my mistake - it was Sugar Ray Leonard

what i refer to as an unscheduled match' match is an underground fight - not sanctioned or recorded. if you think those don't exist you're the moron.

Uh huh. Because boxers just love to fight without promoters, ringside physicians, paid attendees or medical insurance for their brittle hands in bouts that don't lead to any kind of title shot. They do it all the time. Especially right before title fights, with the biggest purse of their lives dangling in front of them. Especially Donny LaLonde, the vegetarian boxer who was living in Greenwich Village at the time.

Who was your bouncer? Let's look up his record.

yeah. This thread kind of died.

Looks like a breed of Jiu Jitsu

Jason Graham. he never went pro

boxers fight all the time. they don't just hit punching bags till they get a title match.

Have you ever BEEN in a boxers gym?

what particular part of the body they are hitting up to loose consciousness?

oh by the way.. do you know what the title of the background song? and who sung it. thanks

i like that music too... very cool. no idea who it is

You said your bouncer beat Donny a few months earlier than Donny's fight against Sugar Ray. Donny Lalonde was already WBC light heavyweight champion at that time. If you think we believe the WBC light heavyweight champion was going around fighting in unsanctioned fights with amateur boxers, you're crazy.

Maybe your buddy sparred with him once, which is a more likely story.

The video reminds of the matial arts master that would knock down 12 of his students with one punch and do incredible knocks without even touching his student. But when a MMA fighter came into the dojo to challenge him, he doesnt put up much of a fight and gets beat. Cant seem to find that video on youtube.

We're also supposed to believe that an amateur boxer good enough to KO the world's supermiddleweight and light heavyweight champ would rather bounce in some bar than go pro, when obviously he could have been earning hundreds of thousands of dollars in the ring. We're also supposed to believe that hippie vegetarian Donny Lalonde was participating in underground death matches, right before the biggest fight of his life with a living legend. We're also supposed to believe that light heavyweight champ Donny Lalonde left New York to go participate in an 'underground' boxing match in Winnipeg, Canada. There is also no mention of this freakishly and amazingly great amateur fighter with a 10 yr long career anywhere on the web.

I'm a BJJ blue belt, I've spent hundreds of hours in fight gyms. I live in Vegas, I've been to dozens of fights. My father was a boxer in the Marine Corps. I've been a boxing fan all my life. This is how I know you're completely full of shit. Either you're lying, or somebody lied to you and you believed it. Period.

usually it's people who think they know it all like you that are full of shit. :2 cents:

if you don't think unsanctioned fights happen the only word I can use to describe you is moron.

it wasn't just a sparring match - it was an underground fight that had a lot of betting on it.

I don't really follow the boxing world so if you want to poke holes in what i'm telling you go ahead, you'll probably be able to. I know many people who saw this fight and the people involved are not the kind to brag. believe what ever you want

actually you need to know Jason Graham to understand him. His nickname is Preacher. After breaking up a fight he'd drag them back to his office and preach Jesus crap at the combatants. He didn't like hurting people. Very religious. I have no idea why he liked the nightclub scene but he was a total family man and never cheated on his wife. I asked him many times why he didn't go pro, he told me he didn't like the idea of getting paid to hurt people as a spectator sport. Didn't make sense to me as he did it as a bouncer, but as a bounder he felt he was protecting people. I was able to hire him as I had him on a deal where he was slowly buying shares into the business. He also said the boxing came from him being bounced around foster homes as a kid and being abused. He came to the realization one day to just stop that way of things and he said it was getting harder and harder for find anyone willing to fight him as he was undefeated.


not everything is on the web dude. you'd be a moron to think that.

see if I thought everything on the web was real and a reason to discredit someone then I'd have to call total bullshit on you.

you say you live in Vegas, but your profile says location is L.A.

how can that be?????????? you MUST be lying....

there's no mention on the web of you being able to magically be able to be in two places at one time!

You really are not very bright and prove it more and more on a daily basis.

cat fight!
that video was kinda gay
they barely touch each other and they are diving all over the place
looks like the italian soccer team to me

fuck off pathfinder

Not only an idiot...but an ignorant idiot to boot. I will leave it up to Dig420 to explain how stupid your post is...he will be happy to do it.

you leave everything up to someone else. You need help to tie your shoes. You're the definition of moron.

my dad can beat up your dad.

ummm.... no. Amateurs don't have to 'find' anyone to fight them. They fight in tournaments, such as the Golden Gloves, Pan Ams, the Olympics. All they have to do is enter. And he would be on the web.

When you're in a fucking hole, stop digging.

edit: At this point it's kind of like torturing a kitten, but what the fuck, this is GFY. So Sleazy... your boy won't fight professionally, with physicians at ringside and ambulances waiting outside the door as is mandated by every state boxing commission, for ethical reasons, he doesn't want to get paid or some shit. Yet he's willing to fight in underground matches with no medical staff nearby for money he makes off of bets. Assuming anyone actually gives him any money off of thier bets. Or assuming this gentle savage of yours is betting big bucks on himself. AND this wunderkind went TEN YEARS undefeated in the amateurs!!! Is his name Mark Breland? Maybe Kostya Tszyu? Bernard 'Superbad' Mayes? Maybe he was living under an alias when he worked for you, to protect his secret identity? Because in boxing circles, amateurs who are that badass are damn near as well known as professional fighters, and the ONLY reason I've ever heard of them not turning pro is because of injury.

I mean... who exactly do you think is believing this crap?

tell you what - jump a plane and come to Winnipeg and YOU tell Preacher that. THAT I would LOVE to see.

keyboard warriors...uggggg
go wack off and tell yourself you're soo smart and tough again.


you're one of these - I'm soo tough and you can't know what I know morons. Grow up. I have nothing to gain by this. Honestly I don't care. All I know is you're pretty much a total moron and I'm laughing at how grade 9 you are.

I doubt it. My dad was a vicious motherfucker, I hated that prick lol

... Who exactly do you think is believing this crap?

I can't say I know you personally, we've probably met once or twice or three times, and I've heard a lot about you. Not all good either, but I never heard you were stupid. Thinking this shit will fly at this point is just stupid.

I'd just let it go if I were you, people will forget about it eventually ;)

Maybe 'Preacher' could just sprinkle some angeldust, sprout wings and flap his way to Vegas? He seems to be able to do just about everything else, and your claims about him make about as much sense.

I'll paint a big red X on my roof so he knows where to land.

not you dig420. you're a keyboard warrior. No one can challange you.

I'll bet you can bench press a car over your head and twirl it just for kicks


you're a complete and utter moron dude. and i'm laughing at. grow up.

i really don't care if your ninja or boxer or ju jet poo friends are invincible.

I'm an internet martial art expert...

fucking crazy

Krav Maga
 

What do yout think about Krav maga? i was thnking to start practice soon. From what I am looking, it seems as optimal skill if you are into fight and won't be so brutal when you need to defeat stronger or similar guy.

oh my god.... this thread went from russian martial arts to sleazy's imaginary friend called Preacher. I think i'll call it a day now.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_G...ing_trainer%29
coincidentally this former UK boxer has the same nickname AND the same last name as your secret superhero boxing bouncer.

:1orglaugh

Looks like a bunch of stuntmen and actors.

Did you get beyond the sixth grade in school?

You would be best suited to take your own advice. The drivel you spew as a comeback seems more like something someone would say to you.

You are EXACTLY the person you described in the statement above.

Based on Sleazy's detective theories, as seen in the Barefooties episiode, you've solved this mystery.

Sleazy is a liar now too.

Ok, doing that stuff in a training video works, but how about some practical examples? I knew a guy who was studied martial arts for years, won tournaments, etc -- he was generally thought of as a badass. I finally saw him get in a fight(he tried to avoid it), and it did not go too well. He missed a roundhouse attempt, fell down twice and twisted his ankle. He won the fight, but it wasn't pretty.

It doesn't work. When you see people reaching out superfast and kind of slappy quick positioning someone's body to take a fall, you know right away it's bullshido aka fake. In real life, a resisting opponent - especially an aggressive, violent man, which is generally the type who's going to start a fight with a stranger - isn't that easy to turn. The first thing he's going to do as soon as you reach out for him is take a step back and start throwing bombs on your ass. That's why you don't see this kung fooey stuff in MMA.

BJJ fighters, when they want to take you down, dive bomb your legs like a wrestler, wrap them with both arms and twist and pull you to the ground. Or they bear hug you then trip you. If you want to control a man or bring him to the ground, you have to grab his ass hardcore and absolutely commit to it, not slap him on the shoulder thinking that's going to make him do a 180 so you can punch that pressure point on the back of his neck lol

It's always amazing to me that even after the early UFC, basically a come one come all bare knuckles match, people still want to believe in this ninja stuff.