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xxxjay 02-08-2010 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberAge-Dave (Post 16827878)
You spelled straightdonwthetubes.com wrong, that is why long domains suck. How do I know that, I just copied and pasted it to get me some free porn. :Oh crap

Nobody type domains into browers, they google them:
http://www.google.com/search?q=strai...ient=firefox-a

xxxjay 02-08-2010 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Linkster (Post 16827962)
Jay - you know I wish you and Dan all the good luck (you dont really need it) - and will see ya soon. Let me know if you need any help down the road or any links

Hey man...I sent you an ICQ...yes, I am interested

datatank 02-08-2010 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyberage-dave (Post 16827878)
you spelled straightdonwthetubes.com wrong, that is why long domains suck. How do i know that, i just copied and pasted it to get me some free porn. :oh crap

lol.......

Semi-Retired-Dave 02-08-2010 09:16 PM

Jay, the free Cam site should do pretty well. That will make you Rich for sure. Pay your girls a flat 50 bucks an hour and open the chat to everyone. Free chatting, free fucking, free masturbating, free cam2cam, free VIP.

The world's first free live fuck show.

Lets see how many people are going to have this by next week.

Linkster 02-08-2010 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxjay (Post 16828004)
Hey man...I sent you an ICQ...yes, I am interested

replied and will do :thumbsup

xxxjay 02-08-2010 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberAge-Dave (Post 16828028)
Lets see how many people are going to have this by next week.

Yep, I am the industry's guinea pig.

Semi-Retired-Dave 02-08-2010 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxjay (Post 16828057)
Yep, I am the industry's guinea pig.

It may actually work pretty good, you don't need to upsell to cam sites anymore but you can have members buy the girls gifts and tip them. :thumbsup

I can do the Age Verifying for you so you have legit people on the site. Hmm..we are getting somewhere here.

Porno Dan 02-08-2010 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 16827055)
along with my other questions above, i have another question now,

don't tubes update with *exclusive* content every day all day?

There is no tube site other than ours that has excluisve content on it

We shoot anywhere from nine to fifteen scenes per week.

Porno Dan 02-08-2010 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by will76 (Post 16827224)
Are you paying a ton of money to make your own custom, exclusive content to add to it every day ?

there lies the problem. Sure tube sites with full length videos can make sales, but can you profit. If your content is dirt cheap or stolen you likely can. If you are paying to have custom content made to update a tube site, no way in hell you will make money. Sure he probably has a lot of content to kick it off with, but sooner or later he will run out and if he is really going to update it everyday with his own custom, exclusive content he will have a lot more cost than most tube sites.

It's my exclusive content that we using for the site.

I have been shooting content for over ten years and no one in this industry is as cost effective as I am.

My company has numerous revenues streams; live shows, US DVD sales, foregin DVD sales, worldwide broadcast, foreign liscening deals, mobile, subscription based sites, video on demand etc...

We are look at this as another revenue stream, one that Jay and I feel has the potential to be very, very lucrative.

xxxjay 02-08-2010 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberAge-Dave (Post 16828071)
It may actually work pretty good, you don't need to upsell to cam sites anymore but you can have members buy the girls gifts and tip them. :thumbsup

I can do the Age Verifying for you so you have legit people on the site. Hmm..we are getting somewhere here.

Interesting.

Hit me up Dave.

[email protected] or 310-666-5449

FrozenJag 02-08-2010 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Linkster (Post 16827962)
Jay - you know I wish you and Dan all the good luck (you dont really need it) - and will see ya soon. Let me know if you need any help down the road or any links

Linkster can you hit me up pls.
352987817

SleazyDream 02-08-2010 11:45 PM

i've already wacked off to it...............

JD 02-09-2010 12:23 AM

sweet typo domain

ilbb 02-09-2010 12:31 AM

good luck with the concept. The only thing I don't like is the long hard to remember domain :(

Porno Dan 02-09-2010 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by JustDaveXxx (Post 16824842)

Both of these guys are pretty smart and have accomplished a lot in the adult business covering very different areas.

Both guys give the illusions of being stupid, but are very far from it. Porno Dan built out a Immoral productions in a shity economy. He has 8+ DVD titles a month, Live shows and broadcast deals all around the world. All this while pretending to be a blithering idiot.

XXXJay, well everyone knows what he has accomplished and you can look at his sig, if you dont know.

My point is that these guys are very smart and cover every single aspect of this adult industry from production, dvd sales,internet sales, internet marketing promotions,etc. Very long list, but you get the point.


This concept is very bold and outside of the box and i wish them both the best of luck:thumbsup


Thank you very, very much :thumbsup

MetaMan 02-09-2010 12:51 AM

your design layout is utter crap, you look like a paysite when you hit the page and will lose surfers very fast.

wtf is the point of having a paysite look on a tube? you are defeating the entire purpose of it being a tube.

tubes do well because of content delivery your site screams "im going to have to signup to something"

whoever told you to have such a bulky header and menu bar should be fired.

MetaMan 02-09-2010 12:54 AM

your search is also poorly placed
on channels your thumbs do not maximize space either
and the channels titles are to small
those thumbs are to small also look to much like "video thumbs"

MetaMan 02-09-2010 12:57 AM

your middle part should be put in on a greyish bg so the main bg of the pipes doesnt look over repetative.

then eliminate the yellow bar have white titles on the movies and yellow titles tags for the heading.

your header for sure needs to be cut entirely and have content moved way up. it is important.

MetaMan 02-09-2010 01:01 AM

http://www.*************************/...ina-wolf-.html

on pages like this where it says "movie info" have the movie titles you are shooting yourself in the foot on SE for no reason.

your title tags are also not named properly

thats about all i see.

MetaMan 02-09-2010 01:25 AM

last thing i think it was mentioned your domain is utterly stupid and horrid. surfers dont get the joke and you are only trying to immaturely impress GFY "webmasters" with it.

invest in something shorter and quality that surfers can relate with.

o and i would start with less ads for now, surfers will gain trust and then you add ads thats how it is done this way. once you have that base it sometimes doesnt matter how much you smack on their. it is all about that base.

this way you can move up alot more content also. SEs will like you more also.

MetaMan 02-09-2010 01:31 AM

last thing your header layout should not change from index to movie page, it makes it appear as a tour and some surfers will bail.

do yourself a favor and listen to what i have written, i spent a half hour breaking down your site. i am helping for free. drop your balls and make the changes it will help you in the long run.

MetaMan 02-09-2010 01:48 AM

not gonna lie id scrap the overdone yellow also, way to much for a site dedicated to browsing. whoever told you they knew how to do tube sites was obviously lying to you. unless you spent like $300.

o and your menu should be txt not images, shooting yourself in the foot their also.

http://www.*************************/...andle_wide.gif

and what are these useless toilet rack looking bars? scrap those. waste of load time.

your footer is also massive and in the long run will take clicks away from your ads.

the background is pipes also when i think pipes i think plumbing, when i think plumbing i think urine and shit, and unless thats what your promoting i dont see how it would do anything but cause a negative turn on for horney surfers.

JD 02-09-2010 01:50 AM

hey Jay, I'll re-design it for a perm link to monstersofblog in the footer ;)

JD 02-09-2010 01:52 AM

hey MetaMan you got ICQ? Wanted to ask your "professional opinion" on something

MetaMan 02-09-2010 01:58 AM

i dont use icq anymore.

i will send you an email tomorrow im going to pass out here in a sec.

xxxjay 02-09-2010 02:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetaMan (Post 16828447)
not gonna lie id scrap the overdone yellow also, way to much for a site dedicated to browsing. whoever told you they knew how to do tube sites was obviously lying to you. unless you spent like $300.

o and your menu should be txt not images, shooting yourself in the foot their also.

http://www.*************************/...andle_wide.gif

and what are these useless toilet rack looking bars? scrap those. waste of load time.

your footer is also massive and in the long run will take clicks away from your ads.

the background is pipes also when i think pipes i think plumbing, when i think plumbing i think urine and shit, and unless thats what your promoting i dont see how it would do anything but cause a negative turn on for horney surfers.

I threw this site together between Saturday and Sunday before the superbowl. There is still a ton of refining to do.

WITH THE BIRTH OF ART, COMES THE BIRTH OF THE CRITIC:

http://www.halfthedeck.com/images/urineads1.jpg

Get a life metaman.

I did this shit.

All you other assholes just sat around wounding "Will this work?"

Once again, like 2Pac, all eyes on me!

I AM A GOLDEN GOD!

JD 02-09-2010 02:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetaMan (Post 16828463)
i dont use icq anymore.

i will send you an email tomorrow im going to pass out here in a sec.

sounds good brogasm thanks :thumbsup

JD 02-09-2010 02:27 AM

thoughts on what I said jay?

Raf1 02-09-2010 02:30 AM

it might do well for you, but I'm not liking the way this industry is going...

hypedough 02-09-2010 02:40 AM

Good luck with it, just hope its worth putting all your shit up for free to sell ads.

crazytrini85 02-09-2010 03:15 AM

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Originally Posted by xxxjay (Post 16827552)
It's our content, this is how we are choosing to monetize it.

I hope you can. It just doesn't make much sense.

Good luck.

xxxjay 02-09-2010 03:16 AM

on a serious note...i have been emailed by several people who are (or claim to be) players in this game, who say - I stole their idea, or whatever...fact is, it is not that original of an idea...plenty of people have probably had it...television has been ad supported for decades...even a lab rat could comprehend that...however, it takes a crew like Dan and I to throw their nuts on the table and take a risk and say, "I am going to do this"...so, if you are second or third in line to actually grow a pair...that's fine....just bow down and kiss the ring...we are innovators and we did this first.

anyone could have beat us to the punch, but they didn't

for all of the fags that were calling me "irrelevant" earlier in this thread, fuck that shit...it ain't like that

all eyes on me...that's all I can say.

Being a trailblazer is not easy.

DWB 02-09-2010 03:29 AM

While I wish Jay and Dan the best of luck on this ballsy project, I do have mixed emotions about it, because if it succeeds, it will pave the way for a new era in the business, and as a content producer, that is a damn scary new era. The thought of this model turning into the norm, frightens me.

So on one hand I wish you guys all the luck in the word and hope it kicks ass for you. On the other hand, and for my own selfish reasons, I hope it fails like a fuckin' dickhead. :-) lol

Rock on!

magpan 02-09-2010 04:02 AM

Nice work, guys! :)

MrMaxwell 02-09-2010 04:13 AM

HD, if they all can keep from giving all of the super high quality shit away, will be the next big deal. Like B&W versus color. In my eyes, the future will be all of the content free with an option to purchase high quality versions of it. Especially if they ever get that 3D coating right.

The tour will be all of their videos. The monthly membership model is also going to die. They pay $20-$50/mo for a broadband connection they think entitles them to the whole internet. You want them to pay $30/mo for YOUR site? Especially with 1M others out there looking just like it? Really? Why? Better be a god damned miracle, some of the most niched niches out there STILL have competitors, $30 for your site.. a commitment.. Why? No, they won't, not for much longer they won't. If they WILL, someone already ripped your shit off, anyway.... YOU won't adapt, they'll STEAL it anyway

The future is all whatever ends up being the STANDARD for quality and LIVE SHIT. Sell the STANDARD, sell something REAL, sell something people NEED, or sell a DREAM. Not this membership model from 1922. Comparing it to houses and cars being given away is pretty stupid.

You give away a car, it's gone. You let them test drive a car, right, you let them see the house before buying, right?? They can walk all through it, inspect it, physically be there. They want to LIVE there they PAY.

Maybe we'll find a way to give it away without letting them share it amongst themselves and put it all over the web.. Probably not.. but if you could, do you not see it as a viable option, letting them see the content and SELLING the premium shit? Alot of businesses make money from 1% ONE PERCENT of the people they service and are WILDLY profitable!

http://itotd.com/articles/295/giving...ng-the-blades/

OR government regulation will happen.. and in this mess of a country, don't ever say never. The government here will come in and rape away your newlywed virgin wifes cherry if they want to and no one will do SHIT but WHINE. But then, as much as I hate govt regs, well, if they DID come in and do that... would things get EASIER for content producers, program owners and affiliates?

Sure, any tom dick or sloppy couldn't log on day one and throw web pages and sites up. But anyone SERIOUS about the business would still be fine.


What if mainstream advertisers some time in the next decade soften up and stop caring if their ads are on adult sites? What if it becomes more socially acceptable? Hmmm... maybe then the content with the BIGGEST TRAFFIC DRIVING FORCE IN THE HISTORY OF MAN will really be WORTH SOMETHING instead of some stupid $30... you think?? How much longer can they all ignore the power of it.... you don't think a million big companies would LOVE to be able to benefit from the traffic we can drive??


I'm done rambling now but the point I am making is, no one knows what the future will hold. What I can tell you for SURE is that five years from now it will NOT be the ones who held on for dear life to this stupid old business model who are still standing. It will not be about hustling $30 memberships.

$30 memberships are the dealer on the corner in Beverly Hills..
How long is he going to last?

TheSenator 02-09-2010 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 16827440)
I do. http://grampland.com/mmpage.html is my site I'd like to do it with. I would put you on the left hand side under: "What's Hot"

let me know

Sounds good :) ICQ me 61661595

Fletch XXX 02-09-2010 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 16823787)
full length scenes.

LOL this is hilarious

PR_Dave 02-09-2010 06:38 AM

If all the content contains "Porno Dan" this tube does not stand a chance.

All the big tubes have 1000's of full scenes, Straight Down The Tubes has what? 100 videos?

Don't know what all the hype here is about, this is not a game changer.

The download button doesn't even work. Fix that. Also you should be running some banners to upsell the paysites the actual scene is from.

:pimp

SteveHardeman 02-09-2010 07:20 AM

Whoa man, this thing scares the shit out of me. I certainly don't wish you ill-will but if this succeeds, that means I'm pretty much out of business. You seem to have a healthy grasp of the fact that it may or may not succeed and you're just sticking your neck out there to see what happens so sounds like you have a good plan. I guess, good luck? I'm not really sure what to say about this. Just don't steal my shit, k? :-)

pornlaw 02-09-2010 10:20 AM

Hey Dan -- how did you ever get Al Sharpton to sign a model release for that crazy ad with him feeding some chick a sandwich !!! Thats nuts !!

Good luck !!!


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