50 turnkey opportunities.

This dude who runs Joggs was an indirect influence on me and he doesn't even know it......I know for a fact that joggs has been within the top ten on google for "big tits" for a few years now....I used certain techniques that were given to joggs to get me in the top ten in google for another popular unreleated two word term for years....

Thanks Joggs.....Good luck....Hope you get what you're asking for.

Bump for you Yigal.
I can confirm that you buy legal content licenses for your sites.

Why do you have no advertising on your sites if I may ask?

Phew, with 600,000 hits a day I could power up Camgirls.com in no time, and have the biggest tit camgirl site there is! We'd make $10,000,000 a year and split 50/50!

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shitty response to a legit question.

keep dreaming you're going to get anywhere near 3yrs.

your content isn't worth what you dream it is and none of your urls posted are anywhere near "high end"

good luck :thumbsup

I love armchair sales consultants. No one here runs a business close to this so they can keep their opinion up their ass where it belongs IMO

Are you willing to split traffic sites into a seperate sale? I have no interest in content or paysite side of business, just the traffic generating sites.
WG

Good luck on the sale. :thumbsup

A million or two for those sites is perfectly reasonable. Think about BB and RK. They own tons of big tit programs, and 2 mil to them is a drop in the bucket.

How much do you think BB paid for just the Naked.com domain name?

Good luck with the sale dude - don't worry about the haters!

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good luck with the sale dude :thumbsup

I would imagine your experience would be a bit like those services that used to deliver "100k stable" TGPs... two months later the n00b webmaster has it running at 15k. :error

man this thread is full of dealkillers. At DNF you aren't allowed to ruin sales threads, sure beats reading all the loser comments.

One of the most quality networks out there for sale... jesus, i never thought i`ll see this comming from tEH mighty joggs .. yo mini hit me up when ur on.

P.S: Huge good luck to u guys

dude wtf is your problem? I was just making a simple statement based on the hundreds of "xxxxxxx for sale" threads I've seen. Climb down from your high horse for a sec and stop being a prick. :321GFY

Amazing how a lot of the people in this thread have no idea who they are talking to.

Yigal's sites are worth more than he is asking. And he will get every penny that he asks for it too. Joggs is one of the best big tit traffic sites in the world. And he is one of my biggest affiliates of all time...and if you ask any big tit paysite owner out there they will tell you the same thing.

I'm shocked and saddened that he has decided to do this.

good luck!!

Good luck with the sale! Wish we had that kind of money

i can hear Shap already counting his coins...

Let's hope not. That would destroy it. Joggs.Com needs to be owned by someone who knows how to run a tgp correctly.

Based on the numbers and information provided, his asking price seems very realistic.

Many of the people that won't pay more than 6 months income are the same one's the complain about tubes, piracy, etc. They think that this multi-billion dollar industry is going to collapse overnight and fail to see that it's just contracting and re-adjusting in a recession like almost every other industry.

Established and stable mainstream businesses can easily get 5 years of income as the sale price. Three years for an established and stable adult network is not unrealistic. Established and stable are the keywords in the previous sentence.

sorry to hear this, good luck on the sale though, whoever picks this up is going to rule the serps for big tit keywords...

I went ahead and sent you an email btw. :)

who want crakmedia for 3 year of incomes ? :)

good luck with the sale.

if you decide to parse out the mainstream domains and paysites for sale let me know

admin (@) modelstube.com

Best of luck on the sale

You sent me an email earlier today.. No idea what your reply was to to though?

minimouse has completely dominated the big tits niche for years... He has no reason to be humble :2 cents:

Brazzers should jump on this. They have the money and man power to continue running those sites successfully.

Good luck dude

if it can be parted i would be interested in the non-paysite sites.

i'm not saying he needs to be "humble"... more of "don't be a dick"

Wow...this thread basically says it all. It is the difference between the business people in the industry and the rest.

Yigal is straight up. He's smart, and doesn't frequent boards like GFY because he doesn't have any patience for the kind of thing this board has become. He posted up business, and then was questioned by folks who have no business questioning him because they aren't serious and/or aren't actual buyers.

Not everybody enjoys this place. but it is a good spot to get the news out. Especially when you are doing something like selling Joggs.Com. I don't blame him one bit for his response. He has no reason to entertain your questions or anyone elses quite frankly.

People who know what he's selling and have the extra money to buy it will contact him. Those who don't will make statements on GFY about how much it is "worth".

Not attacking you, I'm just telling you the way it is. Bump for Joggs.

You have nothing that I would be interested in owning. Good call on getting out!

There you go. Now you know. The biggest player on gfy has spoken and apparently your sites are shit on toast. You need some great sites that spit money out your asshole if you want to get anything for them.

Good luck on the sale. I am sure they are worth what you are asking. But hey, I gotta get back to my Photomart gig and dream.

Robbie you're always so in the know about everything - you tell us all what networks/programs have sold for 3 years earnings or close to it? If 3 years earnings were even remotely possible there would be a STAMPEDE of people trampling over each other to get to the exit door.

When hahaha was on his buying spree a few years ago buying up programs left and right, in a better business climate, super 'aggresive' x-sales, pre-economic crisis he wasn't paying anywhere near 3 years earnings.

Somebody who pays him 3 years or close to it might be making a good investment but it just doesn't happen in this industry. Maybe he'll luck out and find the one person who just has to have his traffic and has that kind of money liquid.

oi... I wasn't questioning him, his sites, his bro-status or what he was asking for. ALL I was saying was the usual "for sale" threads I've seen end up in the 6mo max range and got my face bit off about it. He could have just as easily replied with why I'm wrong and it would have been the end of it but he chose to fire off a smart ass remark like a true dick instead.

I really don't give to shits about his sites or the sale I was just voicing my opinion. His rude reply was in no way warranted or necessary. I wasn't trolling or busting balls. It was an honest and innocent statement. Maybe I should have just flamed him at least that way it would have been fun...

Then don't worry about it. Simple enough. You aren't gonna buy it and it's not your field of expertise anyway

And it's my job to be "in the know" My question would be: Aren't you "in the know" about things that concern you?

Of course you are, if you're good at what you do. :)

And when it comes to traffic sites, ability to make sales as an affiliate...I KNOW what Yigal does. We've made a little money together.

And a few years back Porn Access had a give-a-way contest for a T-Rex. I never lost any sales contest I set my sites on. Won all kinds of shit over the years. I decided I wanted that T-Rex.

I KILLED it on sales. Only to find out in the end I came in second place. Joggs.Com beat me.

He earned my respect right there. And when we finally met in Amsterdam a few years later he cemented my respect.

I like meeting people who are smart and kick ass. And when I do, I acknowledge it.

GFY, where nobodies can rush home from the day job and pretend to be relevant.
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Best of luck

Ya know Ron, you took the words right out of my mouth.

best of luck with the sale! i'm sure in no time you'll be selling them for your asked price. sad to see you leaving the biz and hope you make it big in your next project!

I am impressed by people that can start and grow a business to the point it is worth selling for a profit. How many motherfuckers around here can actually do that. I hope he does well.

lol :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Your better off hiring someone to work the sites for you. You aren't going to get a buyer to pay you that much.

Yigal. I wish you the best of luck. I've always enjoyed our conversations and doing business with you. You will be missed in the industry.

If I could give you a few pointers that may help your sale.

1. lose the attitude. Yes the majority of GFY is retarded. We all know that. The problem is not everyone knows who you are (just like not everyone knows who I am). If someone is referred to this thread and reads your replies they won't even bother contacting you. Simply because you aren't coming off as the guy that you are. Try to lose that. Just answer the questions calming and without emotional attachment. You want to sell the sites so put your salesman hat on and take all the bs thrown your way and ignore it.

2. I wish you the absolute best of luck and I really hope you get your asking price. Just from a buyers stand point I want to let you know 3 years income is insane right now. If you get it you are the luckiest guy alive. Why? Because you are selling sites that are in two markets that are at the end of their life cycle. There is very little upside to the sites. Your price point puts you in position to deal with only serious people and most will know that. If you really want to sell and leave the industry I highly recommend you be flexible with your asking price. If you hold out you may regret it.

Good luck! :thumbsup

I agree 100%. I've said this before. The ideal time to sell a paysite network was Summer of 2008. The ideal time to sell a TGP network was 2007ish. That is when you could have asked top dollar for each. Top dollar imo being 3 years. Since then TGPs have taken a hit like no other. Any tgp that is still doing well is doing well because it is well managed. It will no doubt have a rough 2010 and 2011. Paysites are facing a number of challenges in 2010 and 2011. Nobody in their right mind will pay 3 years for a TGP and Paysite business. The future for both is far to uncertain. Paying 3 years revenue on 2009 numbers will take 5+ years to recoup imo.

begs the question....