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DaddyHalbucks 01-02-2010 12:24 AM

51 alleged holiday schemes

Turboface 01-02-2010 12:42 AM

Pay up ASSHOLE!

Do you think I am EVER going to go away?

Wake up and PAY UP!

kmanrox 01-02-2010 12:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turboface (Post 16701499)
Pay up ASSHOLE!

Do you think I am EVER going to go away?

Wake up and PAY UP!

oh it's definitely never going to go away... but the $2400+ u tried to steal has gone away.. right back to the ppl's cards plus i get dinged for all the refund fees :thumbsup

Vjo 01-02-2010 01:10 AM

Actually had one of my cr card numbers used to buy a membership to an adult site. Don't know how they got it but seen it in my online statement along with the number of the billing company. Called em, no problem, seemed routine.. chargeback.

So yeah it is pretty easy for a prog owner to see a few of these and it doesnt look too good for the affil.

Turboface 01-02-2010 01:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kmanrox (Post 16701519)
oh it's definitely never going to go away... but the $2400+ u tried to steal has gone away

Oh, I bet it has. I hope you and Moses had a great holiday, at our expense.

Fuck you! Carma is going to catch up with you sooner than later, I'll see to it.

kmanrox 01-02-2010 01:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turboface (Post 16701560)
Oh, I bet it has. I hope you and Moses had a great holiday, at our expense.

Fuck you! Carma is going to catch up with you sooner than later, I'll see to it.

normally i'd say how much fun i had with your $2400 but seeing as i credited it back, incurring not only refund fees but also crazy CB fees i'd be lying...

that being said i will be spending $2400 out of my own pocket this weekend in southern thailand on holiday's dinners and i'll think about the lowercase carder newb who thought we wouldnt catch him :thumbsup

xxxdvdbuy 01-02-2010 01:33 AM

You should pay him the money for his sign ups and cancel his account. Keeping his account open really makes his case a lot stronger against you.

kmanrox 01-02-2010 01:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxdvdbuy (Post 16701575)
You should pay him the money for his sign ups and cancel his account. Keeping his account open really makes his case a lot stronger against you.

as i mentioned earlier.. this was what i had originally proposed pending the details from accounting which turboscam couldnt wait for.. he let the threats fly impatiently prompting me to have to look into this personally only to come up with the same conclusion as accounting gave me when i asked them about turbo's payouts... he tried to get us.. plain and simple... we canceled his account permanently earlier and he will not be getting payment, period.

unforunately, fraudulent activity is something we have to deal with on a daily basis and having such a high PPS fraudsters are attracted to programs like ours... usually the fraudsters are a little smarter than Turboface / TurboAngel unfortunately but our team screens joins vigorously thwarting a vast majority of the fraudulent activity.

MoreMagic 01-02-2010 02:12 AM

at least proof you send that money back, until now you showed nothing then else then a "dirty d" mouth.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kmanrox (Post 16701566)
normally i'd say how much fun i had with your $2400 but seeing as i credited it back, incurring not only refund fees but also crazy CB fees i'd be lying...

that being said i will be spending $2400 out of my own pocket this weekend in southern thailand on holiday's dinners and i'll think about the lowercase carder newb who thought we wouldnt catch him :thumbsup


Tjeezers 01-02-2010 03:35 AM

I got D`ed....
new slogan for 2010.
Someone did the DirtyD on me.,

kmanrox 01-02-2010 04:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tjeezers (Post 16701650)
I got D`ed....
new slogan for 2010.
Someone did the DirtyD on me.,

hellz yes! i'll take 2!

CamTraffic 01-02-2010 09:40 AM

Kman, you never showed any proof to anyone that there was some fraud going on, why not?
post some screen shot...

also, you seem to be using content that 's not yours...
http://www.gfy.com/16700748-post30.html
is that true?

Turboface 01-02-2010 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tjeezers (Post 16701650)
I got D`ed....
new slogan for 2010.
Someone did the DirtyD on me.,

You guys think the DirtyD drama thread was big. That was only for $477.

DirtyD eventually did the right thing, as KManrox is going to do.

:2 cents:

kmanrox 01-02-2010 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turboface (Post 16702006)
You guys think the DirtyD drama thread was big. That was only for $477.

DirtyD eventually did the right thing, as KManrox is going to do.

:2 cents:

the only thing you're going to get other than what's obviously happened, banned from the industry, is some suits with badges at your door, slick. :thumbsup

JadaY 01-02-2010 09:56 AM

Fuck off turboscam

You've and your cunt g/f were proven shady asshole long time ago.

JadaY 01-02-2010 10:26 AM

http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/3446/turbofuck.gif

We get paid every pay period like clockwork x20 the money they supposedly 'owe' you.

$2400 ? :1orglaugh Get the fuck out of here with your change.

Go make a "collecting donations for our burnt down trailer" thread. Someone might buy into it.

CamTraffic 01-02-2010 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CamTraffic (Post 16701999)
Kman, you never showed any proof to anyone that there was some fraud going on, why not?
post some screen shot...

also, you seem to be using content that 's not yours...
http://www.gfy.com/16700748-post30.html
is that true?

anyone? hello?

Bryan G 01-02-2010 10:49 AM

Not taking sides here but I think I remember some threads a while back regarding turbo face and his gf/Wife scamming people. Again not making any accusations, just something rings a bell here.

I apologize if I'm wrong

datatank 01-02-2010 11:16 AM

Who owns Rehab Dollas?

Jdoughs 01-02-2010 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JadaY (Post 16702086)
http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/3446/turbofuck.gif

We get paid every pay period like clockwork x20 the money they supposedly 'owe' you.

$2400 ? :1orglaugh Get the fuck out of here with your change.

Go make a "collecting donations for our burnt down trailer" thread. Someone might buy into it.

Why don't the dates make sense?

Looks like you fucked up.

JadaY 01-02-2010 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jdoughs (Post 16702199)
Why don't the dates make sense?

Looks like you fucked up.

There is a few weeks wait time after pay period end.

(to catch people like Turbo Family)

Tjeezers 01-02-2010 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turboface (Post 16702006)
You guys think the DirtyD drama thread was big. That was only for $477.

DirtyD eventually did the right thing, as KManrox is going to do.

:2 cents:



I dont know bro... I see your thread being bumped where you seem to go a long way back. I gave you the benefit of the doubt begin this morning, but I am happy I did not chose your side as webmaster, cause you work ethics are way different then mines.
I am still working with clients from 2001, and they never complained. The only complain you see about me in general on all the boards is me being an proud asshole on the fact I uphold a reputation since the first day I walked in without scamming or twisting the facts.

I dont chose party for KMan also, cause I have not seen yet the prove of those fake accounts. But perhaps KMan lets you make a ass out of yourself in public and he will post them tomorrow.

TurboAngel 01-02-2010 03:07 PM

Bummmmmp, where's the proof from rehab?

fris 01-02-2010 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turboface (Post 16702006)
You guys think the DirtyD drama thread was big. That was only for $477.

DirtyD eventually did the right thing, as KManrox is going to do.

:2 cents:

ya right, that will never happen not in this lifetime.

NetHorse 01-02-2010 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jdoughs (Post 16702199)
Why don't the dates make sense?

Looks like you fucked up.

That's how it looks on mine too..:2 cents:

NetHorse 01-02-2010 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turboface (Post 16702006)
You guys think the DirtyD drama thread was big. That was only for $477.

DirtyD eventually did the right thing, as KManrox is going to do.

:2 cents:

That's different man, DirtyD admitted money was owed but he didn't want to pay for a bullshit reason that wasn't even in his TOS. Kman is stating FRAUD, which IMO, is a serious accusation. Someone is lying, but neither of you is posting proof one way or the other. Don't expect anyone to take sides without more information / proof being posted here.

Turboface 01-02-2010 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NetHorse (Post 16702997)
Don't expect anyone to take sides without more information / proof being posted here.

I have shown my cards. I posted a screen shot of my stats and explained the entire situation. We're all waiting to see proof from KMan showing that all my sales were all from women with similar logins. He has not produced any such proof, nor will he.

:2 cents:

pr0 01-02-2010 06:39 PM

You guys can say what you want about turboface, but one thing he is NOT is a carder....& the one thing he would never do, is risk his freedom by using stolen cc's.

I suggest you do a look up on the ip's used to sign up/do a full investigation & contact the local authorities if you think fraud was involved & find the REAL person responsible if such an act took place.

Having known turboface for many many years....IF he were to conduct such a scam (which he would not have, I've seen his work), he certainly would not have done it with all female cards, he's far too intelligent (and has too much background in automation/AI etc) to do something so stupid. 2 cents:

I would suggest 3 possibilities....#1- this is all a big misunderstanding between both of you.... #2 - the fact that all females signed up was a coincidence, or #3- someone was trying to set him or you up

I suggest you guys come together & make some serious amends because this has gotten way out of hand & the personal bullshit is uncalled for on both sides.

brand0n 01-02-2010 06:49 PM

sup pr0. apprently we had sex and u gave me 25 bucks for it.

question.

was it good, i mean, id like to know.
b

TurboAngel 01-02-2010 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pr0 (Post 16703176)
You guys can say what you want about turboface, but one thing he is NOT is a carder....& the one thing he would never do, is risk his freedom by using stolen cc's.

I suggest you do a look up on the ip's used to sign up/do a full investigation & contact the local authorities if you think fraud was involved & find the REAL person responsible if such an act took place.

Having known turboface for many many years....IF he were to conduct such a scam (which he would not have, I've seen his work), he certainly would not have done it with all female cards, he's far too intelligent (and has too much background in automation/AI etc) to do something so stupid. 2 cents:

I would suggest 3 possibilities....#1- this is all a big misunderstanding between both of you.... #2 - the fact that all females signed up was a coincidence, or #3- someone was trying to set him or you up

I suggest you guys come together & make some serious amends because this has gotten way out of hand & the personal bullshit is uncalled for on both sides.

:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

Tjeezers 01-02-2010 07:23 PM

#3- someone was trying to set him or you up...

with his history on GFY, yeah .. possible....
I would keep that option open for sure....

MVT 01-02-2010 07:38 PM

turboangel, please tell me what you do... aside from suck dick to whatever hosting company you fly in your sig.

your a waste of space..

JadaY 01-02-2010 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MVT (Post 16703283)
turboangel, please tell me what you do...

allow me:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turboface
No, but the way she's going, that's exactly what's going to happen.

From her violently mood swings, to her hard drug binges, to her repeated suicide attempts, I question why I am with her till this day.

Ann isn't even a webmaster, she just posts on her because she's bored and has nothing to do except watch tv (she doesn't have to get a job, thanks to me) and she knows of the board because of me. She can't do much more than surf, post, and copy & paste.

I see she started this thread yesterday, which was one of her bad days. She's been fine today and I am sure she regrets making this thread now. That's how she is, like day and night, one day she's ok, the next I could be dealing with the Exorcist. Usually the two weeks after she gets her period she's bad, but the two weeks before, she's worse.

By all means if any of you guys want this ticking timebomb, feel free.

:2 cents:

fris 01-02-2010 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pr0 (Post 16703176)
You guys can say what you want about turboface, but one thing he is NOT is a carder....& the one thing he would never do, is risk his freedom by using stolen cc's.

I suggest you do a look up on the ip's used to sign up/do a full investigation & contact the local authorities if you think fraud was involved & find the REAL person responsible if such an act took place.

Having known turboface for many many years....IF he were to conduct such a scam (which he would not have, I've seen his work), he certainly would not have done it with all female cards, he's far too intelligent (and has too much background in automation/AI etc) to do something so stupid. 2 cents:

I would suggest 3 possibilities....#1- this is all a big misunderstanding between both of you.... #2 - the fact that all females signed up was a coincidence, or #3- someone was trying to set him or you up

I suggest you guys come together & make some serious amends because this has gotten way out of hand & the personal bullshit is uncalled for on both sides.

Personally I dont think he carded signups himself, but if you look at the site he used for promo, it has been spammed around 1000's of comments, from adult, to pills, to mainstream sites, so odds are if someone signs up from an automatic spammed comment, the quality of traffic is going to be very low and thus result in a chargeback. which is what I think may have happened, if it was your everyday tgp/mgp/blog traffic the traffic is less likely to be a chargeback.

the 40% is what likely flagged the account, he may have some legit signups, who knows, but spamming sites in comments results in a very likely situation.

So even *if* money is owed, it wouldnt be the full amount since the high chargeback rate, but most programs will just ban your account if you have that high of a cb rate, and rather not deal with the hassle.

:2 cents:

kmanrox 01-02-2010 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fris (Post 16703345)
Personally I dont think he carded signups himself, but if you look at the site he used for promo, it has been spammed around 1000's of comments, from adult, to pills, to mainstream sites, so odds are if someone signs up from an automatic spammed comment, the quality of traffic is going to be very low and thus result in a chargeback. which is what I think may have happened, if it was your everyday tgp/mgp/blog traffic the traffic is less likely to be a chargeback.

the 40% is what likely flagged the account, he may have some legit signups, who knows, but spamming sites in comments results in a very likely situation.

So even *if* money is owed, it wouldnt be the full amount since the high chargeback rate, but most programs will just ban your account if you have that high of a cb rate, and rather not deal with the hassle.

:2 cents:

lest we not forget his claims of using only 1 landing page...

it was registered 2 weeks after he started sending traffic lol

JadaY 01-02-2010 08:24 PM

here is just one of the places he spammed his site at: http://watchcelebsextapes.com

99.9% of affiliate programs nowadays terminate you right away for spam.

TDF 01-02-2010 08:29 PM

jon and kate sextape???






























im out everyone have a good night

TurboAngel 01-02-2010 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TDF (Post 16703381)
jon and kate sextape???






























im out everyone have a good night

Goodnight.

Nicky 01-02-2010 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pr0 (Post 16703176)
You guys can say what you want about turboface, but one thing he is NOT is a carder....& the one thing he would never do, is risk his freedom by using stolen cc's.

I suggest you do a look up on the ip's used to sign up/do a full investigation & contact the local authorities if you think fraud was involved & find the REAL person responsible if such an act took place.

Having known turboface for many many years....IF he were to conduct such a scam (which he would not have, I've seen his work), he certainly would not have done it with all female cards, he's far too intelligent (and has too much background in automation/AI etc) to do something so stupid. 2 cents:

I would suggest 3 possibilities....#1- this is all a big misunderstanding between both of you.... #2 - the fact that all females signed up was a coincidence, or #3- someone was trying to set him or you up

I suggest you guys come together & make some serious amends because this has gotten way out of hand & the personal bullshit is uncalled for on both sides.

Much love for ya pr0, hope you are doing well bro. Something fishy is going on here though I tell you.

Turboface 01-02-2010 11:12 PM

Some of you guys really need a reality check, so here it is.

I pushed Rehab Dollars for the last month and a half without receiving a single payment, yet my account has never been canceled there, they were string me along pretending that were going to pay us, but is plain to see they never had any intention of paying.

Also, most all of the signups I got are not even a month old, so they haven't even had a chance to rebill yet. From the only screenshot they have posted so far, of all the 'carded' signups I sent them, there have already been two rebills. How does that happen?

I went with the $40 PPS with them. If I would have realized that his sites were just full of stolen content and false promises to the surfer, I never would have even sent them any traffic at all.

Pay up dickhead.

:)


http://uscitychat.com/images/payus.jpg

GrouchyAdmin 01-02-2010 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 16699891)
you should use male and female names and vary the logins next time. chalk it up as a lesson learned.

Sounds like someone has insider knowledge about this whole ordeal. http://www.gofuckyourself.com/images/icons/twocents.gif

Moses G 01-02-2010 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turboface (Post 16703641)
Also, most all of the signups I got are not even a month old, so they haven't even had a chance to rebill yet. From the only screenshot they have posted so far, of all the 'carded' signups I sent them, there have already been two rebills. How does that happen?

trial -> upgrade to full membership = rebill...

you wonder how upgrades happen, while trying to pretend your traffic is legit? :1orglaugh

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turboface (Post 16703641)
I went with the $40 PPS with them. If I would have realized that his sites were just full of stolen content and false promises to the surfer, I never would have even sent them any traffic at all.

:1orglaugh

Have a great weekend!

GrouchyAdmin 01-02-2010 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turboface (Post 16703641)
If I would have realized that his sites were just full of stolen content and false promises to the surfer, I never would have even sent them any traffic at all.

Many would say the same about your failed ad network. Not a year's gone by without seeing new shit from you two, and I'm tired of it. Just self-ban yourself from life already.

SleazyDream 01-02-2010 11:33 PM

i'm kinda getting tired of reading this...........

i've burned and been burned - all depends on perspective... move on with your life

Turboface 01-02-2010 11:37 PM

Moses, you asshats don't have a leg to stand on.

Between all the threads about this, KManrox has being exposed for the scammer that he is (and has been) and more shit is coming to the surface by the moment, your lack of providing proof of the accusations towards me, and all the talk about your shady program full of stolen content and false promises to surfers.

I don't how many fake nicks you guys post under or how many butt buddies you have attempting to protect you, it doesn't matter. If you think I will ever let you crooks get away with scamming us, you are in for a rough ride that will never end.

:2 cents:

GrouchyAdmin 01-02-2010 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turboface (Post 16703691)
Moses, you asshats don't have a leg to stand on.

Between all the threads about this, KManrox has being exposed for the scammer that he is (and has been) and more shit is coming to the surface by the moment, your lack of providing proof of the accusations towards me, and all the talk about your shady program full of stolen content and false promises to surfers.

I don't how many fake nicks you guys post under or how many butt buddies you have attempting to protect you, it doesn't matter. If you think I will ever let you crooks get away with scamming us, you are in for a rough ride that will never end.

:2 cents:

I don't know these guys from Sunday, but in the last four years I'd be willing to state my opinion of you is much lower than mine of them.

Ergo: You're a sack of shit.

lazycash 01-03-2010 12:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fris (Post 16703345)
Personally I dont think he carded signups himself, but if you look at the site he used for promo, it has been spammed around 1000's of comments, from adult, to pills, to mainstream sites, so odds are if someone signs up from an automatic spammed comment, the quality of traffic is going to be very low and thus result in a chargeback. which is what I think may have happened, if it was your everyday tgp/mgp/blog traffic the traffic is less likely to be a chargeback.

the 40% is what likely flagged the account, he may have some legit signups, who knows, but spamming sites in comments results in a very likely situation.

So even *if* money is owed, it wouldnt be the full amount since the high chargeback rate, but most programs will just ban your account if you have that high of a cb rate, and rather not deal with the hassle.

:2 cents:

After reading everything, this is exactly what I think happened also. I don't think TF carded, just think the promotion was probably shady and a majority of the traffic felt duped after signing up. I'm clueless on celeb niche ratios and cb %, but I have to believe this has happened plenty in the past with some affiliates because of all of the bullshit celeb promo pages I've seen.

Its no different than the barrage of Phillipine chat spammers over the last two years and all of the sponsors that have suspended them because of their high cb %. They over hype/promise to the surfer and then disappear after he signs up for a trial, well of course most of them are going to feel duped and chargeback.

xxxdvdbuy 01-03-2010 12:38 AM

What I'd like to know is, out of all the CB's the program owner claims the affiliate got, how much of that money was actually refunded to the customer... Maybe all the customers didn't get a refund, maybe there really wasn't CB's!!

All I know is, that if I signed up thinking I was going to see a Britney Spears Sex Tape, and didn't see one, then I would ask for a refund. And I'm sure the account holder emailed the program owner asking, and there was never no response, so this is how CB happens.. 12 out of 60 tho would not be a problem for me, I would have to change my tours, it's not on the affiliate it's on the celeb content..

TurboAngel 01-03-2010 06:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fris (Post 16703345)
Personally I dont think he carded signups himself, but if you look at the site he used for promo, it has been spammed around 1000's of comments, from adult, to pills, to mainstream sites, so odds are if someone signs up from an automatic spammed comment, the quality of traffic is going to be very low and thus result in a chargeback. which is what I think may have happened, if it was your everyday tgp/mgp/blog traffic the traffic is less likely to be a chargeback.

the 40% is what likely flagged the account, he may have some legit signups, who knows, but spamming sites in comments results in a very likely situation.

So even *if* money is owed, it wouldnt be the full amount since the high chargeback rate, but most programs will just ban your account if you have that high of a cb rate, and rather not deal with the hassle.

:2 cents:









Quote:

Originally Posted by lazycash (Post 16703831)
After reading everything, this is exactly what I think happened also. I don't think TF carded, just think the promotion was probably shady and a majority of the traffic felt duped after signing up. I'm clueless on celeb niche ratios and cb %, but I have to believe this has happened plenty in the past with some affiliates because of all of the bullshit celeb promo pages I've seen.

Its no different than the barrage of Phillipine chat spammers over the last two years and all of the sponsors that have suspended them because of their high cb %. They over hype/promise to the surfer and then disappear after he signs up for a trial, well of course most of them are going to feel duped and chargeback.

2 people who don't like us one bit don't think TF carded.

Agent 488 01-03-2010 06:32 AM

better warm up the rv. i suspect you will never see a dime.


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