Ok I see now. You really are a fucking idiot....... I thought you were just trying to obfuscate the issues and avoid the crux of the argument but it turns out you are just very very confused. :1orglaugh

Blame bush
 

Yep, and he needs a teleprompter to do it.

You didn't post any issues, you made up a stupid statement with no substance to argue.

It's not like you're trying to argue your point either, it's not like you could.

Yes, people that speak in public use teleprompters, like every president that could, has done... just think, Bush was reading from one and still screwed it up.


If you want to see Obama in action without a teleprompter, then check out his ownage of the GOP.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0..._n_442331.html

I already tried to simplify the rather obvious point in my first post with another post. Alas I believe there is no way I could simplify it to the point that you could understand. Regardless at this point I must disengage from this conversation as I am concerned that your idiocy might be contagious. Best of luck to you. :winkwink:

Bush did it.
See you at Xbix! :)

This will be ignored by the obama rabble

People who love Obama are taken by him. He does no wrong in their eyes. I've found it totally useless to debate anything regarding Obama with an Obama lover.

He is the 2nd coming of Christ who does no wrong and will spend the country out of recession, while creating millions of new jobs, get the banks lending again, lower taxes, stop every war in the world, close gitmo, put an end to the Patriot Act, win peace prizes while sending troops to war, give every negro his 40 acres and a mule, and will put an end to global warming, AIDS, cancer and David Hasselhoff, all while not needing his teleprompter.

Truth is, it doesn't matter. He has plenty of time to fuck up or kick ass. All he has to do is make everyone love him and trust him again, make up some good lies, promise shit he can never deliver, just in time to get re-elected. The sheep will forget about everything else.

He's NOT the 2nd coming of Christ. He's just a smart guy who seems to have vision, and who isn't a walking, talking joke like Dubya.

FUCK YOU - YOU ANTI-AMERICAN ASSHOLES!

SUPPORT YOUR PRESIDENT, OR LEAVE THE COUNTRY!

(sound familiar?)

I've been gone a while now. Bush was enough for me to throw in the towel. :Oh crap

Lamest twist ever... we aren't talking about your first post, which has already been addressed..

Being that the right around here is a tad slow, here is a refresher of the stupidity in question.

Ignored? It's an opinion article....

Anyway, when the budget was drafted the bill wasn't killed. If he didn't put it in, you would be saying it's proof it wouldn't work.

And... as he stated, he will simply adjust, but not like you guys listen to what he says - he is listening to you after all... however you listen to talking points and opinion articles that source no facts, borderline anti-American hate is all it is.

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There are lots of things to poke fun of Obama for. The MSM chooses not to. Obama walked into a god damn window at the white house! Thats pretty funny. And more recently he bowed to a fucking MAYOR! :1orglaugh Come on now thats pretty fucking funny.

It's never was $700 billion. That was just the reserves. They have multiplied and stolen that many many times over via fractional reserve banking. Last estimate was around 28 trillion.

Im listening to what he says. He says he is going to have a 1.6 trillion dollar deficit and ask for more money for wars than any other president in history. But to be honest there is not much more to listen to after that.

Same old shit.

Borderline anti-American? :1orglaugh

i dunno.. probably something about socialism here or something

Well, we are going to spend it either way... it's not like you can just freeze everything, and actually think everything will be okay. If your company stopped spending money today, how long would it stay around? Yeah... it's not a very smart business move.

So, now you're getting an honest view of what the real problem is, he isn't hiding it and you aren't being lied to about it. You can hate it, but it's way better than being lied to.

And you may want to listen; you're going to be paying it off and he explains why and how. At least he gives ideas on how to slow it down, start paying it down, growing out output, all types of stuff - it can't happen, yesterday.


That would depend on what is being said. In your case, the linked article would be the issue.

The media doesn't 'report' anymore, they create mini-dramas that skew the truth just enough to create entertainment.

yeah too bad fro you fiscal years start on Oct 1st so the 2009 budget started in Oct 2008. I do believe Bush was still president.

Secondly the President as you stae PROPOSES budgets he doesn't pass then he's not king. Obama can PROPOSE all he wants CONGRESS is the one that actually passes the budget. If Congress doesn't like it then he won't get everything he wants. All the President can do is sign the budget into law or veto it. So the 2009 budget that started in Oct 2008 was in fact signed by Bush. Meaning he thought it was ok.

Right on! :thumbsup

Ok first of all all the bailout money given to banks is being paid back WITH INTEREST. SO dfar on teh money thta has been paid back we've made $2 BILLION in PROFIT. Um not bad in my book. Get the money back AND profit. Also GM has to pay back it's money too.

Once again it's not $700 billion

This is the old estimate the new one is in excess of $28 trillion so you can safely assume that if they only pay back $700 billion+ interest they made off with $27 trillion more.

U.S. Rescue May Reach $23.7 Trillion, Barofsky Says
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...=aQEI97EY.fs0#

That's what people don't seem to want to understand. When they deposit that money into 1 bank account it is held there in reserves and earns interest. The bank can then use said reserves to loan out as little as 10x that amount. They did this over and over again paying off their fraudulent credit default swaps. The banks at one time were supposed to hold 10% in reserves but since this bailout and the likes of Goldman Sachs and others became bank holding companies that threshold was raised to an infinite number considering several of those companies are leveraged out 150 to 1. IE they owe 150 times what they have in assets and reserves.

Obama can pretty much kiss the Democratic party goodbye come midterm elections. He has been nothing short of an epic fail that makes Bush look decent. I mean how dumb does he have to be to believe that constant deficit spending is somehow going to stimulate the economy? It didn't work for the Great Depression, actually prolonging it until FDR cut back, it sure as hell isn't going to now. His monetary and fiscal mismanagement has been absurd.

I wouldn't put faith on anything GatorB has to say. The guy doesn't understand facts.

I don't know if you've been following theDoc's posts lately, but what he does is post purposely misleading information. Then when someone calls him out on it with actual facts, he retreats and claims he was just baiting everyone.

Looks like everyone agreed with ya! Ha!



I'm all up for showing GFY your lies again.. why don't you start off by showing how I was misleading 12clicks? At least prove your own statement isn't a lie....

I hope the civil war wil be broadcasted live on TV....

Popcorn is ready :thumbsup

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Good lord, it doesn't matter if Obama supports right wing policies since they'll rail against him and foam at the mouth screaming socialism or some form of 'ism. This bitching from conservaturds is getting old. Isn't there some teabagging convention going on somewhere?

i think this is not a proper time to blame whos fault it is, let work together how we could help our great country!!!!

Since I post concrete evidence and you post bullshit, I'm going to chalk your response to continued stupidity. Congratulations, you have 1 guy on GFY who doesn't think you're a total moron. Unfortunately, you've embarrassed yourself more times than I can count, to the point where I doubt anybody takes your posts seriously.

Translation: "Doc - I have nothing, so as usual I will stick to my default answer of spewing shit from my mouth."

Oh that's just adorable. TheDoc is known to copy my insults verbatim but this is just too hilarious. I mean word for word. Can you get any more embarrassing than that? It's no wonder why nobody takes you seriously.

Verbatim? .... is that another spew, errrrr I mean lie? Let's see what google says "site:gfy.com "spewing shit from my mouth" Damn, zero results...

Verbatim.... Would you like to change your spew?

Ouch....

Look up results for Translation: (insert insult here). Poor guy. When he gets embarrassed, he has to make up some shit like he caught someone in a lie. Truly upsetting to see someone with this sad mindset.



Owned.

Damn, the power of your insult spew really cut me down... ouch man, let me be the first to give you a :thumbsup

Please, as always - I welcome you to keep posting. If your defense is nothing but posting spew... then thanks man!

You are one odd person, I will give you that.


And we wait.....

Once again, it makes no sense to engage the dining room table in a discussion. It only knows how to be one thing, and thats all there is to it.