Originally Posted by MVT (Post 16703283)

turboangel, please tell me what you do...

Originally Posted by Turboface

No, but the way she's going, that's exactly what's going to happen.

From her violently mood swings, to her hard drug binges, to her repeated suicide attempts, I question why I am with her till this day.

Ann isn't even a webmaster, she just posts on her because she's bored and has nothing to do except watch tv (she doesn't have to get a job, thanks to me) and she knows of the board because of me. She can't do much more than surf, post, and copy & paste.

I see she started this thread yesterday, which was one of her bad days. She's been fine today and I am sure she regrets making this thread now. That's how she is, like day and night, one day she's ok, the next I could be dealing with the Exorcist. Usually the two weeks after she gets her period she's bad, but the two weeks before, she's worse.

By all means if any of you guys want this ticking timebomb, feel free.

Originally Posted by pr0 (Post 16703176)

You guys can say what you want about turboface, but one thing he is NOT is a carder....& the one thing he would never do, is risk his freedom by using stolen cc's.

I suggest you do a look up on the ip's used to sign up/do a full investigation & contact the local authorities if you think fraud was involved & find the REAL person responsible if such an act took place.

Having known turboface for many many years....IF he were to conduct such a scam (which he would not have, I've seen his work), he certainly would not have done it with all female cards, he's far too intelligent (and has too much background in automation/AI etc) to do something so stupid. 2 cents:

I would suggest 3 possibilities....#1- this is all a big misunderstanding between both of you.... #2 - the fact that all females signed up was a coincidence, or #3- someone was trying to set him or you up

I suggest you guys come together & make some serious amends because this has gotten way out of hand & the personal bullshit is uncalled for on both sides.

Originally Posted by fris (Post 16703345)

Personally I dont think he carded signups himself, but if you look at the site he used for promo, it has been spammed around 1000's of comments, from adult, to pills, to mainstream sites, so odds are if someone signs up from an automatic spammed comment, the quality of traffic is going to be very low and thus result in a chargeback. which is what I think may have happened, if it was your everyday tgp/mgp/blog traffic the traffic is less likely to be a chargeback.

the 40% is what likely flagged the account, he may have some legit signups, who knows, but spamming sites in comments results in a very likely situation.

So even *if* money is owed, it wouldnt be the full amount since the high chargeback rate, but most programs will just ban your account if you have that high of a cb rate, and rather not deal with the hassle.

:2 cents:

Originally Posted by TDF (Post 16703381)

jon and kate sextape???






























im out everyone have a good night

Originally Posted by pr0 (Post 16703176)

You guys can say what you want about turboface, but one thing he is NOT is a carder....& the one thing he would never do, is risk his freedom by using stolen cc's.

I suggest you do a look up on the ip's used to sign up/do a full investigation & contact the local authorities if you think fraud was involved & find the REAL person responsible if such an act took place.

Having known turboface for many many years....IF he were to conduct such a scam (which he would not have, I've seen his work), he certainly would not have done it with all female cards, he's far too intelligent (and has too much background in automation/AI etc) to do something so stupid. 2 cents:

I would suggest 3 possibilities....#1- this is all a big misunderstanding between both of you.... #2 - the fact that all females signed up was a coincidence, or #3- someone was trying to set him or you up

I suggest you guys come together & make some serious amends because this has gotten way out of hand & the personal bullshit is uncalled for on both sides.

Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 16699891)

you should use male and female names and vary the logins next time. chalk it up as a lesson learned.

Originally Posted by Turboface (Post 16703641)

Also, most all of the signups I got are not even a month old, so they haven't even had a chance to rebill yet. From the only screenshot they have posted so far, of all the 'carded' signups I sent them, there have already been two rebills. How does that happen?

Originally Posted by Turboface (Post 16703641)

I went with the $40 PPS with them. If I would have realized that his sites were just full of stolen content and false promises to the surfer, I never would have even sent them any traffic at all.

Originally Posted by Turboface (Post 16703641)

If I would have realized that his sites were just full of stolen content and false promises to the surfer, I never would have even sent them any traffic at all.

Originally Posted by Turboface (Post 16703691)

Moses, you asshats don't have a leg to stand on.

Between all the threads about this, KManrox has being exposed for the scammer that he is (and has been) and more shit is coming to the surface by the moment, your lack of providing proof of the accusations towards me, and all the talk about your shady program full of stolen content and false promises to surfers.

I don't how many fake nicks you guys post under or how many butt buddies you have attempting to protect you, it doesn't matter. If you think I will ever let you crooks get away with scamming us, you are in for a rough ride that will never end.

:2 cents:

Originally Posted by fris (Post 16703345)

Personally I dont think he carded signups himself, but if you look at the site he used for promo, it has been spammed around 1000's of comments, from adult, to pills, to mainstream sites, so odds are if someone signs up from an automatic spammed comment, the quality of traffic is going to be very low and thus result in a chargeback. which is what I think may have happened, if it was your everyday tgp/mgp/blog traffic the traffic is less likely to be a chargeback.

the 40% is what likely flagged the account, he may have some legit signups, who knows, but spamming sites in comments results in a very likely situation.

So even *if* money is owed, it wouldnt be the full amount since the high chargeback rate, but most programs will just ban your account if you have that high of a cb rate, and rather not deal with the hassle.

:2 cents:

Originally Posted by fris (Post 16703345)

Personally I dont think he carded signups himself, but if you look at the site he used for promo, it has been spammed around 1000's of comments, from adult, to pills, to mainstream sites, so odds are if someone signs up from an automatic spammed comment, the quality of traffic is going to be very low and thus result in a chargeback. which is what I think may have happened, if it was your everyday tgp/mgp/blog traffic the traffic is less likely to be a chargeback.

the 40% is what likely flagged the account, he may have some legit signups, who knows, but spamming sites in comments results in a very likely situation.

So even *if* money is owed, it wouldnt be the full amount since the high chargeback rate, but most programs will just ban your account if you have that high of a cb rate, and rather not deal with the hassle.

:2 cents:

Originally Posted by lazycash (Post 16703831)

After reading everything, this is exactly what I think happened also. I don't think TF carded, just think the promotion was probably shady and a majority of the traffic felt duped after signing up. I'm clueless on celeb niche ratios and cb %, but I have to believe this has happened plenty in the past with some affiliates because of all of the bullshit celeb promo pages I've seen.

Its no different than the barrage of Phillipine chat spammers over the last two years and all of the sponsors that have suspended them because of their high cb %. They over hype/promise to the surfer and then disappear after he signs up for a trial, well of course most of them are going to feel duped and chargeback.

Originally Posted by TurboAngel (Post 16704100)

2 people who don't like us one bit don't think TF carded.

Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 16704117)

better warm up the rv. i suspect you will never see a dime.

Originally Posted by kmanrox (Post 16704121)

what about the other 6500 views? keep fishin.. your BF is gonna pull you down with him.. i'd advise getting as far from him as you can.. it seems some ppl actually like YOU but i cant find a soul who likes TF.. which is all pretty irrelevant.. your fucked up... he needs to find a new mark... i'm nobody's mark as has been proven.

Originally Posted by TurboAngel (Post 16704128)

I think that's the whole prob you don't like TF so you let him send traffic knowing you weren't going to pay a cent cuz it was from him.

Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 16704117)

better warm up the rv. i suspect you will never see a dime.

Originally Posted by Turboface (Post 16704350)

KMan is getting beat up pretty bad in his thread about me.. and he's going to continue to do so until he pays up.

:1orglaugh

Originally Posted by CamTraffic (Post 16704341)

Looks like all the traffic was sent during the last month or so, you can't really judge on the "2" rebills in that case.
You should be able to track some of the infos back with your Billing provider and find out WHY membership were cancelled, their customer service peeps always ask for the reason of the cancellation, and you should have access to that.


Now looking at your payment page on http://tour.celebsonly.com/signup/signup.php ( passed the first " create your username" page ) i get to that page:

http://i47.tinypic.com/2hnbe9y.jpg

and if you scroll down a little, you can see the rest of the page:

http://i47.tinypic.com/2af06lz.jpg

Maybe the pre checked cross sells created those charge backs?
Just imaging getting a $1 membership and 2 days later you get a:
39.95 + 39.91 + 39.91 = $119.77
I sure would charge back my membership!

No webmaster would send that amount of traffic for 10 fake sign ups / charge backs :2 cents:

PS: I don't really have a side, i don't know any of you guys, i am just stating the obvious, hope you can work it out.... 60 sign ups and 10 charge backs dont really justify withholding $2400

Originally Posted by kmanrox (Post 16704126)

i bet you $2400 these scammers will never see a dime.. or a penny...

i would be willing to donate a new box to live in with the stipulate that it carried the RD logo on it along with rights to broadcast their arrest should that day come. :upsidedow

Originally Posted by fris (Post 16704633)

the accoiunt should have been banned for spamming anyway

Originally Posted by Doctor Feelgood (Post 16703252)

he obviously doesent have any proof or he would of posted it by now.

Originally Posted by papill0n (Post 16699488)

you know the drill. proof.

Originally Posted by nekrom (Post 16699541)

Post a nats screen shot of the carded members user/password.

Originally Posted by Doctor Feelgood (Post 16703338)

post proof or take a walk you %$#@%$%$#%ing #$@#$$$#ing $#$@%#

Originally Posted by Aka_Bluey (Post 16699604)

+1 for pic's... it is or is it, sacrilege to even consider the

possibility... carry on.

Originally Posted by Babaganoosh (Post 16699900)

:thumbsup:thumbsup

Pics or it didn't happen.

Originally Posted by Doctor Feelgood (Post 16703088)

we need the paperwork, scan it and post it here. :321GFY

Originally Posted by SAC (Post 16700147)

lets see screenshots

Originally Posted by Hotrocket (Post 16700258)

I think you have made specific charges that should be proven by YOU,

not just referring to some old posts that have nothing to do with YOU or your biz.

Post proof..its that easy, otherwise its purely an accusation it appears you cannot back up.

You might want to do that before this turns into another Dirty D type thread...:2 cents:

Originally Posted by wdsguy (Post 16700261)

lets see some proof

Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 16700279)

Post the proof guys. You know how it works here. If you don't, this

thread will probably kick around for a while.

Originally Posted by BigDeanEvans (Post 16700332)

where is the proooooooooof :upsidedow

Originally Posted by theking (Post 16700771)

He has posted his stats...the ball is in your court. The rule for the

board is...prove it or be banned.

Originally Posted by Doctor Feelgood (Post 16701224)

has kman posted proof yet? you have one hour left kmartman

Originally Posted by Tjeezers (Post 16701649)

Best post on this page
I agree, show some goddamn proof as program owner you got flipped instead of making bullshit

fights.

SHOW PROOF !!!!

Originally Posted by boneless (Post 16701677)

kman post screenshots of the female usernames, the ip adresses of those who signed up, and basicly all the proof they were carding you, Or dump the argument, pay them and move on to the next problem.

Basicly, turbo posted the proof they made the signups (stats screenshot), so it would be very very very easy for you to post your part of the proof that he was carding, and according to gfy rules you MUST proof this part or be banned.

as a disclaimer, im not taking sides here, i dont know either of you two, but i do know that if i see something posted like carding signups i defo want to see the proof of it all, so far Kman is at epic fail in proving the fraudulent signups.

Originally Posted by Tjeezers (Post 16701708)

I would have loved to see some screen shots from the other side, so this thing can be dealt with on a more faster way.

Originally Posted by Gnus (Post 16701848)

I still haven't seen proof from rehab dollars that turboface was carding until then I'm putting rehab dollars on our black list. Any program can say hey that person is carding and not pay them without proof so until rehab shows proof they are on our black list.

Gary

Originally Posted by xxxdvdbuy (Post 16703730)

I would say his program is turning to shit now cause of the two threads. I wouldn't worry about getting him banned, if he gets banned he goes away and people forget. If he stays around and these threads stay around, he will have to change his domain name and company name. I know one thing he hasn't posted any proof what so ever of the affiliate scamming his program allegedly, so I would be talking to a lawyer or paying him a visit.

Before this thread goes into triple digits, for him to save his program, he better present some proof or pay the affiliate by Monday. That would be a wise decision.

It's none of my business, but I was scammed by a program at one time myself for sending legit joins and my ass got ripped. It was a NATS program so I voud to never promote another NATS or MP3A program ever again!.

Originally Posted by Gnus (Post 16704159)

I still haven't seen any proof of turboface carding.

Originally Posted by Tjeezers (Post 16704289)

Still no Proof?

Fuck you all then, this is just a classic ghost hunt, and Kman is milking on his friends in this one. Cause if he had non, anyone would have asked him to show proof.

I would stay away from all programs a bitmouth like him runs.

He started to do the DirtyD on us already :
I have more affiliates now, a record month in sales.....

LOL, get a life with your ghost hunt and fuck off, dont come back when you bring some proof of your Scammer Statement!

Originally Posted by Gnus (Post 16704332)

The fact still remains that you haven't showed us any proof of him scamming RD. You keep saying the same thing over and over again with no proof.

Originally Posted by CamTraffic (Post 16704355)

i get it, so you re not paying him because his charge back rate is up the roof on that one, now how can you be sure it s fraud? i think a lot people asked you to post proof, the fact that they were female joins is THE reason?
REALLY?
How about sign up with the same name, CC, or ip...the gender is a bit weak...

you don't even BUY your content... marinate on that one

Originally Posted by BigDeanEvans (Post 16701014)

Where is Kmans Proof? Are the CC's stolen??

Originally Posted by xxxdvdbuy (Post 16704697)

Better pull out and run home.

Originally Posted by Turboface (Post 16704808)

there's two main reasons some guy runs from the US to Thailand and never to return: either because they are on the run, or they want to have sex with children.

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy (Post 16704945)

You've crossed the line now. I will be requesting your ban, and having many others request it as well.

Because someone lives in Thailand does not mean they are on the run or a pedophile. Many come here for freedom and a cheaper way of life.

Originally Posted by Turboface (Post 16704960)

Didn't you guys see that Dateline NBC episode last year about Thailand?

Originally Posted by Turboface (Post 16704960)

Oh, and ya, that's why KMan moved there, [I]for freedom and a cheaper life.

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy (Post 16704984)

That was Cambodia, and what you saw was several years old.

I live in Thailand and take serious offense to what you've said.




You have no idea why Kman moved to Thailand, but you calling him (and all of us who live here) a pedophile is reason for a sure banning.

Originally Posted by Turboface (Post 16704808)

hehe - He can't run home. He fled the US 7 years ago and has never returned since. He is now holding up in Thailand. From what I have heard, there's two main reasons some guy runs from the US to Thailand and never to return: either because they are on the run, or they want to have sex with children.

:Oh crap