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rayadp05 01-03-2010 06:24 AM

I just chatted with a representative over at Zombaio and was told that using them as a secondary processer would be perfectly fine and that the rate would stay at 4.9%. I am going to contact them again and speak with a different representative (just to make sure) since that seems to conflict with what some are saying here.

rayadp05 01-03-2010 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Davy (Post 16704085)
So do you have to pay the VISA fee @ Zombaio or not? :warning

According to their merchant FAQ, Zombaio pays this fee for you.

webmasterchecks 01-03-2010 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rayadp05 (Post 16704099)
I just chatted with a representative over at Zombaio and was told that using them as a secondary processer would be perfectly fine and that the rate would stay at 4.9%.


We herby inform you about the following new clause, effective immediately.

§21) Cascading Terms
The given transaction fee requires Zombaio to have a good rate of successful transactions. If the merchant is using several credit card processors in lead (the first processors declines is sent to the second, and so on) (aka. billing cascade) Zombaio requires being the first processor in your cascade to be able to maintain your given transaction fee.

Failure to comply with this term will lead to a processing fee at 9% without notice. The fee will be restored once Zombaio is first in the cascade again. Several failures may lead to account termination.

Join form set-ups where the cardholder/member can choose which processor to use is not affected by this clause.


Best Regards
Zombaio Accounting Department

http://www.gfy.com/16612853-post1.html

Zombaio_Tomas 01-03-2010 12:23 PM

Hi Guys!
From what I can see there are 2 major questions here:
1. Do we eat the Visa fee?
2. Is cascading allowed.

Ok..

1. Yes and No, we eat it for non-relocated US Merchants. For re-located and non-us merchants there are no visa fee.

2. It is ok to use us as backup and keep the 4.9% if we are not in an automatic billing cascade. If the end user can choose what biller to use, there are no terms violations. But if we are in place 2+ in a cascade we enforce the 9% rate.

Happy new year to you all!

stickyfingerz 01-03-2010 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zombaio_Tomas (Post 16704590)
Hi Guys!
From what I can see there are 2 major questions here:
1. Do we eat the Visa fee?
2. Is cascading allowed.

Ok..

1. Yes and No, we eat it for non-relocated US Merchants. For re-located and non-us merchants there are no visa fee.

2. It is ok to use us as backup and keep the 4.9% if we are not in an automatic billing cascade. If the end user can choose what biller to use, there are no terms violations. But if we are in place 2+ in a cascade we enforce the 9% rate.

Happy new year to you all!

Will be hitting you up in the next week or so Tom to discuss getting setup with you.

Darrell 01-03-2010 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zombaio_Tomas (Post 16704590)
Hi Guys!
From what I can see there are 2 major questions here:
1. Do we eat the Visa fee?
2. Is cascading allowed.

Ok..

1. Yes and No, we eat it for non-relocated US Merchants. For re-located and non-us merchants there are no visa fee.

2. It is ok to use us as backup and keep the 4.9% if we are not in an automatic billing cascade. If the end user can choose what biller to use, there are no terms violations. But if we are in place 2+ in a cascade we enforce the 9% rate.

Happy new year to you all!

Thanks for the info. A quick question, can a paysite have the word teen in the domain and process with Zombaio?

DavieVegas 01-03-2010 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 16704608)
Will be hitting you up in the next week or so Tom to discuss getting setup with you.

As will I once im ready to have everything set up.

mmcfadden 01-03-2010 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zombaio_Tomas (Post 16704590)
Hi Guys!
From what I can see there are 2 major questions here:
1. Do we eat the Visa fee?
2. Is cascading allowed.

Ok..

1. Yes and No, we eat it for non-relocated US Merchants. For re-located and non-us merchants there are no visa fee.

2. It is ok to use us as backup and keep the 4.9% if we are not in an automatic billing cascade. If the end user can choose what biller to use, there are no terms violations. But if we are in place 2+ in a cascade we enforce the 9% rate.

Happy new year to you all!

I was looking into several processors a couple months back.

I am not 100% sure that when I was attempting to sign up an $850 fee was pre-checked on the screen. I can't login because I never proceeded with the account activation and I do not have a current account.

I don't understand your reply #1... Do you charge the visa fee to someone living in NJ? Or are you saying there are no Visa fees for non-US residents? Are you saying US Fees are eaten by your company? The end result being that any webmaster or program using Zombaio does not pay CC fees?

Also, this may sound strange, but is there a difference between a program owner wanting to use you as billing and a merchant?

mmcfadden 01-03-2010 02:12 PM

Also, Can you post your fees?

Apparently $30 to send a check. A fee for chargebacks...

In lamens terms...

Les Grossman 01-03-2010 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zombaio_Tomas (Post 16704590)

1. Yes and No, we eat it for non-relocated US Merchants. For re-located and non-us merchants there are no visa fee.

I don't understand that. In simple English, what does that mean if you are non-relocated?

TisMe 01-03-2010 02:44 PM

If you're in the US, Zombaio pays the fee. If you're not in the US there is no fee. A Merchant is a webmaster that sets up credit card processing for his or her site.

Wires are $10 and often arrive a day or 2 early.

WebCompanyInc 01-03-2010 02:46 PM

Zombaio is awesome

CCBILL is awesome

kieshalittle.com will be our first primarily Zombaio site so if you are not signed up as a Zombaio affiliate nows the tiime

launching thursday

rayadp05 01-03-2010 02:56 PM

A couple of questions for Tom,

#1. Since I already have a CCBill account and have paid the Visa fee, do I need to pay the Visa fee again if I am processing through your company as an alternative for subscribers to sign up? Since the Visa fee is not a processer fee but rather a Visa fee, I would think that paying the Visa fee once would be sufficient but I am not positive about this.

#2. Regarding the word "teen" being used in a domain....is it permissible to have this word as part of the url in promotional galleries? The word does not appear anywhere in my domain name itself but the word is used in several of my promotional gallery urls. Of course, when I mention the word teen, I am referring to girls that are 18 and 19 years of age.

IllTestYourGirls 01-03-2010 04:00 PM

Anyone using their affiliate back end? I want to test it out.

DavieVegas 01-03-2010 04:57 PM

Ya, I hope they respond with all the answers...I want to get all this straightened out before i use them

NetHorse 01-03-2010 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DavieVegas (Post 16705133)
Ya, I hope they respond with all the answers...I want to get all this straightened out before i use them

Why don't you contact them directly if you're serious about using them..:2 cents: They sound like a good processor to me, as is CCBill.

Zombaio_Tomas 01-03-2010 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darrell (Post 16704712)
Thanks for the info. A quick question, can a paysite have the word teen in the domain and process with Zombaio?

Yes, if it's in combination with "legal" or "18" etc... it's not our rule, it's Visa Europe... and applies to all new sites added to the platform.

Zombaio_Tomas 01-03-2010 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rayadp05 (Post 16704865)
A couple of questions for Tom,

#1. Since I already have a CCBill account and have paid the Visa fee, do I need to pay the Visa fee again if I am processing through your company as an alternative for subscribers to sign up? Since the Visa fee is not a processer fee but rather a Visa fee, I would think that paying the Visa fee once would be sufficient but I am not positive about this.

#2. Regarding the word "teen" being used in a domain....is it permissible to have this word as part of the url in promotional galleries? The word does not appear anywhere in my domain name itself but the word is used in several of my promotional gallery urls. Of course, when I mention the word teen, I am referring to girls that are 18 and 19 years of age.

#1 No, the fee is per sponsored merchant (each merchant under an IPSP merchant account) so if you have several billers, you have to pay the fee several times. But we are offering a very simple re-location service.

#2 Yes it is. The rules only complies to the domain name, not the entire URL. So ie. www.domain.com/teen/xxx.xxx is OK. But best practice would be www.domain.com/teen18/xxx.xxx

jcsike 01-04-2010 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zombaio_Tomas (Post 16705239)
#1 No, the fee is per sponsored merchant (each merchant under an IPSP merchant account) so if you have several billers, you have to pay the fee several times. But we are offering a very simple re-location service.

by relocation you mean, if im in the US, you will help relocate my business to the EU so that i dont have to pay the visa fee?

DavieVegas 01-05-2010 03:07 AM

bump for today...

alias 01-05-2010 03:10 AM

Zombaio pays. :2 cents:

Zombaio_Tomas 01-05-2010 06:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcsike (Post 16707330)
by relocation you mean, if im in the US, you will help relocate my business to the EU so that i dont have to pay the visa fee?

Well, we do not relocate your entire business, it's a relocation by a shared partnership, very simple setup - and no costs for you. However if you do not want to relocate, and are a US business, you can still use a US merchant account.

jcsike 01-05-2010 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zombaio_Tomas (Post 16710659)
Well, we do not relocate your entire business, it's a relocation by a shared partnership, very simple setup - and no costs for you. However if you do not want to relocate, and are a US business, you can still use a US merchant account.

thanks for answering my last question, thats great news!

im very interested in opening up an account then, can you send me more information on the relocation by shared partnership to [email protected]? or post the information here

Also, can you have a sales rep contact me as well at the same email address so that i can get help signing up if i need to please

thanks

DavieVegas 01-05-2010 02:04 PM

I like the customer service so far :)

jcsike 01-05-2010 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcsike (Post 16712246)
thanks for answering my last question, thats great news!

im very interested in opening up an account then, can you send me more information on the relocation by shared partnership to [email protected]? or post the information here

Also, can you have a sales rep contact me as well at the same email address so that i can get help signing up if i need to please

thanks

bump for an answer or email :)

DavieVegas 01-05-2010 06:53 PM

yup..bump for him

Dennis69 01-05-2010 07:18 PM

I've been using them for a few months now and I'm more then happy with the service... wires on time etc... :thumbsup

tommypimp 01-06-2010 07:32 AM

Can someone from Zombaio contact me by ICQ?
569287683

Vendzilla 01-06-2010 09:05 AM

sounds more and more interesting

when will the CFT project be available?

I've heard that affiliates don't get clicks to track in their stats, just sales, is this something thats going to stay the same or something thats going to change?

count of monte cristo 01-06-2010 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zombaio_Tomas (Post 16710659)
Well, we do not relocate your entire business, it's a relocation by a shared partnership, very simple setup - and no costs for you. However if you do not want to relocate, and are a US business, you can still use a US merchant account.

this is a great feature, please tell us more about this

DavieVegas 01-06-2010 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 16717096)
sounds more and more interesting

when will the CFT project be available?

I've heard that affiliates don't get clicks to track in their stats, just sales, is this something thats going to stay the same or something thats going to change?

Great point!!!


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