Originally Posted by Zuzana Designs
(Post 16696380)
I got the same excuse from this person... Read the story below off my personal message board.. He seems to really be unstable and drunk for the new years calling me a whore and have some problems tonight.
What I Went Through Below from a different thread....
I saw you all over the board looking for work so I thought I would give you a logo for a PERSONAL project back in March. It was for my mainstream stuff for ME, and not for a client, so I could test you out to see how you were. Well, you went MIA for months on end, constantly giving excuses of family problems, until I finally got a logo design out that was absolutely horrible. I asked you for revisions and then you came to me asking for payment because you needed to pay hosting. All I ever got was excuse after excuse after excuse after that.
10-09-2009 = Consider it done before sunday.
10-14-2009 (Tuesday) = Hey Sarah sorry, I am currently working on it, I will post it here when done.
this is when I got a logo that looked like a recycling logo (not at all what I wanted). That same day I asked for some revisions
10-15-2009 = Hi Sarah, I will be comming up with a total new design tomorrow afternoon.
Can I ask you a favor though? I need to pay for my hosting and I just cashed my epassporte last week (forget this bill). Could you send me the $150.00 for the logo in advance? Don't worry I will make it work.
I paid $75 on 10-15-2009
10-16-2009 (me) = when do you think you'll have a few more to look at?
10-17-2009 (me) = Please let me know when you think you will have some more for me to look at.
10-19-2009 (AdultCreation) = Hi Sarah - I was out in the weekend. I am working on the new design as I write this message. Should be soon!
10-21-2009 (me) = Still waiting to see these.
10-22-2009 (AdultCreation) = Arghhhhh Sarah so sorry. Tomorrow you will have it sure thing.
still nothing.....
10-22-2009 (me)= This is getting to be completely unacceptable. I paid you 9 days ago and the excuses are getting really old. Send over the logos you should have already completed by now or send back the $75 I sent you
10-25-2009 (me) = Marvin, this is over. I am so dissatisfied with this whole process. You do realize how long it's been since I gave you money, right? The first logo you gave me was a recycling logo and nowhere in line with what I need. I see that you came to the board and viewed this thread and didn't even have the decency to respond to it. I don't want to continue with, since apparently you have no intention of providing what I paid you for. Please let me know as soon as my $75 has been returned
10-26-2009 (AdultCreation) = Sarah, I am sorry to have pushed your patience. I am always comming through, but I had a few personal problems (sickness) in my family which I do not wish to discuss, however they influenced my working schedule by much.
then he threw me a logo in which I said:
10-26-2009 (me) = I understand everyone has problems, but you told me 1 day on the 22nd and it's now the 26th. Even before that, I've had to push and push and push to see any kind of progress and each time, I'm met with a "I'm working on it" type excuse. In all honesty, this logo looks like it took you about 5 minutes and I don't think it's at all a representation of what you have in your portfolio. Regardless, as I said yesterday I'm not interested in working with you any further and would like to get a refund. No hard feelings, but I'm a designer and I know how long things take to get done. I just didn't have the time to do this myself and thought it would be good trial to pass you some work, but I'm just not impressed at all with the result or the time it's taken. I hope everything gets better with your family
10-28-2009 (me) = Please get in touch with me regarding my posts
10-30-2009 (me) = Hello? I would appreciate atleast a response to this. Just because you have problems doesn't excuse your lack of work before the incident and completely ignoring it now
11-02-2009 (me) = Had you been on time with your work prior to your family incident, I would have been much more understanding. You've been stringing me along since before you disappeared. It's a really good thing I didn't prepay you in full and this is a prime example of why I never prepay anyone that I haven't worked with before. Because here you sit with my money, and I don't have a usable logo and you weren't on time or reliable about any of it. The very first thing you said was "consider it done on Sunday" and then didn't post anything until that Wednesday, so this has been an issue since the beginning. Remember when I gave you this back in March? Then I came to you in May and you said you'd get them done in the next few days. Then you came back in July and said you were "busy with personal things". Then you came back in August saying you were having a "bad period of time". I can't keep this going on for months and months with this. Now it's because of family problems. Apparently this is an ongoing problem and I shouldn't have given you half down in the first place.
That's fine that your family comes first before your business. But it doesn't come before my business, especially when you give me no idication of what's going on. If you are going to ignore your work, that fine...but you forfeit any right to be upset or expect anything from the people who have been waiting on you while you made that decision. And those people you keep waiting have every right to expect a refund while you ignored them.
Why is it that you would be upset about your lost time, when it's YOU that put yourself in that situation? How about my lost time as your paying client that was relying on you to do my personal logo? It's not like you were doing exactly what you should have been doing and I just backed out. You left me hanging for days on end, completely ignoring me.
I told you on the 25th that I didn't want you to do this anymore. If you decided that day to try and push something out so you didn't have to give a refund, then I'm sorry. I didn't ask you to do that. I am so dissatisfied with how this was handled, with your time management, and with the empty promises of preview dates. That's not how I like to do business. I'm very unhappy since March when I originally gave you this and I don't want you to do it and I want a refund.
and it's been a losing battle ever since. I have not been able to get a single response from him and even gave him the option of trying out another personal logo, all of which was ignored until I posted in another thread. Then he suddenly wrote me on ICQ pissed off that I posted in the first place and saying that he does "design stuff for Pierre (worldsex), Richard (worldsex), Patrick (thehun)" and that all of this is just beer money to him.
Trying to throw out a comment that I'm outsourcing something to him when I actually hired him to work on a personal logo is a really sad attempt to lash out when he's backed into a corner. What's more, after making that comment he wrote asking if I wanted him to do another logo because "I never want to fight believe me."
My only reason for posting in this thread in the first place was because I got fucked on this project, and it seems that he's fucked over countless other people in attempts to get his "beer money" and I shouldn't have to hold back from saying anything about it
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