I can't quite put my finger on it, but this threads feels....

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From Ripoff Reports interesting read ?
 

Report: #459033
Report: B2B CREDIT - IBILL

Reported By: (Silver Spring Maryland)
B2B CREDIT - IBILL - JONAS BROWN, CEO Of B2B CREDIT & IBILL PROMISES TO BUILD BUSINESS - WILL TAKE YOUR MONEY AND YOU GET NOTHING! Aurora Colorado
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B2B CREDIT - IBILL
10640 E Bethany Dr Ste A
Aurora Colorado 80014-2600
U.S.A.
Phone: 303-369-8100
Web Address:

Category: Business Consultants

Submitted: Friday, June 05, 2009
Posted: Friday, June 05, 2009
The CEO for IBILL, Inc. ALSO owns B2B Credit Inc., - He failed to perform the service (building business credit) for which they advertised and I paid for (from Oct 2007 to present). In Oct 2007 I paid $399 upfront fee (plus $125 p/mo, thereafter) for B2B Credit Inc to build my business credit. The first few months went fairly well, with their rep but, she left in early 2008. There was no rep working to provide the credit building service from Mar 08-July 08 & eventually I complained to the Ops Mgr, (whom I would later find out was the owner's wife). In Dec 08, she conceded to their lack of performance & issued a 4 month credit (through May 09).

From Jan 09-present, there has been no credit building activity on my account. I requested cancellation & a refund in late Feb, early Mar & was told, by Wife/Ops Mgr, that they would issue the refund. She then passed the buck on to Husband/CEO. I spoke with CEO, last month, on the phone & via emails. His last communiction was that he didn't have my credit card info to make the refund (they sure had it to charge the fees). I provided the card info, via email & have made several follow up calls, with no response...UNTIL last week, when I received a SOLICITATION to PAY for a conference call with CEO, where he would tell business owners how to build credit. Unbelievable!

This man promises to build your business credit to $150,000 in 9-12 months. It has been almost 18 months & all his company has managed to do is build debt for my company. There is NOTHING reporting to D&B for my business, as promised & I deserve a refund. I have 2 years worth of emails that detail these events & would be happy to fax anything you think is pertinent. I am now inclined to believe that he is a scam artist.

I have filed with Better Busines Bureau and am planning a civil suit - WATCH OUT FOR THEM!

Ready2sue
Silver Spring, Maryland
U.S.A.

http://www.ripoffreport.com/business...s-br-y4w8e.htm

B2B Credit seems to be offline, but this is a post about them
 

12. Re: B2B Credit Oct 28, 2008 6:36 PM
I can tell you the truth about B2B credit... I used them for approximately four months or so. I used their services under the premonition that they would be able to help me get credit without using me as a personal grantor. As you are a business that is starting up.... that is far from the truth. They had me first getting tradelines with companies that helped me in no way. Some of the people did not even report my net 30 accounts to DNB. I checked my credit via Experian business and DNB and out of the 4 tradelines that B2B set me up with... only 1 was actually reporting. So I was in more debt losing another 125 a month and no one reporting. They applied at different places saying I would not need to use my personal scores, but each time they applied with someone they asked for a personal signee. Staples, OfficeMax, Gas cards, etc. When it came down to real companies extending credit.. it was not how the salesman described it to me. I had questions that I needed answered and sometimes they did not answer them back. They switched reps on me. It was a little bit much.

All this info is out there if you look for it. Still want to do business with them ?
 

Name: B2B Credit Inc.
Phone: (303) 369-8100
Address: 10640 E Bethany Dr Ste A
Aurora, CO 80014-2600
Website: www.b2bcredit.com
Original Business Start Date: May 2006
Principal: Mr. Jonas Brown, Owner
Customer Contact: Mr. Jonas Brown, Owner
Type of Business: Credit Services
BBB Accreditation: This company is not a BBB Accredited business.



BBB processed a total of 21 complaints about this company in the last 36 months, our standard reporting period. Of the total of 21 complaints closed in 36 months, 2 were closed in the last year.

These complaints concerned :
1 regarding Billing or Collection Issues
7 regarding Contract Issues
5 regarding Customer Service Issues
3 regarding Refund or Exchange Issues
2 regarding Sales Practice Issues
3 regarding Service Issues

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Anybody that knows how to use edit some smarty code and some php code, hit me up, I have a couple of small edits to be done on a non-adult site.

I'm not buying any of this talk until Rodrigo says it's so.

The Jack in the Box analogy should be instead:

Jack in the Box opens up in 2002. Then, in 2007 (or whenever the old iBill stopped paying), everyone who still happened to be eating Jack in the Box got extremely sick and/or died of e-coli poisoning.

There, how's that? Would anyone eat at a relaunched Jack in the Box if that were the case?

Or Firestone - how about if at the point blowouts started to happen, it wasn't just a random smattering of their tires but ALL of their tires that blew out, causing hundreds of thousands if not millions of accidents, deaths, etc.?

Enron, Titanic, etc. are good analogies too. :)

Oh yea, and new iBill, your "plan" is not paying anyone back. If someone has to actually make you money in order to get paid back, that's incentive. That's no different than a program giving increased payout for a period of time and is fucking ridiculous to be labeled as paying them back if you ask me. You're probably trying to hook people in again to fuck them. The sad thing is I feel like this is stating the OBVIOUS but you'll probably still end up hooking people in and fucking them.

So it looks like, a I thought, regular webmasters will not get paid back. There are a lot of webmasters who lost money because they had revshare accounts with sponsors that used ibill and when they crashed and burned that money and those rebills went with it. I'm not owed nearly what a lot of people are, but I can tell you this, I will not promote revshare on any program that uses the new ibill.

No one will get paid, affiliates or programs because only a fool will sign up for Ibills doomed IBILL2

At 9 am this morning Pacific time this Joanass guy joined another board with a similar membership :winkwink:
Within 3 posts and 20 minutes he was run off the board and has not posted since, because he is unable to answer the question thrown at him. Way to go moron :thumbsup

"Hi, My name is Adolph Hitler and I am running for the Presidency of Germany. Yes, I know I look, sound, and say many of the same things that that OTHER Adolph Hitler last century did, but I can ASSURE you, I am NOT the same person!"

Walks like a duck, talks like a duck..it's IBILL!

What is this thing? These pillow faces sure look funny to me.

I wouldn't touch the "new Ibill" with a 10 foot pole. I am owed 10's of thousands, but I'd rather lose it all than see that piece of shit company resurrected. And as for new clients, let me point out the CCBill has never missed a single payment in over 11 years of business. If you want a 3rd party processor, why would you look anywhere else?

Fuck Ibill, new and old. :2 cents:

how do you even have the nerve to show your face here?

Never too late to change your name.

No match for "FAILBILL.COM".
>>> Last update of whois database: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 11:17:06 UTC <<<

iBill,
You should become VIP Billing (VipBilling.com), for only $708
http://www.gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/956551-vip-billing.html

I dont think they totally understand what they did to some people. I personally know some people who made thier sole living off thier website, myself included but I came out ok, I was using these guys for my processing but when this all went bad I switched to ccbill, no it was in no way easy for us either but we managed, many people I know didnt, and a few of them ended up losing thier homes because of this. You morons ruined families, peoples lives, thier credit.....you destroyed them. I cannot see anyway ibill could possibly be trusted.

rodrigo can we get a comment please?

this is fucking insane

marketing stunt = failed. Pretty soon they will give up on trying to do credit card processing and go back to trying to help people fix their credit or whatever other shit these guys do. They are so small potatoes it's not even funny. Someone bought the ibill.net domain, got a little investment money together and thought what a great idea it would be to start a 3rd party billing company.

didn't work. good luck on your future endeavors.

Amen to this.

I'm glad to see iBill2 gave XBiz some advertising $ though. I like XBiz and someone ought to profit from this and it is not iBill.

Will76, you really need to do a GFY educational series on fail. Here's your perfect example!

this is friggin hilarious... comparing a billing processor ripping people off to some tainted meat and pills. Difference is I doubt those companies knew that was going on and didn't try to stop it, like ibill did.

but hey good luck with that.

I was thinking of an analogy like that yesterday but decided not to post...

Mine was why don't they try to open Hitler Jewelry Exchange in the middle of Israel. Would probably have better luck than trying to sell the iBill brand to the adult industry.

Hitler just needs new management and better PR.

http://www.allamericanblogger.com/wp...tler-youth.jpg

Turn that fraun upside down! :upsidedow

lol this is funny to get your money back just give us a little more of your money and we'll give you it back we swear LOL

Seems they really pissed someone off ?

FYI iBill, State Attorney McCollum has already been notified of your past and intentions to conduct business in the state of Florida and a petition will be distributed to audit your company in an open hearing to the public at which time we will then petition the state to revoke your license to conduct business here in Florida.

i thought the new company is in colorado?

What an insult.

I think it would be a great idea if you guys skinned the board again. Bad press is good press right???

Wow, just wow. The stupidity on this board never ceases to amaze me but this takes it to a whole new level. Anyone dumb enough to fall for this line of shit.. well... fuck 'em.

Holy fuck... you can't be serious. I think that would be the first time GFY tears itself apart. and I thought the tube skin was brutal.... jeebus.

The kinder, gentler Ibill. lol!

It's Hitler.NET see. Hitler.com is only worth $2,500.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

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:thumbsup

I say it's all a shame and these new iBill guys must have big balls or just be stupid to cross some betrayed peoples way (here or else where), making offers you can give a fuck on.
iBill as Brand is ruined. PERIOD!
The only thing, which comes to everybodys mind is that the old iBill is still the new one.
A friend of mine owns me a lots of money he couldn't pay back, since he was nearly ruined with iBill as a processor. But more shocking was that he also lost his house and his wife which left him with their little daughter.
Not my lost money, but the fate of the damaged lives hurts so much!!!

Even if you would pay him or me 25k, that wouldn't repair iBills reputation!

iBill are scum. search this board to understand why

Epic Thread of the year!