he was drunk and tried to rape me so I grabbed his balls and squeezed as hard as I could until one of them popped and I could get away. I filed attempted rape charges against him and he sat there in the court room and told the judge "I'm a really great guy and everyone loves me but I should not be punished for what happens when I am drunk." Judge ripped him apart and gave him 2 years.

Recreational use is fine provided people can handle it and maintain control. People that become addicts can do neither.

fmltube 12-25-2009 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 16682789)
i'm guessing a victim of childhood sexual abuse as well.

Actually no. I had a wonderful childhood growing up that afforded me an education and all my basic needs met. I just have no sympathy for the weak addicts of this world.

epitome 12-25-2009 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by fmltube (Post 16682528)
no more stupid than getting hooked on the sauce to begin with. I have absolutely NO fucking sympathy for those that abuse drugs and alcohol, much less the babying people do in trying to help them. He made his own bed because I am pretty sure the guy wasn't born a hardcore drinker. I know that makes me an asshole but the best thing that could happen to all the crackheads, alcoholics, etc.... is for them to die doing exactly what got them into the mess to begin with. They have already done harm to their liver that has severely lessened their lives. Why fucking stop now?

It took awhile but you just showed your true colors.

You're pathethic. Why don't you get off the damn boards and work on getting your mylifeisfail tube or whatever it is back up?

Don't use that sorry excuse of "it's going through a major overhaul." Besides using that excuse, quit wasting your time on the board and learn the two steps it would have taken to keep it up and making you money while you overhaul it.

Also, I have no idea why you're abandoning Tube Ace in the first place. That is a great script that makes me plenty of money. The reason your site failed and you *think* you need to redesign it is because YOU are the fail.

Brujah 12-25-2009 06:50 PM

You'd have to drink 7 to 8 pints of beer per day or about 4 to 5 pints of wine. About 3 bottles of wine every day, over a long period.

Is that about right?

Pleasurepays 12-25-2009 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by fmltube (Post 16682804)
There are a lot of people in this world who have suffered abuse or led a difficult life. They all did not turn to drugs or alcohol, or even porn if you believe the media sensationalism. You are making the argument that behavior is dependent on environment and frankly, that's a cop out addicts use. Its the same song and dance when people say girls in porn must have been molested when they were younger.

no... i was simply stating that its not "a choice" if you have no conscious awareness of the choice you are making. everyone believes they are in full control until they bottom out. simple as that.


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My 3rd year in college, I started dating a guy who drank all the time and blamed his behavior on his drinking. One night he was drunk and tried to rape me so I grabbed his balls and squeezed as hard as I could until one of them popped and I could get away. I filed attempted rape charges against him and he sat there in the court room and told the judge "I'm a really great guy and everyone loves me but I should not be punished for what happens when I am drunk." Judge ripped him apart and gave him 2 years.
see... i was right. your father was an alcoholic... hence, your relationship choices. you sought out someone just like your father. someone who drank all the time, was probably emotionally and physically abusive to some degree and was barely in control of himself.

an alcoholic.

relationships are a "choice" and that "choice" is almost always, without exception, to recreate that familiar pattern that you witnessed and experienced growing up - particularly in early relationships.

relationships almost without exception, are a reflection of who you are and whats right or wrong with you and what went right or wrong in your childhood... you found a volitile relationship with an addict, and just like an addict, you had all sorts of ways of rationalizing why he was a good guy and why it was going to work... and it took an attempted rape (the emotional equivalent of an addict bottoming out) to realize you were fucking up your life.

alcohol does not make anyone do anything. alcohol simply reveals who and what we are... whats behind the mask.

... but you were in a relationship with that guy... so you already knew what was behind the mask. in fact, you knew before you met him because you were subconsciously seeking out that exact personality.

fmltube 12-25-2009 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by epitome (Post 16682837)
It took awhile but you just showed your true colors.

You're pathethic. Why don't you get off the damn boards and work on getting your mylifeisfail tube or whatever it is back up?

Don't use that sorry excuse of "it's going through a major overhaul." Besides using that excuse, quit wasting your time on the board and learn the two steps it would have taken to keep it up and making you money while you overhaul it.

Also, I have no idea why you're abandoning Tube Ace in the first place. That is a great script that makes me plenty of money. The reason your site failed and you *think* you need to redesign it is because YOU are the fail.

Nope, I am moving away from browser based tubes. You'll see. TubeAce is a great script but I want to do something different that's not being done yet with tubes.

Pleasurepays 12-25-2009 06:54 PM

an interesting thing about people who pursue psychology and that line of education/career path... its always seemed to me to be because they are usually struggling with dealing with and trying to understand their own pain and emotional problems.

fmltube 12-25-2009 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 16682844)
no... i was simply stating that its not "a choice" if you have no conscious awareness of the choice you are making. everyone believes they are in full control until they bottom out. simple as that.




see... i was right. your father was an alcoholic... hence, your relationship choices. you sought out someone just like your father. someone who drank all the time, was probably emotionally and physically abusive to some degree and was barely in control of himself.

an alcoholic.

relationships are a "choice" and that "choice" is almost always, without exception, to recreate that familiar pattern that you witnessed and experienced growing up - particularly in early relationships.

relationships almost without exception, are a reflection of who you are and whats right or wrong with you and what went right or wrong in your childhood... you found a volitile relationship with an addict, and just like an addict, you had all sorts of ways of rationalizing why he was a good guy and why it was going to work... and it took an attempted rape (the emotional equivalent of an addict bottoming out) to realize you were fucking up your life.

alcohol does not make anyone do anything. alcohol simply reveals who and what we are... whats behind the mask.

... but you were in a relationship with that guy... so you already knew what was behind the mask. in fact, you knew before you met him because you were subconsciously seeking out that exact personality.

You really believe your own bullshit don't you? My father never drank a day in his life nor did my mother. But by using their methodology, you're Mom must be a whore and fuck on film since you ended up in porn since its the pattern you are most used to right?

fmltube 12-25-2009 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 16682853)
an interesting thing about people who pursue psychology and that line of education/career path... its always seemed to me to be because they are usually struggling with dealing with and trying to understand their own pain and emotional problems.

Kind of a blanket assumption? Would that be fair to say all in porn are closet pedos and love to film children as the media portrays?

Pleasurepays 12-25-2009 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by fmltube (Post 16682857)
You really believe your own bullshit don't you? My father never drank a day in his life nor did my mother. But by using their methodology, you're Mom must be a whore and fuck on film since you ended up in porn since its the pattern you are most used to right?

there is something there... whether you are ready to admit it or not. but i don't expect you to open up on a porn forum in our first session. for the most part, i just want to touch on your pain a little to get a sense for when you might be ready and capable of digging a little deeper so we can begin to confront these things and help you work through them.

you see... your anger, your bitterness, your education/career and relationship choices (the drunk rapist) aren't just random coincidence.. they are a common pattern. we'll get into this in the next session.

Pleasurepays 12-25-2009 07:05 PM

50 Survivors of addiction who can't pay their hosting bill.

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Originally Posted by fmltube (Post 16682862)
Kind of a blanket assumption? Would that be fair to say all in porn are closet pedos and love to film children as the media portrays?

i know this is painful for you. i understand the hurt you feel. i know you're going to say a lot of irrational things as you are confronted with your true problems and a lot of feelings are going to come out that are going to be intense and tough to deal with.

we all love you here and we want to help you.

chupachups 12-25-2009 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by quiet (Post 16682749)
on benzodiazapine [sic?].

Make damn sure he doesnt get hooked on those instead.
Anyways, good luck :)

fmltube 12-25-2009 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by chupachups (Post 16682879)
Make damn sure he doesnt get hooked on those instead.
Anyways, good luck :)

Most addicts trade one addiction for another.

epitome 12-25-2009 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by fmltube (Post 16682847)
Nope, I am moving away from browser based tubes. You'll see. TubeAce is a great script but I want to do something different that's not being done yet with tubes.

OK, great! Your site is down why? Like I said, you should have read a book about keeping a site up while re-developing it ... that way you could have kept making money on that tube of yours. Oh, that's right, you're weren't making any money because you do not know the first thing about traffic.

You can build the greatest tool in the world, but if you cannot get people to it, is it really the greatest?

Every minute spent knocking on people who are at their lowest should be spent on learning how to be a webmaster.

Here's the funny thing...

I quit crystal meth 7 1/2 years ago. It appears that I am further along than you in the industry and I'd be willing to bet in life, too. That makes your statements about addiction worthless ... unless you like being inferior to an addict?

To think I used to defend you. I take it all back.

fmltube 12-25-2009 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by epitome (Post 16683034)
OK, great! Your site is down why? Like I said, you should have read a book about keeping a site up while re-developing it ... that way you could have kept making money on that tube of yours. Oh, that's right, you're weren't making any money because you do not know the first thing about traffic.

You can build the greatest tool in the world, but if you cannot get people to it, is it really the greatest?

Every minute spent knocking on people who are at their lowest should be spent on learning how to be a webmaster.

Here's the funny thing...

I quit crystal meth 7 1/2 years ago. It appears that I am further along than you in the industry and I'd be willing to bet in life, too. That makes your statements about addiction worthless ... unless you like being inferior to an addict?

To think I used to defend you. I take it all back.

Who says I am inferior? In adult? Big fucking deal. I work in mainstream and have produced work that has been seen more than most adult producers. Working with brilliant directors like Dirk Hilger allowed me to grow my skills that can be applicable in either industry. Traffic doesn't mean shit if those eyeballs don't buy your product or support your ads.

baddog 12-25-2009 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by fmltube (Post 16682847)
Nope, I am moving away from browser based tubes. You'll see. TubeAce is a great script but I want to do something different that's not being done yet with tubes.

I just wanted to say that you are a stupid fucking cunt, no matter what gender you are. :2 cents::2 cents:

fmltube 12-25-2009 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 16683231)
I just wanted to say that you are a stupid fucking cunt, no matter what gender you are. :2 cents::2 cents:

Dont remember asking for your opinion but that sure didn't stop you from giving it now did it orphan..I mean baddog?

baddog 12-25-2009 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by fmltube (Post 16683243)
Dont remember asking for your opinion but that sure didn't stop you from giving it now did it orphan..I mean baddog?

Orphan? Really? I thought you were some kind of writer. If so, I would expect that you at least have some concept of what basic words mean.

Like I said, you are one stupid cunt.

fmltube 12-25-2009 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 16683254)
Orphan? Really? I thought you were some kind of writer. If so, I would expect that you at least have some concept of what basic words mean.

Like I said, you are one stupid cunt.

You know what I am thinking so there is no need for me to take it there ....

baddog 12-25-2009 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by fmltube (Post 16683272)
You know what I am thinking so there is no need for me to take it there ....

Knock yourself out, bitch. Bring it.


Idiot.

fmltube 12-25-2009 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 16683274)
Knock yourself out, bitch. Bring it.


Idiot.

Seriously dude, go bury your Mom or visit her grave or something. You inserted your opinion but chastise me for doing the same.

baddog 12-25-2009 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by fmltube (Post 16683276)
Seriously dude, go bury your Mom or visit her grave or something. You inserted your opinion but chastise me for doing the same.

Sorry. No, actually my comment had nothing to do with this thread. I apologize if you misunderstood.

fmltube 12-25-2009 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 16683295)
Sorry. No, actually my comment had nothing to do with this thread. I apologize if you misunderstood.

Then please clarify what exactly you are referring to? About the tube thing?

baddog 12-25-2009 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by fmltube (Post 16683297)
Then please clarify what exactly you are referring to? About the tube thing?

Sure. Pick a topic, you come off as an idiot in any I have read.

uno 12-25-2009 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by chupachups (Post 16682879)
Make damn sure he doesnt get hooked on those instead.
Anyways, good luck :)

Benzos and alcohol are really only the 2 types of withdrawal you can actually die from barring preexisting conditions or other mitigating factors.

fmltube 12-25-2009 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 16683299)
Sure. Pick a topic, you come off as an idiot in any I have read.

Obviously you don't read much but hey, stay golden Pony Boy.

xxxdesign-net 12-25-2009 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by fmltube (Post 16682528)
no more stupid than getting hooked on the sauce to begin with. I have absolutely NO fucking sympathy for those that abuse drugs and alcohol, much less the babying people do in trying to help them. He made his own bed because I am pretty sure the guy wasn't born a hardcore drinker. I know that makes me an asshole but the best thing that could happen to all the crackheads, alcoholics, etc.... is for them to die doing exactly what got them into the mess to begin with. They have already done harm to their liver that has severely lessened their lives. Why fucking stop now?

seek help

Brad Mitchell 12-28-2009 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by fmltube (Post 16682528)
no more stupid than getting hooked on the sauce to begin with. I have absolutely NO fucking sympathy for those that abuse drugs and alcohol, much less the babying people do in trying to help them. He made his own bed because I am pretty sure the guy wasn't born a hardcore drinker. I know that makes me an asshole but the best thing that could happen to all the crackheads, alcoholics, etc.... is for them to die doing exactly what got them into the mess to begin with. They have already done harm to their liver that has severely lessened their lives. Why fucking stop now?


You're a fool.


Here's some more from my friend, he asked me to post:

"You don't understand addiction. I didn't ever decide to become addicted to drink.
I personally believe their are 3 types of people in this world when it comes to drink:
1) The tee total person who has no intention on ever drinking.
2) The social drinker who has the ability to stop whenever they want.
3) The addict. The person who changes after a drink and cant stop no matter what they do.

The problem is you don't know if you are an addict until you have one drink and by that stage you have just fucked yourself. Joe Bidden, the Vice President, knows that alcoholism runs in his family and hence has never had a drink in his life. Wise man.

If I could turn back the hands of time to when I first got drunk with my friends in the park at age 14 I would never have touched the stuff knowing what I know now.

The bottom of the line is this you don't know that you have a problem until it is to late.

The great part about the UK and Canada is that we have universal health care which picked me up and sorted me out for free. I now have a pretty good company paying a nice sum in tax and National Insurance to help others.

Quote this as well -
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showpo...6&postcount=24

I was doing one to two bottles of vodka a day and cocaine. It is the harder drinks that cause DTs as beer you tend to throw up. Alcohol is one of the most physically addictive drugs in the world. Cocaine is just mentally addictive.

Anon"


And as for myself.. I am fortunate to have not had a substance abuse problem but it's definitely a slippery slope after growing up with alcoholism on both sides of the family. I did a week at Betty Ford in the 'friends and family' program to support a loved one and learned a tremendous amount there.

Brad

Agent 488 12-28-2009 09:25 AM

brad. don't even waste your time on a response. it's a man pretending to be a woman who is also pretending to to be in adult. really pathetic.

not even worth your time.

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Originally Posted by Brad Mitchell (Post 16688424)
You're a fool.


Here's some more from my friend, he asked me to post:

"You don't understand addiction. I didn't ever decide to become addicted to drink.
I personally believe their are 3 types of people in this world when it comes to drink:
1) The tee total person who has no intention on ever drinking.
2) The social drinker who has the ability to stop whenever they want.
3) The addict. The person who changes after a drink and cant stop no matter what they do.

The problem is you don't know if you are an addict until you have one drink and by that stage you have just fucked yourself. Joe Bidden, the Vice President, knows that alcoholism runs in his family and hence has never had a drink in his life. Wise man.

If I could turn back the hands of time to when I first got drunk with my friends in the park at age 14 I would never have touched the stuff knowing what I know now.

The bottom of the line is this you don't know that you have a problem until it is to late.

The great part about the UK and Canada is that we have universal health care which picked me up and sorted me out for free. I now have a pretty good company paying a nice sum in tax and National Insurance to help others.

Quote this as well -
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showpo...6&postcount=24

I was doing one to two bottles of vodka a day and cocaine. It is the harder drinks that cause DTs as beer you tend to throw up. Alcohol is one of the most physically addictive drugs in the world. Cocaine is just mentally addictive.

Anon"


And as for myself.. I am fortunate to have not had a substance abuse problem but it's definitely a slippery slope after growing up with alcoholism on both sides of the family. I did a week at Betty Ford in the 'friends and family' program to support a loved one and learned a tremendous amount there.

Brad


american pervert 12-28-2009 09:32 AM

That's a shitty situation. Never had to deal with it and I hope I never have to, but I did go to AA meetings and those were the worst for me. Mainly because I was forced to go. And as soon as I left I would go on a bender... Sitting around with a bunch of drunks feeling sorry for themselves wasn't what I needed to make me stop being a fuck up. Jail did that.

Peter Romero 12-28-2009 11:51 AM

No-one can help an alcoholic except another alcoholic. But Canada has some of the best AA Groups in the world. And the best part about it is - they're free! Don't listen to anyone giving you advice besides an alcoholic. Even doctors have given up on alcoholics but they can help with medical withdrawl. And don't listen to your cuz telling you wha type of help he is choosing to get - the only requirement for AA Membership is a desire to stop drinking. Period. You don't have to believe in God either, plenty of athiests & agnostics in AA. Anyways, I've said too much on a public forum about this - contact me if you still need help.

Tom_PM 12-28-2009 11:57 AM

I hope he's feeling better and getting well, quiet. Good luck!

american pervert 12-28-2009 12:16 PM

anyone who thinks AA actually has a success rate needs to watch penn and teller' bullshit episode on it.

http://www.surfthechannel.com/video/2749/48391.html

BlackCrayon 12-28-2009 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by fmltube (Post 16683302)
Obviously you don't read much but hey, stay golden Pony Boy.

your personality has massive amounts of fail. failure is a good topic for you to build a site around. :thumbsup


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