All I know is this. I have asked specific questions and not received an answer. When you first showed up I even talked to you guys on the phone... and as soon as I started asking the same questions I was brushed off and told that you would get back to me... here I am again being brushed off.

I may not be part of the lawsuit, but I am part of the criminal case. If this is going to be one of those sign up and process with us at a low rate blah blah blah and maybe we can make it look like we are paying you back things then forget it. There are processors currently that have not fucked me over and don't owe me thousands of dollars who already have extremely low rates so there would be no benefit from from an offer like that. Now, you pay me outright and we will talk.

Honestly, even if you payed me in full, your still never going to be my primary processor, as I can not take another loss like the first 2 I was handed by Ibill.

And what about the affiliates that got fucked over. Do you really think any of them are coming back to a site thats processing under the Ibill name?

Why do I even bother with these threads. I know i my heart that this is a scam. A lie like all the others that have come from the mouth of Ibill and the people that worked for Ibill for so long. Your back link theory? Rubish, have you googled Ibill? Not a lot of pretty crap comes up about in the total links of 163,000. Wohoo, you have the top listing on a running list of turd.

Hell if you want to go by that logic then I'm sitting fucking pretty cause googling extremehole gives 56,200 links without the negativity and links to outright theft. As a surfer if I googled Ibill and saw all the crap that's gone down I highly doubt I would be willing to take my credit card out and join...

You make a great point. having the name IBILL anywhere on your sites will only hurt you by way of association. Surfers who Google Ibill will more than likely turn around and join another site after reading all the reports on IBILL. Its getting harder to make sales why restrict yourself in this way?

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you are a TOOL!!:321GFY

IBILL CAN KISS MY ASS! Pay me my money!

Here are the details from iBill:

http://www.xbiz.com/news/118144

Thanks to its CEO for providing this information to us as soon as possible in order to answer some of the webmaster community’s concerns.

"Brown told XBIZ that relief for the outstanding debts will come in the form of discounts on payment processing until creditors have recouped the outstanding amount owed by iBill Fla., (2002-2007)."

congrats to the losers.

Like anyone is going to entrust iBill with their funds (again!) to get a discount!
WG

"iBill Colo. does not assume the debt of iBill Fla. (2002-2007)"

explain?????????????????????

debt conversion plan?

maybe call it what it is?

Flagrantly Delayed Reparations and Coercion Propaganda Plan

no need to sugar it up.

:1orglaugh

50 great deals! congrats to ibill and xbiz!

Yah, no thanks! i would suggest anyone reading this stay far away from these people. They're livin on a prayer.


Found this funny. Didn't that one guy coming here say he used to work there?

"According to the new iBill, though no association exists between the two companies, with none of the same employees"

Or am I wrong?

Can someone get Rodrigo in here please?

Sounds like another round of smokin' mirrors.

:321GFY ibill

:2 cents::2 cents:

Do you people seriously believe this. The company went defunct about 5 years ago. The piggy bank was raided, there was no money left 5 years ago, why would any one think that there is money avaible now, and if there was money there, that they would actually pay it out. Besides this person bought the .net and had nothing to do with the original ibill owners when the company went under, correct ? Or he is a gfy troll pretending to be ibill, i never wasted my time to look into it.

http://estatenumberfour.files.wordpr...4/pigs_fly.jpg

someone get 4chan on this case. it will be cracked by 2pm.

they'll tell you who worked there, when they got to work, what they ate for breakfast, and how many times a day they take a poopoo, all in about 13 minutes. :1orglaugh

So wait, this whole iBill 2.0 thing is NOT a joke?

Seriously, until I read this post I thought it was a gag like Achmed or Anal Hobbit.

Is this a typo? Should this be April 1st?

sig spot?

Exactly as predicted ? Same as the old IBILL offers You have to give them your money before they give you your money back, after taking out 4.5%

The XBiZ story is full of BS Quote from XBIZ site

"According to the new iBill, though no association exists between the two companies, with none of the same employees, or owners, as iBill 2002-2007"


Yet we see this below ?

Executive Team

Irja Zarembok
President and Chief Executive Officer
Irja Zarembok is President of iBill with overall responsibility for growing the business and establishing iBill as the leading global online payment service. Irja previously served as iBill's senior vice president and chief technology officer where she oversaw information technology, product development, and architecture for iBill.
Prior to iBill, Irja worked for Inovant, a subsidiary of Visa formed to oversee global technology for the organization. As executive vice president of technology solutions at Inovant, she was responsible for all development, support and maintenance of Visa's global payment system.

Irja was also an information officer of Barclays Global Investors, where she implemented a new strategic technology platform and global infrastructure.


Jonas C. Brown
Executive Vice President, Security
Jonas Brown has been with iBill since the company's inception. Jonas has held different titles here at iBill from the time he started and now is responsible for Risk, Credit, Fraud and Underwriting. ( responsible for FRAUD? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh)

Prior to joining iBill, Jonas worked for PayMyBills.com as the Director of Risk Management in charge of over 1.2 million in ACH payments per month.

Jonas has studied at RCC Riverside, UCR Riverside, CCSN and UNLV Las Vegas.

Comparing yourself to products that killed people. That is the only accurate statement you made. Old ibill killed a lot of people, financially.

However you want to rationalize it. "Ibill" is tainted. Who ever thought the things you posted here should be fired. They were wrong. Ibill will never make it as a processing company. You don't need to take my word for it, lets check back in 5 years and see how well you are doing. There are millions reasons that the company you work for should have come up with another name to use for processing. Unbelievable. Someone fucked up major, congrats.

See post above Jonnass worked with IBILL from its inception

= marketing stunt.

Trying to use the lost millions of many to get some publicity and crush the hopes of a few people here who actually thought they might get some money. Not going to happen.

Still not going to get any money back, lol.

Never a doubt in my mind :1orglaugh
Every time these guys post one of their schemes they dig further and further into the shit. Gotta make a note of their marketing guy name, he's doing one hell of a job sinking this business

So the big plan is to offer you 4.5% fees (which you can currently get from processors that have not fucked you over.) that then bumps up to 14.5% after the "Dept" has been paid which of course is about 1.5% higher than Ccbills fees...


Can every join together now and say THANKS FOR NOTHING.

double post

I feel desperation in the air. Without Adult webmasters they are done

Gerco,

This is not true. The rate you will be processing at will be an agreement between you and us and once payback is complete, we will want to keep you as a customer, so we would offer your a nice rate to try and keep you. As stated in the release, you are not required to stay for any period of time.

Why did you state this in the XBIZ post


" with none of the same employees, or owners, as iBill 2002-2007"

Saying that you're going to pay people back ... and then saying that you'll only offer them a discount ... is deceptive marketing.

The FTC does not take kindly to that.

iBill ... don't be surprised if people sue you based on your original very public promise to PAY PEOPLE BACK and not just offer future discounts on processing.

Jimmy,

Xbiz asked us for a follow up and we got one out the same day. There will be no where that says you have to stay with us for any length of time.

This is NOT what you said on Xbiz

"Brown told XBIZ that relief for the outstanding debts will come in the form of discounts on payment processing until creditors have recouped the outstanding amount owed by iBill Fla., (2002-2007). With the standard rate for payment processing set at 14.5 percent of all transactions, creditors will be able to negotiate a lower rate, with rates as low as 4.5 percent, that will run until the debt is settled. The difference between the traditional rate and the debt conversion rate will represent the amount that will be applied to the debt.

For example, if a person or business entity processes $10,000 in transactions each month, and their normal fees would be $1450, and that person or entity is paying a promotional rate of five percent, the remaining $950 will be applied to the outstanding debt."

WTF ?
Why not answer the question i asked you ?
Why did you make this statement to XBIZ ?

"with none of the same employees, or owners, as iBill 2002-2007"

a "nice" rate to keep you. Thats how I do deals. nice and vague. :thumbsup :upsidedow


If I wanted to use someone other than ccbill, I would use zombaio and their 4.9% rate for life. Check out Zombaio

Gerco,

There is nothing in the statement that says they MUST stay for any period of time.

I call bullshit on this! Even if this offer was legit and they had the money to pay everyone back it is the dumbest PR move they could ever make. The few people they pay will most likely not ever do biz with IBILL in the future and the rest (the majority including people like me) will never see a cent because we won't be able to prove it and will curse them 10x more than we did before. :2 cents:

If that quote from XBiZ is accurate the rate seems to bounce from 4.5 to 5% in just one paragraph. Smoke a mirrors people smoke and mirrors :error

Will76, We don't require to be 1st on your cascade like Zombaio to get that rate

You should read the whole thread, you are never going to get a cent unless you join IBILLs program and send them members

The rate is not going to be the same for everyone. Everyone's case is different.