Wow, that's a total bummer :( More incentive to do it all for yourself, though!

no agent? i thought you were booking shoots for girls yourself or sending them on shoots in LA

Hmm? I put sometime back in the day thinking about and gather contacts to try and start an agency as I know alot of people but really its just to much of a headache. Now When I find hot girls I send them to agents I know. Now i just spend my efforts on my site.

M4yadult: Not via my website, I work on Cams.com

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i went home ealry today too :(

hahah a kill fee...

thats funny...

ive been shooting 9 years and I would never pay a kill fee...

does McDonalds pay you a kill fee when they deicide not to hire you? do they even give you a burger?

it's time you talent start looking at this as a job and get the hooker mentality out of your heads...

Funniest post of the year :1orglaugh

werd ^ 2 dat

I love GFY :glugglug

Apparently you don't deal with agency girls to often, we sort of get used to having a kill fee when our time is completely wasted. As for your McD's comment, I did not say I was meeting them, sat around and they didn't want to use me. I in fact met with them days before, was booked and scheduled to shoot this afternoon, showed up, did my makeup and hair, drove 30 miles across town and patiently waited. I would say that deserves a kill fee. Or do you get your kicks out of hiring girls then wasting there time??? B/c really that is the only reason you would even justify your comment.

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That sucks ass!

So you would make pro (porn) models drive for 4 hours then make them wait 4 hours and then say no, I am not gonna give you anything? Wow, you must get some really great talent then :1orglaugh

agency girls? oh you mean suitcase pimps... oh ive had my fair share dealing with them and the girls they brainwash....

do the girls pay us kill fee's when they have 10k excuses and are 2 hours late... or how about when they get there and get all demanding and forget they are the employee we are the employer .....

I don't know you so im not knocking you personally I see your point.. but also see mine... not every girl PRO or not PRO is on time bright eyed and bushy tailed ready to suck some cock and make it look good... it can go both ways....

to me it's talent.. I could care less if she has a name or not... I would not pay my mother a fucking kill fee if she drove from memphis to vegas and I sent her home.. shit happends.... again see my post above.. if you shoot content im sure you have dealt with it many times from the talent

ok, no need to be a fucking dickhead man :2 cents:

my ass is sore

Danza!!! You shoot anyone lately?!!!!?!?!?!

so fucking true :(:disgust

judging by the site,i would say ...NOT HOT

judging by the site alone I can see why you would have trouble with talent. A producers trouble with his talent should be taken up with the agent booked thru, if its thru an ad you have up well then that's the risk you take with brand new girls even i deal with it. But don't ever think in a million years I give a shit about those issues, if I show up on time, and I am bright eyed and bushy tailed I expect to be treated in that respect I am not the other talent. I am one of the girls who give my best, show up early and if I am not used for a booked shoot I expect my time to be compensated. I could have made well over $150 on my webcam in that 4 hours I wasted...

not to knock you at all dirtyd, whateverz clever, especially in this biz, but why the fuck would you talk about women like that, seriously, I never will know. Girls talk, especially in this Biz. They are trying to make it just like everyone else. Who gives a fuck about excuses and all of that. (IF) your a producer and all of that, being late, etc is just part of the biz. And as far as fees, if they live at point a and come to point b to shoot with me and I can't do it for some reason, yes, stand up producers will compensate. Maybe not a buck fiddy, but something.

But the way that a man talks about women speaks volumes about what kind of person that man is. And that goes for the rest of you wannabe motherfuckers and trolls that are parking your fat asses on this thread right now. Lord have mercy. No wonder no one of any substance will ever take you seriously with that shit type of attitude and obvious disdain for women. :321GFY

...fucking loosers

Ill sit right here and say i see both sides.

I will also say. do not confuse DirtyDanza's site with his words. He did not degrade women in this thread. he simply pointed out the other side of the fence with 'talent' whic has a lot of truth to it. Smokie says shes not that girl. We all know they both exist.

Danza is a good guy. Dont knock him without knowing him...

oh it's not a personal attack Deej, I wish dirtydanza the best. Just a pet peeve. I see both sides of the fence as well. But if you vouch, i will give him the benefit of the doubt, as your right, I don't know him. Fuck, I don't know you either though

just so we are all clear, im not knockin anyone for making there buck, just saying i can see why he would have trouble with talent. Your right some guys only pay $50 but atleast it covers the gas and make up i used. Hell most don't pay for standing me up, wish i could make them but I cant. I only bring this here due to the size of Reality King's, companies like this should be held to higher standards then the rest of the douches out there wasting girls time.

my only point is if your a well financed company you can afford to pay your talent for completely wasting there time, effort, gas, make up... If it was just some job with a no name guy i wouldn't have brought it here at all.

That sucks. If they booked you for a shoot, they should pay you something. Was it actually Reality Kings or someone that freelances for them?

This is really bad to hear that companies can treat people like that! :Oh crap


They dont do reality, the bosses obviously have more money than sence to realise that people make that company & using anyone like that gives this business a bad reputation! :2 cents:

Fuck me side ways! I think reality kings are real fucking arseholes doing that to you! :disgust

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I thought the same! :thumbsup

I looked at his site & its definatly a niche of which a few people must like. However, business is business & every girl, whether they get abused on film or not wants respecting & most importantly, paying! What a fucking dickhead! :2 cents:

I do think you should have been compensated in the instance laid out here...

I just felt you two were confusing his site for his words. Who knows :upsidedow

Me n' Danza disagree on quite a few things, but thats one reason we like each other is that even though we may disagree, we can still discuss it without not liking each other. How did he put it to me once... Im the most respectful person to ever disagree with him.

Another thing about him is he uses GFY to verbally MOsh around! If you knew more about his past here youd understand my first off the wall post about wondering if he shot anyone lately. Its because of the things he tells people here to get a reaction...

He is that wild fucker, but he is also a pretty damn smart business man in and outside of this industry. Not to mention knocks fuckers out in 1:40 flat!

one of the few in my handful of people in this industry I consider a friend.



I also have small experiences with you two as well... I like you both, just havent ever done any business or discuss life in length that Danza and I have.

Perhaps some day :thumbsup

Send you an e-mail now :) Thanks.

It was Reality King's Tour team that shoots for Money Talks, a very odd site but I was there to do a b/g with a fetish twist into it of some sort. As far as I am aware this is the only crew that films for the site (i may be wrong) but they had the Website's host with them, they were in the RV from the site... I am 100% sure they aren't freelancing for them.

I do not dislike or like anyone I have never met in person. I appreciate input and dislike rudeness.

From DirtyDanzas comment earlier, I feel that it would be rude to call a lot of models ready for a shoot and fuck them off without pre forcasting this :2 cents:

End of story, RK are naughty asking models to a shoot and then turning them away when the model is most probably fit enough for the shoot. Thats using power, control & domination :Oh crap

Perhaps its time you learned what professional is. I have been doing this for a fuck of a lot longer than you kid and if I have to cancel talent at the last minute, I pay them a cancellation fee. Its the same in any business. If you wanna be a pimp, that's your choice. You wanna be a photographer, that is a whole other thing.

edit: it take it all back. My bad. I just saw your shit. You are a pimp not a photographer like I thought....carry on bud.

Oh burn!

Danza = Owned!

I cant believe Dirty Danza thinks that its the model going for the job!


He says "McDonalds pay you a kill fee when they deicide not to hire you?"

No, they dont, because the worker is having an interview! Are you a fucking twat!?

Its the company that is hiring the model for work. The job has already been accepted by both parties once the model is told where to be!

if your car broke down on the way there and you didnt make it, would you have paid them a $150 kill fee?

btw, you're pretty hot. how much for a private session?

they used me today , I didnt even have to wait cause I am beautiful

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edit: my mistake wrong guy

most likely will see you sometime at an industry event. I used to go to XBIZ Hollywood, but since I am not in California anymore... But if I am, I am at Sardos Grill and Lounge in Burbank for Pornstar Karaoke or at the Goth/Fetish Clubs in Hollywood. Blah.

Phoenix or never!!!

I expect to see you there htis year SMOKIEEEEE!

Wouldnt you ring them while they too are on the way? :Oh crap