Without taking sides, no matter who is wrong or right and no matter what was said to who and where it was said,

i think both this thread and this letter should never have made it to public forum.

after reading 3 pages of replies, i dont even remember who posted the letter but i beleive that is in violation of something, lol


This is a private matter and should have been dealt with privately between the 2 parties involved.


Sorry if you dont agree, just my 2 cents.

Technically, it's a violation of copyright, I suppose, and just to give the attorneys some damages to sue for, let me here state that I will now NEVER consider them should I need representation.

"I think Rory owes the board an apology."

I think this is idiotic.

A man takes serious offense to something said about him on a board, he thinks it seriously affects his business and business contacts in a negative way .... i would go to a lawyer also i think.


I can also bet that half the stuff the lawyer said were never said by rory ... those lawyers have ways to make things sound alot worst than they actually are.


Is/was he right? I dunno .... its not my place to judge, but in the same hand it isnt yours or anyone elses to judge either.

I agree 100%!

Too bad that the other party involved decided to attack me and make the entire issue public on GFY months ago. Now SleazyDream posts a private document of mine here as well. WTF is that all about?

I am gonna call my attorney and sue SleazyDream ......as soon as my mommy brings me some milk and cookies.

Get a clue! This is the Go Fuck Yourself board. I'm sure Miss Manners has a board where people are much more polite and considerate. You apparently want this to be a place where we have to tippy-toe around and consult our attorneys before we say anything controversial.

Agaion, I think this is only because after the big argument thread was done. Weeks later ( guessing) when the site was released Rory made a program announcement.

How would you like it if you made a Design Announcement or a Content Announcement and someone came in the thread and said you were giving models drugs or were known for not paying models or you were known for stealing designs etc? (not directed to anyone)

I would be pissed if just because I was in a previous argument someone came in a new thread about my latest product and bashed me personally trying to make me look bad, as well as the sites, and his company.

That is why action was taken.

:2 cents:

"You apparently want this to be a place where we have to tippy-toe around and consult our attorneys before we say anything controversial."


Oh common now ...

never said tippy toe anything, but lets face it ... do you know how many blacklists or lists of "people not too deal with" this guy rory just made it on just because that letter was posted here?


People are afraid to deal with him, when in actuality he didnt do anything more than try to sever his ties and relations with the other party.

Any webmaster who is anything reads this board im sure, and this is what they see ... what kind of rep do you think he has now?


If he REALLY wanted to be a prick he would have started the workings and requested a settlement fee or something like that.


I really dont want to get involved in who is right or wrong, but even you must realize this issue had no business in an open forum.

Its very easy to jump to conclusions when your are not preseneted with all the facts. That letter was not hey we are going to court , it was a letter that said quit talking shit (eveywhere, not on GFY, everywhere) and in exchange we would not pursue the moneys owed by Aaron to my company. The lawyer is in no way related to me or a personal friend, this is a business matter and should have remained one. When this starts effecting you and your family as opposed to words on a screen then judge. The fact that you people seem to think its acceptable to share someone elses medical shit on a business board is childish and I sure hope it never happens to you. The events that lead up to that letter and the reasoning behind sending the letter are and will remain a personal matter between me and Aaron. Judging based upon a personal letter posted by him is taking a very narrow minded opinion. If this is all Rorys fault and he is the one being inappropriate here then I imagine that a judge would see it that way as well when presented with the circumstances. The original issue stems from me paying Aaron $2000 for shoots, tell me how Iam screwing somebody if Iam the one paying them?

I dont mind bad opinions of my site .... thats why I post it here. Thats not the issue, the issue of someone pursueing a personal vengeance against me and trying the best he can to ruin my business is not fair and I dont care how many friends you have, I will try and stop it. Iam trying to be as reasonable as possible here, all I wanted was the name dragging (no not just on GFY) to stop, simple as that. This could have been a peaceful solution to a problem that had gotten way outta hand. Iam a reasonable , logical, nice guy - why couldnt this have been settled in somewhat of a civil manner?

*grin* Lawyers? Fuck em all! Pity he presumably got paid for writing this dribble - $750 has gotta be good entertainment value tho!

Bullshit.

He drew first blood months ago.

He ASKED for my opinions on his program. I gave them....He did not like them.

I love ya Fletch but I think you are wrong on this one.

As for what if somebody trashed me...It has happend and it will happen again. I do not give a flying fuck. I particularly like the part in the letter where the shaver refers to GFY as "...a valuable and respected source of adult web business connections..."

Who does he think he is talking to or fooling? I am pretty sure that I have been hanging around GFY a little longer than he has and I do not exactly have the same vision of GFY.

It is WELL documented that:

A: Rory attacked me and brought the iniitial issue to GFY.

B: Rory not only agreed to me keeping the $750 but HE is the one who suggested it.

C: Rory specifically asked for my input in that thread. Did he really expect me to blow smoke up his ass?

Rory:

Forget the ego man - don't let any comment outta GFY be the basis of "upsetting" ya - there are more relevant things in life:)

Do yourself a favor and research things before you post about them.

:2 cents:

I didn't read this entire thread... but am I the only one that noticed this?

Ok, so then why did the "lawyer" get so bent out of shape at all the things that AaronM said about Rory on GFY?

WAIT A MINUTE!!!!!!!
WAIT A MINUTE!!!!!!!

I think I just figured something out. This whole Rory business is a brilliant marketing scheme between AaronM, and Rory(aka BoneProne). Good one guys, you almost had me going there for a second.

Yeah, I am wrong.

Its my opinion.

You posted about the guys mental health and shit in a totally unrelated thread.

This has nothing to do with the thread you attacked his company, his mental health and his rep.

I dont care who is right or wrong. I was just saying if I made an announcement and someone was yapping about previous bullshit and trying to make me look bad I would be pissed.

How can I be 'wrong' about that?

It was my 2 cents, you cant tell me I am 'wrong.'

hahahahah

It goes like this.

1. you 2 fight.

2. weeks pass. (again guesing

3. the site you were shooting for is released.

4. rory makes program announcement.

5. you bash him, his business and his mental stability in the same thread.

Bottom line id be pissed too. Hell you tried to convince me his business was shady in the thread, and I know girls who have posed for his site!

Call me wrong all you want, its all good dawg, it was just

:2 cents: now I guess its 4 cents hehehe

:winkwink:

Rory,

My own personal advice ....


I dont know what went on here, nor do i care. Nor will i accept your side of the story aposed to someone elses.

I am not in the position to judge and i will not even attempt it.

I recomend that you contact GFY staff and have this forum and any other forum that gives reference to your legal/personal/medical issues removed from the board.

This is your business and i think spreading it to every big mouth webmaster on here has just got to be a bad move.


If i were you, i would have already contacted GFY staff and if they didnt respond i would grab that lawyer of yours and have him just find the right people to contact .... not saying sue GFY ... just saying he may be able to get in touch with some "higher ups" that you or I dont have access to.

Without threatening i would ask them nicely, for the interest of all parties involved, please remove these threads. PERIOD


I sometimes discuss alot of personal issues on the board also, i know its tempting because you get answers and feedback ... but this is an issue that can ruin your reputation, your career, and your name if it has not already.

You will find theres nothing more valuable in this biz than your name, once it is dead ... so is your career.


Do yourself a favor and protect it from here on, get these threads removed and settle this with the other party ASAP and in private.

:2 cents:

Damn you're good. We can NEVER get anything by you can we?

You are now the official Boneprone Family P.I.

BP4L!

Actually, I joked about it because of his behavior. I had no clue he really did have a problem. He is the one who came to the board and spoke up about it.

If I say that you fuck your sister and it turns out you really do then why would you be mad at me for it?

A) Rory posted on a board that he knew Aaron read asking for his $2000. Was brought to the board after several weeks of Aaron not responding. (That thread was deleted by Wizzo at the request of AaronM so will be hard to document something he had deleted).

B) The fact that there was no written terms agreed upon by both parties in regards to $150 kill fees makes charging them against Oregon law. My choose to seek the money has nothing to do with the validity of the claim, dont get them confused.

C) Rory asked for input on his site after Aaron decided he was going to post a smartass comment on Rorys program thread. What is the reasoning behind posting on that thread in the first place Aaron? Instead of giving your opinion on Rorys site you decided that you would like to give an opinion or Rorys business ethics and question the fact that I pay my affiliates. The problem is that I have never not payed an affiliate and I have never done anything for which one should question my business ethics. We had our arguing done several months ago , the fact that it continued led me to make a decision to try and end it in the most ethical way I knew how to. This should be over, why does Aaron not wanna leave my business alone?

Rory

"I particularly like the part in the letter where the shaver refers to GFY as "...a valuable and respected source of adult web business connections..." "



So your saying it isnt?


I have learned a great deal from this board, its the first board i ever joined.

If someone decided to bully you or make you shut you up for an opinion you expressed here, and the opinion you expressed was not one that served your competitive business interests, or intended to serve those of your friends or partners, but was merely a frank assessment of a publicly discussed situation, what recourse would you have if not the strength of the "community"?

anything less than free speech is an insult to the intelligence of the group. no one wants to communicate with someone who is going to whine like an overdomesticated bitch. getting personal with this kind of drama is misdirected effort.

No worries. :glugglug

I agree.

Im not in position to say what you knew at the time or not bro, thats why I said it was just my 2 cents.

I have nothing against either one of you guys.

:winkwink:

ok, that is fucking it!

I am DEEPLY offended by EVERYBODY and starting tomorrow will sue all of you...and maybe
http://allofem.com too!

Stating an opinion is fine, making false accusations in effort to ruin ones business is not.

thanks, buddy. :)

bp4l

oh that is total BS ... if you have an argument with your neighbor and it ends up in court .... now you come to GFY and find its posted all over the board, wouldnt you fucking flip????


dont gimme that shit about free speach, this was a PRIVATE matter, should have been discussed in PRIVATE ...

Yes fine its great to get input from a crowd, but on an issue as delicate as this, maybe the crowd should stay the f*ck out of it and let the court decide.

:2 cents:
:2 cents:

Aaron,
when do you want my reperesentation to begin?

I am ready to depose Rory RIGHT NOW

There have been many topics on this board that were funny or had cause for smartass remarks and jokes. However, this is also supposed to be a board for webmasters to network and promote eachother, isn't it?

So Rory, fuck Aaron! He is a punk with too much time on his hands. If he truly thinks that this board is here only to talk shit, then that just shows how little of the business he really knows. There is much more to this industry than conventions and lap dances Aaron. People like you give us all a bad name. I, for one, wish you weren't representing the adult industry because you make it seem cheap and dirty.

I applaud Rory for being a businessman and actually testing uncharted territory with CumKaraoke. Not many here would be so bold. And when his site blazes a new trail for everyone to follow, this stupid thread will be a reminder for Aaron that "I knew that guy when...". If the webmasters that read this thread are so small minded that they choose to favor an amateur photographer, who has contributed very little to this business, over a guy that is actually doing his part to make us all some money, than I will avoid those people like the plague!:feels-hot

oh that is total BS ... if you have an argument with your neighbor and it ends up in court .... now you come to GFY and find its posted all over the board, wouldnt you fucking flip????
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how old are you?

in United States of America we have OPEN COURT system and every law suit is a PUBLIC RECORD easily obtained on the internet.

NEXT!

I am sorry...Did you just quote me?

I was invited to give my opinion on your program.

Rory:

"Wanted to announce our partnership program going live and our restructuring of http://www.cumkaraoke.com"

My reply: "Do you have any idea how hard it is for me to bite my tongue in treads like this?

I would like to encourage EVERYBODY to send Rory's site some traffic. I am serious too....No joke.

I am just going to sit back and watch it all unfold."

Rory's reply:

"Why bite your tongue? I got most my money back you got some for your troubles...... its all in the past. I would like to hear what your honest opinion is though since you had involvement in it at one time, and I wanna see what you think of the finished product. Slam it if you think it sucks , lemme know what you think of it though.

Rory"

You clearly started a post about your program. Your program consists of your site and the people who run it. It is a package deal. You then clearly asked for my opinions and even went so far as to tell me to slam it if I think it sucks.

In My Honest Opinion....

Your program sucks. You wanted feedback, you got it.

Quit crying. :waaaaahh

People like you give us all a bad name. I, for one, wish you weren't representing the adult industry because you make it seem cheap and dirty.
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shit, another Picasso of porn....
yeah, tell me about your porn and it's artistic value...

porn IS cheap and DIRTY and a good way for any retard to make money...

NEXT!

The fact that he made the decision to go back and forth with my brother on that same program thread must have been a 'guess' as well. I have already lost my brother and mother over business shit and he knows it , and the fact that he wants to play a little "O what did I do" is the issue here. This is not someone sharing his opinion on a board, this is someone whos sole intention is to ruin my business or day or whatever and it needs to come to an end.

Colette
Am I allowed to speak?

Registered: Sep 2002
Location: Pohahahaand, OR
Posts: 5


No.

Care to tell everybody your relation to Rory?

Thats way different than saying he doesnt pay affiliates and shit dude. 'Word on the street in PDX is....' - type of shit.

Again, you tried to convince me his company treats their models bad. And I know some of them, as well as my girl knowing them.

Again man, I have nothing against you, but this is silly.

You purposely tried to make HIM, not his site, look bad. He asked your opinion of his SITE, 'the finished product'

How does the rest of the quoted things in that letter have to do with his site?

Id be pissed too.

Rory, if you INVITE criticism, don't cry when you get it.

common man, take that wannabe lawyer shit somewhere else ....

i never said its illigal to discuss it here, i said it has no business here.


on another note, i dont know even half the story, but AaronM if i were you, i think i would see that letter as found money man, i mean first you owe him money, then you get a letter saying ytou dont owe him money, lol ... id say "ok peace"


serge, no disrespect intended, just trying to make a point .... if this were my business i would be absolutely furious that it is exposed on a board as heavily traveled as this.

With the exposure this thread has gotten, it can absolutely ruin rory AND AaronM in this biz ..... just saying that is not needed.

sorry to jump on ya




:thumbsup

:2 cents:

Is it possible that you and Aaron both overestimate his credibility and influence?

this thread is so fucked up..
almost all who are on AaronM's side know he's wrong but they're kissing his ass... :321GFY

It all directs back to his program. I never said he did not pay his affialiates. Please do not put words in my mouth. I gave feedback about his program based on my opinions AFTER doing business directly with him.

I have review the thread again and I do not see where I tried to convince you of anything. I also checked my ICQ logs and we never discussed it.

If I overlooked something, please let me know. In the meantime....Here is the thred in question.

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...pagenu mber=1

I do invite it, however I dont invite personal medical shit or untrue statements about me paying my affiliates, etc. This is not about someone posting opinions , but posting lies about someones business with the sole intention to harm their business is wrong and I wont take it. Also the fact that my medication is something he feels he needs to continue posting about is garbage as well.