LOL Robbie sometimes I read your posts and think "Damn Robbie has a clue." Other times I read your posts and think "Damn Robbie is fuckin retarded!"

Guess which I'm thinking today? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

I could care less what you're thinking. :) As I said, Yigal has my utmost respect. I know what Joggs.Com is capable of. It's more than worth what he is asking. But thanks for coming in here and trying to ruin his sale with your expertise. As I said earlier, people who know what he has and what it makes will contact him. Others, will pontificate on GFY.

You are funny because you mention him as one of the biggest affiliates of all time and mention I don't know how to run a tgp. While my tgp business is still earning and profiting more than his. You truly don't know wtf you are talking about.

There is nobody who will pay 3 years income for a TGP. NOBODY.

good luck meng,

do uahve any domains for sale?

Best of luck with the sale.

3 years income is fell above the market IMO, but a few great domains could make the differents

Shap.. the sites are worth more than what I'm asking for.. were leaving the adult marketing business for 2 main reasons.

1. We have 3 kids now.
2. I'm tired.

there is no Chance the sites will die off in 2010-2011 as you say.. the market is evolving and would be dominated by cell phones and other hand held devices, you just need to adjust.. I don't have to tell you this since I know your game for years and your adjusting all the time.

When I opened my site at 2002 the main talk on the board was that tgp's are dead.. and look it's 2010 and I'm still game.

As you know "only" joggs.com from all the sites / paysites / domains I'm selling is active since 2002 and at the high times was making more than $xxx,xxx a month alone.

In the right hands.. let me say that again... IN THE RIGHT HANDS, the network will make a large amount of money.

Yes the network is a bit neglected now days due to lack of time and other business.. but the potential is HUGE.. and don't forget it is making nice income right now, that 85% of this board only dream of.

Robbie you have comprehension skills - NOBODY in this thread doubted Yigal has a valuable network in his niche. You're acting like everybody was putting him and his properties down like he's a nobody or a bs artist - nobody did that. EVERYBODY however is in agreement that nobody is paying 3 years earnings for ANYTHING in adult. It's only his asking price that has come under attack.

Shap, I agree that it makes no sense to spend that much on a TGP. I would not place the value solely on his income or current business plan. If you have upper $xxx,xxx the site generates traffic in a very profitable niche. The site has earned front page listings for very profitable search terms. Take the business plan to the next level if you have the skills and sky's the limit.

Exactly. I'm sure he's contacted Brazzers and Bang. If he hasn't I'd hit them up. If they don't bite then he has to change his gameplan. IMO they are his only chance of getting close to his asking price.

I know exactly how you feel. I know you've built something really great. I really hope you get what you are asking for. Contact Brazzers and Bang and RK. They are your best chance to get close to your asking.

I agree 100%. However front page listings for search terms can change right? Would someone risk $750,000 on a search engine placement?

Btw I've always been interested in your network. You've done great. The problem is it's not about what you've created as much as it's about an uncertain market. Companies are afraid to invest huge money in acquisitions. Why? Because of the uncertainty of where things are going. From tubes to credit cards to economy. There is so much uncertainty and that is why getting 3 years will be difficult.

Hey tube boy! There are adults in the room having a serious business discussion.

Now, why don't you go back to your room and play with your umm... tube sites.

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Let me ask you this Shap.. who much would you appraise a network that lets say makes $50k a month on 1 person work 3 times a week. for 8 years.

Give me you your numbers lets hear them.

Hehehe I'm thinking now that at least theres alot of people who will enter this niche and build 2 cent sites now after reading whats going here and pump some traffic again to this niche. :thumbsup

At least we covered that.

It all depends on the 24 month traffic, revenue, and profit trend. I would take that trend do worst case scenario and then value it out what it would be worth to me.

If traffic, revenue and profit have been 100% steady over the past 24 months. Without knowing anything else and knowing it does $50k a month in profit I'd say $500k to $750k range.

Are you willing to sell the mainstream domains separately?

Emailed you an inquiry from mike at naughtynames dot com.

There will always be some money to be made with TGP but it's going to be on the decline over the next few years. I agree w/ Shap having one of the larger companies that can afford to take the risk is your your best shot.

You know I am. :thumbsup

interesting ... robbie, let's touch base real quick.

Also on a side note.. brazzers starter growth engine was big tits sites.. mind I remind you that your first growth engine was the big tits niche.. for a fresh company with good managers with balls know the value of this niche.. no doubt that if a good starting company will take over this.. it's a great growth engine for them.

Yes I'll sell watched.com alone.

stop the fight guys.

I can see the attitude. But in reality, he says he's making $50k a month and looking for high xxx,xxx . So, if we take 900,000 as that xxx,xxx, he's selling for 18 months, which is within the logical parameters for this kind of sales. It beats me why are you "3 years this, 3 years that" when simple maths say it's around 18 months.

Of course, this applies if he's making 50k a month, if it's 30 or so, then yes, it's close to 3 years.

Either way, I wish the seller good luck, I'm damn extremely poor so I've no business here :(

Damn...I remember Joggs used to push Porn Access big time.

Good luck on the sale and enjoy your time with your family.

bump for world famous tit sites

oh fuck off .... that statement doesn't even make sense!

Not in this Market Fo Shizzle
 

:2 cents:

true that....some unreal idiots in this thread, really opened my eyes.

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Good luck further!

If he hadn't came up as a fuckign asshole maybe people would take him seriously.

Look at his first post. He is sellign a $1 mil business but is fucking clueless about writing a proper sales ad.

"Oh hai! I makes xx.xxx, want to get xxx.xxx, pay up LOL"
"you can't afford losers, LOL"


Get the fuck outa here.

if you are making so much money with this network, why are you selling it?
"letting new blood in" is not a reason I understand

paysite sales are in the shitter and he know it

all the free porn from tube, etc are killing the sales.

good domain:thumbsup:thumbsup

I only know Shap by reputation and based on that I would go out on a limb here and say his business acumen is not something to belittle. On the one hand you're validating minimouse because you feel he has accomplished a lot but then throw that logic totally out the window by discounting what Shap says even though he has the same accomplishments, if not more, as minimouse. Which one is it man?

You need to start making sense at some point because all I ever see you do is claim to know everything about everything and coming off the worse for it.

Really sorry to see you leaving the industry mate.

Good luck to you and your family in whatever you decide to do next :thumbsup

Now whats your fucking problem man.

nobody sells because they have kids or are tired. not unless you're 65.
you sell when you see the end of the road.
with catch phrases like "right now the network is neglected" and "in the right hands the network will make a large amount of money"
should give buyers pause. When you're buying an online business @ 3 years earnings, it should be absolutely turn key and run at the same high level without the old owner. if not, well.......

ok minimouse dont take it the wrong way, ive made a killing on mainstream, a lot more than what you are making now per month... and i've been on a buying spree buying up mainstream websites....

With that said, you will not get 3 year profit for your site... I know you think a startup company will be a good fit for this BUT the problem is the startup company does not have $xxx,xxx, neither will they be willing to invest in it.. its just too much of a risk..

So lets say i buy your site, and in october i notice google has wiped my listings, and also i notice the billing companies start scrubbing harder? then what?

My best estimate is that it may take 5yrs+ to recoup the money, and thats just a bad investment for that kind of money...

I'd lower my asking price if I were you.. Listen to what Shap is saying.. There are only a HANDFUL of people/companies who can even afford this at all, and those guys will not be willing to pay 3 years $$..

if your sites were selling for say $50k TOTAL, then you'd have a broader market, and maybe some huge risk taker will dump the $50k and buy it, but you are selling your websites in the high $xxx,xxx range which eliminates 99.99% of adult companies/buyers, and the ones who can buy are just not willing to dump that kind of money when shit has not been going well and revenues/sales are on the decline...

Hope that helps..
cheers

Those comments are spot on xxweekxx!
Plus of course the market could change a lot in that time.

Sites sold, thanks to everyone.

Congrats!

Great job. :)

wow, you sold them, great for you.

you sold them for 3 year $$, if so, great, please point me to the buyer.lol.. tons of guys here will sell and run for 3 year $$

:1orglaugh

whats funny? i posted some stats here few months ago when i was doing $10k+ a day with acai berry and biz op offers..

I personally made over $1mil from acai alone, laugh all you want :upsidedow

Brazzers ........... or Shap.

congrats if you got close to what you wanted.

This thread was educational..

Congrats on the sale..