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SleazyDream 02-20-2010 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 16875831)
I really had nothing against barefootsies till this happened... and it is possible BW set him up - but barefootsies posting in my thread about BW almost immediatly and the evidence being from the day before really doesn't look good.

it's not enough to convict in a criminal court - it's not beyond a reasonable doubt.

it IS enough to convict in a civil court on a balance of probabilities.

kind of like OJ......

i want to say that again. I really had no problems with BF till this....

MoreMagic 02-20-2010 10:40 PM

Shit almost had a good laugh. :(

ShellyCrash 02-20-2010 10:56 PM

I don't know Barefootsies personally, but I will say that it's highly unlikely someone would take the time to create a fake nic, access gfy with socks cap / proxies, and then just drop their personal ICQ # in there. You would have to have brain damage. It's like sending someone anonymous hate mail and dropping your phone number in the envelope.

Anything's possible, but it would be a massive brain fart on the part of the poster.

Additionally, from reading his posts, I think if Barefootsies was going to create a fake nic to go completely buck wild on people he would come up with some better lines than the childish and simple taunts that emanated from Black Widow.

Robocrop 02-20-2010 11:13 PM

I have noticed one thing tho, and I dont accuse anyone but I looked over BW's post, this is what I noticed.

1. BW seems to write in a very proper way, meaning always a dot after every sentence and always a capital letter after the dot.

2. In some posts BW writes like a retard with only small letters and hardly any dots at all.

3. By taking a look at BF's post, it matches up with BW very much imo, but...alot of grown up people use correct sentence building.

4. Seems like BF tends to pop up in almost every thread BW has posted in, and for being a "anti-troll" guy..he is inside sleazys threads alot.

5. And we all know BF is pretty good at bumping his own biz threads, so perhaps BW is BF's "fuck around nick"

But! I am on 3 forums and see BF post on them, I hardly think BF is BW in this matter, seems like the guy is looking for business and sometimes wanna put his 2c in where he thinks it fits.

So my conclusion to this: I find it hard to believe that BF = BW.

If he is.....well what a fucking retard, if not ...have a good night people!

http://f.imagehost.org/0617/val.jpg

fatfoo 02-20-2010 11:16 PM

Two nicknames is two-faced. Something fishy.

Hmm...

Like a flat fish that has two sides to the face, yeah?

papill0n 02-20-2010 11:28 PM

the drama llama is strong is this thread

SleazyDream 02-21-2010 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 16875831)
I really had nothing against barefootsies till this happened... and it is possible BW set him up - but barefootsies posting in my thread about BW almost immediatly and the evidence being from the day before really doesn't look good.

it's not enough to convict in a criminal court - it's not beyond a reasonable doubt.

it IS enough to convict in a civil court on a balance of probabilities.

kind of like OJ......

i'm going to repost this one more time

Vjo 02-21-2010 12:17 AM

rest easy bf.. "I would not be convicted by a jury of my peers"






one more


seeandsee 02-21-2010 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 16875706)

this pic is EPIC

HandballJim 02-21-2010 12:48 AM

aaaaa not me, what two nicks....? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
http://www.leperledelcuore.it/script...wp_01_1024.jpg

HandballJim 02-21-2010 12:52 AM

http://mooviemart.ie/Catalogue/Image_Files/LiarLiar.jpg

kush 02-21-2010 04:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 16875831)
I really had nothing against barefootsies till this happened... and it is possible BW set him up - but barefootsies posting in my thread about BW almost immediatly and the evidence being from the day before really doesn't look good.

it's not enough to convict in a criminal court - it's not beyond a reasonable doubt.

it IS enough to convict in a civil court on a balance of probabilities.

kind of like OJ......

Balance of probabilities is based on logic.

I think your logic is wrong.

Barefootsies has been a contributing member for years. Intelligent posts, helpful posts, and a sense of humor, and sometimes controversial, which logically makes him a target (you should know). But he has a genuine business interest in his reputation. Nothing really to gain from bashing you except perhaps a laugh, but there are tons of those on GFY.

Blackwidow on the other hand is a troll, stupid posts, and hasn't been around very long. People like that enjoy messing with others on boards, you, Barefootsies, whoever. It seems more likely Blackwidow would kick up some shit with Barefootsies than for Barefootsies to risk his reputation for making fun of you through fake nick.
:2 cents:

kush 02-21-2010 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by ShellyCrash (Post 16875941)
I don't know Barefootsies personally, but I will say that it's highly unlikely someone would take the time to create a fake nic, access gfy with socks cap / proxies, and then just drop their personal ICQ # in there. You would have to have brain damage. It's like sending someone anonymous hate mail and dropping your phone number in the envelope.

Anything's possible, but it would be a massive brain fart on the part of the poster.

Additionally, from reading his posts, I think if Barefootsies was going to create a fake nic to go completely buck wild on people he would come up with some better lines than the childish and simple taunts that emanated from Black Widow.

Exactly!

Oracle Porn 02-21-2010 04:35 AM

kush you love gfy drama lately huh? :)

SleazyDream 02-21-2010 04:39 AM

the icq came up in a thread asking about paypall/epassport money exchanges...


does anyone know if BF has a history of doing this for people.

if he does - i go from 80% to 98% sure it was him.

If he has a history of NEVER doing this - I go from 80% sure it was him to 80% sure he was set up.

http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?p=...4#post16871564

Nicky 02-21-2010 04:42 AM

I'm not convinced at all.

kush 02-21-2010 04:43 AM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 16876385)
the icq came up in a thread asking about paypall/epassport money exchanges...


does anyone know if BF has a history of doing this for people.

if he does - i go from 80% to 98% sure it was him.

If he has a history of NEVER doing this - I go from 80% sure it was him to 80% sure he was set up.

http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?p=...4#post16871564

There ya go, that would be interesting to know and build a better argument one way or the other. Someone will probably look it up I'm sure :)

Nicky 02-21-2010 04:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kush (Post 16876395)
There ya go, that would be interesting to know and build a better argument one way or the other. Someone will probably look it up I'm sure :)

I'm pretty sure black_widow just posted footsies ICQ for fun hoping someone would pick up on It or whatever, he was a strange fucker.

SleazyDream 02-21-2010 04:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 16876385)
the icq came up in a thread asking about paypall/epassport money exchanges...


does anyone know if BF has a history of doing this for people.

if he does - i go from 80% to 98% sure it was him.

If he has a history of NEVER doing this - I go from 80% sure it was him to 80% sure he was set up.

http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?p=...4#post16871564

I did a search and I coudn't find any instance of BF doing a transaction like this.

I'm starting to think he was set up.

it fell pretty good though....
BF was first in my thread about BW...
evidence was set up the day before...


mind you BW posted a ton of negative threads about me the day before - maybe hoping I'd pick up on it......


either way - i'm really starting to think BF was set up here....

pocketkangaroo 02-21-2010 05:16 AM

Black_Widow was a troll from day one and you guys don't think he'd post someone else's ICQ for shits? You guys got trolled hard by that guy.

Klen 02-21-2010 06:32 AM

He cannot be black widow,beacuse then he would bump his own sale threads with it while he dont do it.Atleast that i will do if i would have fake nick :)

CaptainHowdy 02-21-2010 07:00 AM

http://scrapetv.com/News/News%20Page...ts-on-fire.jpg

ShellyCrash 02-21-2010 09:09 AM

Just going on posting style Black Widow writes alot like FMLTube. I'd be curious to know if the ban and join dates match up.

stickyfingerz 02-21-2010 09:18 AM

http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?p=...2#post14622762 From Florida

http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?p=...8#post14634008 is black

http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?p=...9#post16617549 Bf Im pretty sure has checking lol

http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?p=...0#post16617960 BF is a soccer fan? lmao

http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?p=...8#post16534898 Asking about ccbill or nats for affiliate program? umm ok lol

http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?p=...6#post16449506 Was unaware that BF sent traffic to other programs at all.... interesting.


http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?p=...8#post16362698 BF is a coder now? Interesting because he hires out for most all of his site setup work I belive.


http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?p=...3#post16810293 Bf does mailing? I don't think so...


http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?p=...7#post16853157 I don't think bf uses epass hardly, so doubtful he would be doing a xtransfer with The Demon.


http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?p=...4#post16871564 And again BF doesn't really use epass at all. Never seen him do any epass or paypal xtransfers and I've even asked him a few times in the past and he didn't do them then either.

beerptrol 02-21-2010 09:43 AM

So all it takes is someone saying contact me (insert someone else's email or icq) and that automaticly makes it their fake nic. Don't know either of them, but I'd be damn sure I had more evidence before I posted and trashed someone's name

Quagmire 02-21-2010 12:44 PM

So when does the request go in to have the thread title changed?

PornMD 02-21-2010 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 16876426)
I did a search and I coudn't find any instance of BF doing a transaction like this.

I'm starting to think he was set up.

it fell pretty good though....
BF was first in my thread about BW...
evidence was set up the day before...


mind you BW posted a ton of negative threads about me the day before - maybe hoping I'd pick up on it......


either way - i'm really starting to think BF was set up here....

You going to apologize to BF for jumping the gun and smearing his reputation?

SleazyDream 02-21-2010 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 16877291)

http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?p=...7#post16853157 I don't think bf uses epass hardly, so doubtful he would be doing a xtransfer with The Demon.


http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?p=...4#post16871564 And again BF doesn't really use epass at all. Never seen him do any epass or paypal xtransfers and I've even asked him a few times in the past and he didn't do them then either.

actually these last two don't really help him.

a fake nickname would mean fake alter ego.

there is evidence here if one digs deeper to prove without a doubt if it is BF or not.

lets keep digging and be sure

borked 02-21-2010 03:26 PM

Rule #8:

8. False accusations against a person or company. We all want to know what companies and individuals have done you wrong. Just make sure you back any claims you make up with solid proof. If you plan on calling someone a scammer, liar, cheat, or anything else, have your proof in order and post it with your claim. False accusations will be grounds for immediate banning.


Can someone please tell me how this thread does not go against this rule? It seems there is no solid proof, and so wild accusations that cannot be substantiated were made.

borked 02-21-2010 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 16880983)
there is evidence here if one digs deeper to prove without a doubt if it is BF or not.

lets keep digging and be sure


You should probably have done that prior to starting the thread. :2 cents:

Double trouble 02-21-2010 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HandballJim (Post 16876072)
aaaaa not me, what two nicks....? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
http://www.leperledelcuore.it/script...wp_01_1024.jpg

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:thumbsup

chupachups 02-21-2010 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by borked (Post 16880999)
Rule #8:

Can someone please tell me how this thread does not go against this rule? It seems there is no solid proof, and so wild accusations that cannot be substantiated were made.

The accusation is backed by Eric who warned BF in the Black Widow ban thread.

SleazyDream 02-21-2010 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by borked (Post 16880999)
Rule #8:

8. False accusations against a person or company. We all want to know what companies and individuals have done you wrong. Just make sure you back any claims you make up with solid proof. If you plan on calling someone a scammer, liar, cheat, or anything else, have your proof in order and post it with your claim. False accusations will be grounds for immediate banning.


Can someone please tell me how this thread does not go against this rule? It seems there is no solid proof, and so wild accusations that cannot be substantiated were made.

I backed it up with proof posted on GFY.... burden falls to the evidence.

They were not wild ungrounded accusations. There is references.


I'm very close to retracting it but I'd like a little more digging before I do.

SleazyDream 02-21-2010 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by borked (Post 16881001)
You should probably have done that prior to starting the thread. :2 cents:


liberal hippy

there was more than enough evidence to go public with it.

to make a comparison - if this was in the real world - an arrest would have been made - and that would have gone public. where we are now.

now is what I see as the trial.

if BF fails to defend himself - he's going to look guilty. Simply saying I didn't do it or the proxies don't match doesn't cut it. the evidence is reasonable. people get convicted and set up all the time by others and have to defend themself. Shit I have it happen to me all the time - every week. People sign up with fake credit card accounts on my name, spam, and do all kinds of illegal things implicating me. I've actually had police investigations on such. I was presumed guilty and had to prove my innocence. the idea of innocent till proven guilty is bullshit - when evidence is strong against you - you look guilty and public perception is you are. deal with it.

If BF is guilty - he'll run. Guilty people never want a microscope on them.

If he's innocent he'll properly stand up for himself and not let this go down. If I get enough evidence to prove to me he was set up , I'll publicly retract this accusation and apologize to him. I'm close but I'm not there yet.

dyna mo 02-21-2010 04:14 PM


marcop 02-21-2010 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 16881132)
liberal hippy

there was more than enough evidence to go public with it.

to make a comparison - if this was in the real world - an arrest would have been made - and that would have gone public. where we are now.

now is what I see as the trial.

if BF fails to defend himself - he's going to look guilty. Simply saying I didn't do it or the proxies don't match doesn't cut it. the evidence is reasonable. people get convicted and set up all the time by others and have to defend themself. Shit I have it happen to me all the time - every week. People sign up with fake credit card accounts on my name, spam, and do all kinds of illegal things implicating me. I've actually had police investigations on such. I was presumed guilty and had to prove my innocence. the idea of innocent till proven guilty is bullshit - when evidence is strong against you - you look guilty and public perception is you are. deal with it.

If BF is guilty - he'll run. Guilty people never want a microscope on them.

If he's innocent he'll properly stand up for himself and not let this go down. If I get enough evidence to prove to me he was set up , I'll publicly retract this accusation and apologize to him. I'm close but I'm not there yet.


Can't we all just get along?

SleazyDream 02-21-2010 05:13 PM

also anyone running a fake nick will go with a totally different personality - trying to match the personality is moronic at best

SleazyDream 02-21-2010 05:31 PM

i have a link that does NOT look good for BF where he talks about transfers between epassporte and paypal.....

http://adultwebmaster.porx.eu/index....ted-time-3269/

the link may be blocked because it's another board and i'm not trying to promote another board in any way. just investigate this. My apologies if this is a violation of GFY rules and if it is please block the link.


some of what BF said in that link

"If you have a VERIFIED paypal, and I am shipping your something (i.e. tracking number) I will accept that and just have u-bob or someone do a transfer between PP and EPASS.

If you have any questions, feel free to contact me.

ICQ: 298063587 "

that shows he is aware of and has done some epass/paypal transfer work..........

it's not conclusive but it shows he does transfer between epass and paypal using other people....

Scootermuze 02-21-2010 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 16881132)
there was more than enough evidence to go public with it.
to make a comparison - if this was in the real world - an arrest would have been made - and that would have gone public. where we are now.
now is what I see as the trial. ................

Holy Jesus!
What a whiney little weasel..
You'd think someone just tried to shoot the president..
Did ya cry as a kid when someone got the bigger half of the candy bar?

Self-appointed fake nic police.. gotta love it..

beerptrol 02-21-2010 05:42 PM

did u even bother to have someone icq Black widow at that icq to see what happens. so by your logic I can go into a thread and say icq me at 105 713 197 or some one with a fake nic could who has it in for you. So they must be your fake nic since they used your icq


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