i am not sure what you are getting at? do i really want to know what? are you saying it doesn't matter wtf i do because i am old and therefor have saggy skin and would not look good standing next to you?

i go to the beach and vaca every year, i have no probs taking my shirt off- ever.

i have more a prob putting a shirt on! lolz.

the key for me was to figure out where my daily max carbs needed to be. it's ~ 30g/day. then sitting back and going with my body adjusting to getting energy from fat. that was pretty weird.

i've read a lot about the ckd diet, cycling keto to gain muscle at the same time. it's even more focused and refined than what i just did.

yea im honestly nervous about the energy transition, i heard its like hitting a brick wall

it's scary at times, beyond feeling hungry. not unlike soaking in a hot bath for a long time then getting up and standing up super fast- out of gas! but after about 2-3 weeks i acclimated.

i know someone will prolly bust my balls over that but it's documented that's what happens when the body transitions to using fat for energy.

not looking forward to that phase of my training to say the least

congrats on losing the 75 eh. i like natural foods and they make up the lion's share of my diet.

i like beer too and find that between the months of july and december i have my share.

hahah, not to any extreme level but i've noticed this cycle after taking a look at myself in a variety of ways.

You can't cut that final body fat on a low cal diet. You need High protien and complex carbs and animal fat. No processed foods at all, no wheat or processed sugars of any kind. You also need to work out like crazy.

i just reviewed my notes and here's a couple of observations:

1. in retrospect, the holidays really messed this diet up, it requires that my system adjust to it, so everytime i grubbed a holiday meal/beverage i was actually halting any progress and having to start over. even though it was technically only a *cheat day*

but once i got through new years and i adjusted (2weeks) blam the weight was dripping off, i could grab my love handles daily and feel them getting smaller. there were several days where i dropped 3 pounds each day. not in a row.

2. in the afternoons, coffee helps with energy, or a nap. one or the other.

3. my daily energy level flipped- before i would have more energy in the mornings but on this diet i've been a zombie in the mornings and have even adjusted my work day to start after noon and work into the late evening.

that being said, i think the delays contributed to the 2:1 fat/lean loss. because once this cycles up, the flab dissolves.