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donteattuna 01-09-2010 07:38 PM

..and then when he didn't earn a dime, and questioned them, the standard response was "you didn't want it bad enough"..."if you really worked at it hard enough you would be rich also". It works with those people who fall for it. Then they blame themselves instead of starting lawsuits.
Anyone familiar with the pyramid sales and infomercial type crap will recognize those lines. They all start with "what do you really want in life, visualize it, an ultra expensive sports car, luxury house, yacht, gorgeous playmate?...if you are only willing to take risks an invest and work at it, it's all yours...
What he doesn't tell you, is the only one making money is him, selling the seminar and investment materials. Oh sure, find a couple lucky suckers who closed a few properties or something and had a couple checks in hand to prove its a big money maker. Hell the realtors selling our houses are making much more bank than that, but most of them aren't rich because it isn't steady enough income. But they must not want it bad enough :)

donteattuna 01-09-2010 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loch (Post 16732781)
Well lets just say I?m not one to get into debates about serious business if it exists on boards....want to talk lets talk :)

Any professionals I've seen being interviewed to discuss the a job offer past the initial resume and phone interview are PREPAID their travel and room expenses. I can already see the answer to that will be "if you want it bad enough you'll be rich after it's all completed".

spazlabz 01-09-2010 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert Day (Post 16732724)
Well I learned this line from my days on wall street looking for which stock to invest in.. I made money and I lost money indeed. But I did not sit on my ass and wait for it to come to me, I took the risk and it paid off. Yes, I lost money as well during the learning experience.

Ok, about acting... You pay the talent their worth and you get better results.
I am not talking about paying a girl $1000 per scene, selecting the right talent I will pay her 10 to 15k each, meaning she will do it til she gets it right just like in Hollywood.
Each project may take a full month to shoot in order to get the results demanded.

I hate when I want to say something and can't

I agree with your post about risk and I completely agree with what you said in the second part of this post (I dont know anything about wall street). I hope you find what you are looking for :)


spaz

Jim_Gunn 01-09-2010 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert Day (Post 16732226)
Show me your best your to date.

Like many others said, it's easy to be skeptical when someone makes such outrageous claims. But if you are for real and curious to see some of my recent work, the site in my sig has a lot of samples of my current style of photography and work. A lot of the storyline feature movies I have made in my career would be found on DVD or tv, not the net. If I had to pick one shoot that felt the most like a "real"' movie shoot which also has a special place in my heart , I would go way back to 1995 to a two part movie I made called "Striptease" starring 90's porn star Shayla LaVeaux. The plot was loosely based on the book by writer Carl Hiaasen which was made into a Demi Moore starring vehicle of the same name. I shot the movie (part 1 & 2) on the Jersey shore at a real strip club that I used to frequent and used a cast of real strippers as the supporting cast, and a bunch of real patrons of the bar to fill out the crowd scenes. It was an experience that I will never forget. Nowadays I film all the new fresh faced girls down here in Florida. I think a big budget movie incorporating the city of Miami, South Beach and exotic locations would be an interesting production instead of more of the same porn from Southern California. Hit me up if you are serious and want to talk further.

Robert Day 01-09-2010 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim_Gunn (Post 16732862)
Like many others said, it's easy to be skeptical when someone makes such outrageous claims. But if you are for real and curious to see some of my recent work, the site in my sig has a lot of samples of my current style of photography and work. A lot of the storyline feature movies I have made in my career would be found on DVD or tv, not the net. If I had to pick one shoot that felt the most like a "real"' movie shoot which also has a special place in my heart , I would go way back to 1995 to a two part movie I made called "Striptease" starring 90's porn star Shayla LaVeaux. The plot was loosely based on the book by writer Carl Hiaasen which was made into a Demi Moore starring vehicle of the same name. I shot the movie (part 1 & 2) on the Jersey shore at a real strip club that I used to frequent and used a cast of real strippers as the supporting cast, and a bunch of real patrons of the bar to fill out the crowd scenes. It was an experience that I will never forget. Nowadays I film all the new fresh faced girls down here in Florida. I think a big budget movie incorporating the city of Miami, South Beach and exotic locations would be an interesting production instead of more of the same porn from Southern California. Hit me up if you are serious and want to talk further.

Done. I will hit you up soon enough.

Bman 01-09-2010 09:21 PM

lol this is an amusing thread...

weekly 01-09-2010 09:28 PM

How many times can I say it. Buddy here is a customer. Loch has the right idea, he called him. Anyone who even gives this guy the time of day is an embarrassment. I very rarely use this term which is tossed around the boards like salad, but this dude is a moron. I have no idea why you guys can't see it. He is jerking off on his keyboard while you treat him like he might have some money. Times are tough kids, but not that fucking tough.

Mutt 01-09-2010 09:34 PM

:1orglaugh

Peter Romero 01-09-2010 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by weekly (Post 16732932)
How many times can I say it. Buddy here is a customer. Loch has the right idea, he called him. Anyone who even gives this guy the time of day is an embarrassment. I very rarely use this term which is tossed around the boards like salad, but this dude is a moron. I have no idea why you guys can't see it. He is jerking off on his keyboard while you treat him like he might have some money. Times are tough kids, but not that fucking tough.

I don't care. I'm a content whore and I'm available. That is all. This isn't a bro club popularity contest. I book alot of new clients on GFY and other boards. Sometimes you just gotta suit up and show up. Turn that shit over.

weekly 01-09-2010 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter Romero (Post 16732952)
I don't care. I'm a content whore and I'm available. That is all. This isn't a bro club popularity contest. I book alot of new clients on GFY and other boards. Sometimes you just gotta suit up and show up. Turn that shit over.

Nothing to do with popularity. If times are that tough for you, go for it. Money talks, and bullshit strolls around the block whistling Dixie.

mmcfadden 01-09-2010 09:54 PM

So who's got the money?

weekly 01-09-2010 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mmcfadden (Post 16732971)
So who's got the money?

Well Peter thinks Robert does.....does this sound gay????lol
It will be interesting to see if Bobby lays it on the table. .Holy shit a pig just flew by my office window....

Peter Romero 01-09-2010 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by weekly (Post 16732961)
Nothing to do with popularity. If times are that tough for you, go for it. Money talks, and bullshit strolls around the block whistling Dixie.

Why are we talking about this. Someone asked, I and others answered, and left our contact info. Go put some links somewhere or do something productive. If a millionaire dropped $500 on the ground, would he pick it up? Absolutely. Only a broke ass wannabe player would step over it and talk about how he doesn't need the money.

Guy knows me but who am I? Nobody according to you. But, I've worked for the biggest Adult companies in the world. And I don't give a flying fuck if you, or anyone else for that matter hates me or loves me - you cannot deny that I'm really fucking good at what I do. And I left my resume here and so did Jim Gunn - and who the fuck is he? Another Moron like me? I don't think so. Who are you by the way? Yeah, that's what I thought.

weekly 01-09-2010 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter Romero (Post 16732995)
Why are we talking about this. Someone asked, I and others answered, and left our contact info. Go put some links somewhere or do something productive. If a millionaire dropped $500 on the ground, would he pick it up? Absolutely. Only a broke ass wannabe player would step over it and talk about how he doesn't need the money.

Guy knows me but who am I? Nobody according to you. But, I've worked for the biggest Adult companies in the world. And I don't give a flying fuck if you, or anyone else for that matter hates me or loves me - you cannot deny that I'm really fucking good at what I do. And I left my resume here and so did Jim Gunn - and who the fuck is he? Another Moron like me? I don't think so. Who are you by the way? Yeah, that's what I thought.

Dude, don't be so edgy. I was not dissing you or your work. It is all about Robert.....

XoXo Cash 01-10-2010 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert Day (Post 16732177)
You are absolutely right. It says it all.

So if you want to continue to shoot content that will sell for three months, and then become a small thumbnail in the next 6 months and no longer sell, so be it.
To each their own.

Will the real pornographers please stand up.

Robert, I dont know your true purpose for posting. Maybe you really care about everyone else lacking in quality, but if you are a billionaire, then what are you worried about? Create the stories and keep shooting it and dont waste your time cutting people down. Theres something wrong about you and your approach UNLESS its to just get hype and you are bored. In that case, fuck it, thats cool.

But to come on here saying how you are billionaire and bashing pretty much everyone who exists in the porn world is ridiculous. Seriously ridiculous. I know PLENTY of people making TONS of cash. Maybe if its not a billion, then they are losers to you. In that case, the money has gone to your head. Maybe some people are happy making 2 million a year, or 500k a year, or 100k a year. Why do you care so much??? Your post, as its challenging to all men (and women) creating porn, is kind of bullshit. If you are Mr Empire, then thats fucking awesome! Go continue on! But to pass judgment on all porn creators and act like you know everything (which is really how you come across), makes me think you have some issues yourself. Dont waste your time on losers and pathetic people that are horrible at their craft. That's weird dude. Something dont add up. Unless again this is cuz ur bored or want publicity for your name. I dont go for you caring about every porn director and how bad they are.

Whatever.... I already spent too much time on this. Back to work making money I personally feel great about. And I dont know how my post reads, but its not to stir shit up or cause drama, its just people who dont get it, will never get it. If they cant shoot to your level of liking, then they cant shoot. Do you think your post is gonna turn the porn world around and people are going to want to listen to you when you bash them? You are missing something bro. I dont care how much money you have... treat people like shit and you get shit back. Thats simple logic. Have a drink on your private jet and quit worrying about all the losers. *cheers* :thumbsup

zurc-net 01-10-2010 12:32 AM

I like turtles

aniloscash 01-10-2010 12:45 AM

I wish I remembered the entourage quote "bring back 70's class to porn"

LoveSandra 01-10-2010 01:17 AM

good luck to you:)

papagmp 01-10-2010 03:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert Day (Post 16732114)
the real DVD market


ROTFLMAO :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Nautilus 01-10-2010 05:27 AM

Bringing back quality to porn is not a bad idea.

XoXo Cash 01-10-2010 05:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nautilus (Post 16733414)
Bringing back quality to porn is not a bad idea.

Quality is totally subjective. Everyone has the thing they are into. Any person thinks what they like is 'quality'. If they will pay a ton of money for it and someone delivers that, wheres the problem? If a pornographer wants to shoot something more deep and themed out than the next guy, then thats great too.

Times change, styles change, quality changes. I can bitch about the music industry the same way. But at some point it depends what you are in it for. BUSINESS or ART. And for all the people maybe bitching about quality, it leaves all the more room for them to prosper if there is so much content that is 'less quality'.

i dont see a problem here. Do what you want and do it good. Whether its making money or making art or making both.

STAROTICA 01-10-2010 05:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Robert Day (Post 16732219)
I have a property in Washington, but I am not in America. Again your arrogance overwhelms you, vastly.

washington state or the district of columbia (DC).....not an american huh? Whats your passport say.....or are you of dual citizenship/dual nationality?

Agent 488 01-10-2010 05:58 AM

as the economy gets worse there seems to be more or these fuckers who just outright pretend to be part of the industry and making money. just outright sad really. guess that happens when you are unemployed and have free wi-fi.

Mutt 01-10-2010 06:05 AM

hysterical that there are people here actually willing to suspend their disbelief and give this kook the benefit of the doubt.

this is the same guy who in another thread was giving Jules Jordan a lecture about porn.

this person is one of two things 1) an old broken down has been from the video porn industry, there are many of them 2) an old broken down porn addict

NickB. 01-10-2010 06:10 AM

what are these DVDs people keep talking about?

Nautilus 01-10-2010 06:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XoXo Cash (Post 16733437)
Quality is totally subjective.

You miss quality and personal preferences. Yes everyone has the thing they are into, but properly filming this "thing" is what quality is about.

XoXo Cash 01-10-2010 06:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nautilus (Post 16733494)
You miss quality and personal preferences. Yes everyone has the thing they are into, but properly filming this "thing" is what quality is about.

lol... i do get what you mean so dont take this as arguing. but when you say PROPERLY... thats the subjective thing. What if someone loves camcorder POV and they lose their minds over how amazing it is and will pay all day for it. Then was it properly done? Well if you make a ton of cash (and cash is what you wanted) then it was totally properly done. if you want a hollywood presentation (art + quality) then, no it wasnt proper. Depends on what the user wants.

Nautilus 01-10-2010 07:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XoXo Cash (Post 16733503)
What if someone loves camcorder POV and they lose their minds over how amazing it is and will pay all day for it. Then was it properly done?

If it was properly done, than it's properly dobe :) There are tons of ways to fuck up a POV shot, and most of them are indeed fucked up. If someone loves camcorder POVs does not automatically mean they'll like ANY camcorder POV scene - you need to know how to shoot that kind of stuff properly to succesfully sell to this audience.

Quagmire 01-10-2010 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 16733450)
hysterical that there are people here actually willing to suspend their disbelief and give this kook the benefit of the doubt.

this is the same guy who in another thread was giving Jules Jordan a lecture about porn.

this person is one of two things 1) an old broken down has been from the video porn industry, there are many of them 2) an old broken down porn addict

The fact that some people here seem to think a billionaire would come on to an adult webmaster board looking for pornographers has me shaking my head.

If you have to go looking, you aren't what you claim. A real billionaire would have his people bring them to him.

Oh wait! I think I hear Robert Day's private stealth intergalactic space craft landing on the roof of The Palms right now just in time for Internext!

nation-x 01-10-2010 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert Day (Post 16732138)
Again this is why I am a multi billionare

bullshit. :1orglaugh

Agent 488 01-10-2010 08:32 AM

this is a sad thread in many ways.

weekly 01-10-2010 10:28 AM

Quote:

an old broken down porn addict
Bingo.....

epitome 01-10-2010 11:11 AM

Robert Day, I will give you insight that will let you skip to the front of the line.

There is a gay named Francis Koenig who is doing AMAZING things. He really knows how to squeeze every last drop out of a dollar.

I highly recommend that you link up with him.

Robert Day 01-10-2010 12:49 PM

My NOBODY opinion....

Jim Gunn and R. Garcia are the only ones with brains here so far.

If I was just a lame customer beating off to porn how would I know Peter Romero's real name, and once live in Woodland Hills, CA and moved up in the world by his hard work and dedication.

So far all I see is those of you who are inferior and extremely jealous of those who succeeded.

Mostly negative comments towards my requests, I am the one paying, so yes I am the big bad boss, YOU DO AS I SAY or go find work elsewhere!

How clear do I make myself?

Juggs 01-10-2010 01:02 PM

How does one get in touch with you?

tonyparra 01-10-2010 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert Day (Post 16732614)
Let me ask all of you internet porn gurus how many of you have moved 20 million units of Samsung TV's ?

Well I have and do, again let me clarify, porn is small part of the bigger picture of international distribution of major products that I move. Marc Bell and IVD are small fries, sorry.
Wait I forgot about my delusional oil money.

Jim Gunn
Peter/ R. Garcia good list.
as it is all about attitude.

man fuck what everybody else got to say can i get fucking job?

Robert Day 01-10-2010 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juggs (Post 16734015)
How does one get in touch with you?

Once I have completed the corporate accounts to fund these projects, all my contact info will be available.

But first I must weed out who is who and those who have great attitudes and desire for change.

I was in a meeting with a Hollywood Producer (very well known) he was interviewing a new videographer for a multi million dollar project (Film) -Non adult of course.
The videographer was requesting a higher quality Video camera for the job.
The producer responded... "Perhaps, but let's focus on the story that grabs the viewers attention, once your story has the viewers fullest attention, the quality of the camera is not so important anymore."

This producer said this in mind knowing that everything is shot with new SONY F35 or RED cams, so we are not going back to anything less than HD.

When you have a gripping story, your viewers will wait with anticipation for your next product.
Than means a loyal fan base, ect..

Shap 01-10-2010 01:17 PM

The thing about forums is you never know who anyone is. I know in amsterdam I had a few people tell me who they were on the boards and looking back I felt like a real jackass. You never know who someone is. I commend Jim and Peter for taking a chance and throwing their hat in the ring. At the end of the day they can only come out ahead. They stand to lose nothing but could gain something. Smart move by them :thumbsup

Robert Day 01-10-2010 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap (Post 16734050)
The thing about forums is you never know who anyone is. I know in amsterdam I had a few people tell me who they were on the boards and looking back I felt like a real jackass. You never know who someone is. I commend Jim and Peter for taking a chance and throwing their hat in the ring. At the end of the day they can only come out ahead. They stand to lose nothing but could gain something. Smart move by them :thumbsup

You are absolutely correct. I am going to fund these projects up front. It is I who is at risk of losing. I am not asking anyone for red penny. Once I know that I have solid folks to shoot
and produce these products, everyone involved will know who I am.

Those who are not involved will not know who I am. Understand? My time is money and MONEY is my time, and if you are nothing more than a keyboard warrior, then you are not worth my time.

For those who say a billionaire has people doing things for him, in most cases that is 100% correct. Sometimes when you want things done right one must oversee it him or herself.

Agent 488 01-10-2010 01:25 PM

typical con artist bullshit. can smell it through the screen. good luck with that lol.

Robert Day 01-10-2010 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 16734075)
typical con artist bullshit. can smell it through the screen. good luck with that lol.

This truthfully is not worth my time.. But I will comment on this response.

Agent 488, you must be a complete idiot, I suspect you have made more bad decisions if your life than good.

Let me ask in general... If it is I who is going to fund and pay up front before the work is even started, how is it that I am a con artist?

Let say I send Jim Gunn $150k up front to start these projects and he decides to just walk with my money, not yours.. how is that a con on my behalf? Please tell me that you fucking moron?

Jim, no I am not implying that you will in no shape or form do this. :)

tonyparra 01-10-2010 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert Day (Post 16734091)
This truthfully is not worth my time.. But I will comment on this response.

Agent 488, you must be a complete idiot, I suspect you have made more bad decisions if your life than good.

Let me ask in general... If it is I who is going to fund and pay up front before the work is even started, how is it that I am a con artist?

Let say I send Jim Gunn $150k up front to start these projects and he decides to just walk with my money, not yours.. how is that a con on my behalf? Please tell me that you fucking moron?

Jim, no I am not implying that you will in no shape or form do this. :)

dude give me $50 bucks and a cam i can shoot some quality shit.

weekly 01-10-2010 02:40 PM

Quote:

Jim Gunn and R. Garcia are the only ones with brains here so far.
Well I spose that includes yourself....please apply on my moron thread. I might have some work for you.

weekly 01-10-2010 02:44 PM

I gotta think this thread is a total wind up. Sounds like Damian in full cry.

iwiiiiiiiiii 01-10-2010 03:04 PM

I reach XoXo Cash... The approach pop me a light.

For those who have great idea, please, do not work with people with Mr. Day attitude.. You will regret it... Having a shareholder, first is not easy, but having an arrogant shareholder who get to much money in his head, it's suicide.

In this world, if you have a nice idea, and you can show that it will make money, you will find the money.

And to finish, if Mr. Day worth 8 figures, I don't understand what he is doing here, especially when in Vegas (where I am) there's a lot of potential people to meet.

Hotrocket 01-10-2010 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert Day (Post 16734000)
My NOBODY opinion....

Jim Gunn and R. Garcia are the only ones with brains here so far.

If I was just a lame customer beating off to porn how would I know Peter Romero's real name, and once live in Woodland Hills, CA and moved up in the world by his hard work and dedication.

So far all I see is those of you who are inferior and extremely jealous of those who succeeded.

Mostly negative comments towards my requests, I am the one paying, so yes I am the big bad boss, YOU DO AS I SAY or go find work elsewhere!

How clear do I make myself?

you sound remarkably like that crazy camgirls guy....

why is anyone who giving this lunatic the time of day?

donteattuna 01-10-2010 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap (Post 16734050)
The thing about forums is you never know who anyone is. I know in amsterdam I had a few people tell me who they were on the boards and looking back I felt like a real jackass. You never know who someone is. I commend Jim and Peter for taking a chance and throwing their hat in the ring. At the end of the day they can only come out ahead. They stand to lose nothing but could gain something. Smart move by them :thumbsup

Do you forward those chain emails to 12 of your friends so you might get rich from microsoft :Graucho

XoXo Cash 01-10-2010 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nautilus (Post 16733527)
If it was properly done, than it's properly dobe :) There are tons of ways to fuck up a POV shot, and most of them are indeed fucked up. If someone loves camcorder POVs does not automatically mean they'll like ANY camcorder POV scene - you need to know how to shoot that kind of stuff properly to succesfully sell to this audience.

i can agree with that. :winkwink:

epitome 01-10-2010 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hotrocket (Post 16734557)
you sound remarkably like that crazy camgirls guy....

Interesting observation!

Iron Fist 01-10-2010 05:44 PM

Surfs up..


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