lol @ americans loling at canadian health care, :1orglaugh

native girls drone on about this for hours

you're referring to these little red indian status cards?

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they are not 100% tax exempt, they still pay the other 7% tax, pst/gst whatever its called. and from what i have seen a lot of white people have the indian cards i seen them using them at gas stations all the time. hell my ex wifes redneck mother in law has an indian status card. and they are porcelain white with blue eyes etc. go get yourself one like everyone else up there or pay the tax and deal with it. or marry an indian girl and use their status rights

All they pay is GST/PST, who fucking cares about that? I'm talking about not paying Federal and provincial income tax. I don't even really care that they get tax breaks on smokes / booze / gas, which is still pretty fucking stupid.

In order to get any status recognition you need to have 2 parents or grandparents who are registered status indians. Otherwise you need to be able to prove your native ancestry.

Passing as a Metis person, DOES NOT EXEMPT YOU FROM TAXES. So I don't know what blue-eyes blonde indians you were talking to, but they were full of shit.

We also offer immigrants a beautiful tax exmeption period upon moving to Canada. What the fuck is that all about? I'm a citizen of the god damned country and I never got a taxfree year in my life. Why the fuck are they given a free pass to move here? If you want to live here, come and pay taxes like the rest of the country's born citizens.


Another shitstorm that irritates the living fuck out of me. Foreigners can come here, get a work visa, work for their minimum number of hours, get a layoff, and collect Canadian unemployment insurance that they have never paid into up until this point? GTFO, you're not a citizen, how the fuck are you collecting UI paid for by citizens?

1. Can anyone describe me how it works if you lose a job? Wellfare or anything? Do they offer you any job substitute? For how long do they pay your jobless?

2. How expensive is hiring a nunny for 2 kids say 4 hours a day afternoon time?

3. I read your gas price, not scared its same here.

4. Weapon, is that also easy to buy like in the US?

5. Leasing a new car, is that too expensive comparing to say buying a used one in a good condition?

6. Cable internetm how expensive is say 5Mbit pipe a month?

7. Daycare and public schools, is that payable? How much, well, consider something
average.

8. I liked Halifax views and house pricng. I can tell you it's even less expensive then where I live. What the fuck with Atlantic Canada, why so cheap?

9. Mobile phones, okay, I just need a family plan I guess, so mostly internal calls, if you get that free in Canada.

10. Why do you have your bathroom equipment so standartized all over North America, and most important, who invented that shitter that stays filled up in half with water when you do your dumping?

Dam I'll be out with beer one day !!

i'll answer a few. weapons are a bit of a pain in the ass with the governments retarded and extremely expensive waste of money gun registry.

yes, there is welfare (i hope your not planning on using it lol), as well as UI for short term job loss.

Cell phone coverage is a major rip off here, you get raped. i switched over to virgin mobile after getting burned for years with Rogers.

There's no work there. They have to ship all the Newfies and Novies to Alberta to make money...

Canada vs. Ukraine - is this even a question?


Just DO it!

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I know you like big engines, amigo :)
On a serious note while its progressing i have several month of getting to know it... virtually :)

Naw, don't need to. They aren't keeping up with their bills and the new landlords will get them under control soon enough.

Even top Canadian politicians don't trust their lives to Canadian health care system! Soon enough this will not happen because OUR will sucks as bad as YOURS!

the healthcare system is a joke - talk to doctors if you have some as personal friends or family members, especially in Southern Ontario where a third or more of Canadians live, cancer care is horrendous, and as the Baby Boomers keep on aging it's gonna be fucking scary. it's second class healthcare imho. My aunt just spent three days in an ER waiting for a bed, an 80 year old woman who worked her entire life paying her way in taxes and that's the reward of the glorious Canadian system that at 80 you get the same treatment as a third world peasant does in his country. it's rationed healthcare and most Canadians don't realize it because for basic and some type of healthcare needs the system works very well for broken bones, trauma cases, obstetrics, the cold/flu, yearly checkups etc
it's when you or a family member run up against something big where you'll see the huge cracks in the system. Rich Canadians will almost always head to an American clinic when their life is in danger, at least to get an opinion on what treatments are available both in the US and Canada. When you are told that there's a 4 month wait for your cancer treatment and that it won't make a difference in your outcome - get online and do your research.

taxes are brutal but American taxes are catching up, a state like New York is almost or equally as bad as Canada for taxes - paying over 40% in income tax makes me physically ill. add on the stupid GST and provincial taxes on everything and it really is a socialist system. it's very hard for an American company to come to Canada, many decide after giving it a try it's not worth the investment. Everything for some reason just costs more. It's like a secret consipiracy where everybody just decides to charge more for things. You'll see an item in the US and it's significantly more expensive in Canada, no reason for it, thanks to NAFTA there's no duty on most American imported products.

Southwestern Ontario is pretty mild, nice and sunny too.

Do you live in Canada? I have never paid 40% income taxes...As for health care, what hospital was this? My dad has had a few trips to the ER in the past few months and there was never an issue getting a bed. Those without extreme emergencies have to wait way too long to get seen in the ER but thats all I've experienced.

Try making more money. Once you get in a higher bracket you may as well give it away to avoid taxes. Tax time is a fucking nightmare...People really lose sleep over their deductions and tax strategies. It's almost a full time job to run your affairs so as to avoid over taxation.

And then there are all the consumption taxes. A can of refried beans that costs 79 cents in the USA is fucking $4.39. By the time you add in all of the taxes you pay the total rate against your income is close to 50%.

And don't get me started on the medical system. If you have a chronic problem or anything slightly out of the ordinary you are fucked. In 2008 I had to go to another country to get treatment...And guess what I am still fighting to deduct the amounts I paid for medical care from my taxes.

I bet there is a lot more to the story about your medical problem. As I recall you went to some Asian country to get it done...why not just go to the states? Anyways, if its so shitty, don't live here. I always find ways to get my income down to a decent level despite how much I gross. Health care may leave something to be desired but its better than paying 300/month in insurance despite not using it for years.

What, you think high income earners in the US aren't paying taxes in the 40 percentile range? Think again.

I was just at the grocers today. Beans are on sale for $1.29 a can. I have no idea what store your're shopping at where they're soaking you five bucks a can but if I were you I'd try another one.

Not true in the slightest.

I worked in the medical field for nearly 15 years and can think of very few instances where anyone "had" to go to another country for treatment. Very few as in almost none. I've known many people who have been diagnosed with and beaten cancer who stayed right here for treatment. My sister in law for one. I've had 5 surgeries in my life, all of them here. No complaints whatsoever.

Seriously, if you find it so miserable in Canada, move. Maybe that country you "had" to go to for treatment would take you in?

HAHA!!! That is fuckn classic!! :1orglaugh

what he said. has worked out fine for me so far

"i used to have to remove my battery every night as it would freeze and be useless too if I didn't bring it indoors and sit it near a heater."

So, you got caught stealing your neighbors battery and that's the defense you used? I can only assume.

Most of the rest though is designed to keep the black man out (cold weather, customs stripping down your car etc. etc.)

We've been trying with large food incentives to get the white fatties exported to the US to keep more blacks out, but so far that's failed. That's one of the biggest issues this session of Parliament. Get rid of fattie and the black man will surely follow.

Uhmm do you even realise that they are not Canadian...lol they have their own Nation. Go try and get BCHydro or a phone line or a cable line on a reservation see what it costs... I use to work in the telco industry and a common quote was 20k to 30k to install a line on a reservation. Thats why you see satelite dishes. They have their own government. They are also considered North American citizens and have the right to live in either the US or Canada.

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canadia has this


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all of the above is true bman. though i have to admit the natives have it better on the canada side of the border in terms of monies and services. i've lived and worked on reservations in both countries. unfortunately most reservations look really 3rd world. you will often see shiny brand new cars/trucks parked in front of a shack with no windows or doors. they have government money coming in and get all sorts of kickbacks yet they still struggle to get by. so they do scenes in between checks haha... but think about it, if u got a taxfree indian status card, a monthly percapita check just for being indian, casino earnings kickbacks, and huge government reparations settlements every few years (the latest big case check in canada was the settlement over how schoolteachers treated indians badly 30yrs ago... 100% of canadian status indians alive got paid big if they're still living today) man i'd be indefinitely set for life and want probably wait for the mailman to bring my check too. you're so right about prices being inflated on the reserves too. everything costs BIG money because so few vendors do business there.

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Otherwise its the greatest place on earth

LOL.


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Plus 18C here today.. the willow trees all have leaves and the cherry, apple, and pink flower trees have all bloomed.


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Way back int he day I used to work as a swamper on a hydrovac truck. Our truck's territory was mostly situated in and around a northern alberta indian reservation. You could tell where the reservation boundaries started, because that's where the refrigerators and washing machines in the ditch start, and they continue down any road you follow until you leave the rez. Oh, and watch the fuck out for stray dogs and children, they are everywhere. They run out on the road like deer from the strangest places.

They don't drill water wells out there, they have giant freshwater tanks. Why? Because it is cheaper to truck them water for the lifespan of the house than it is to drill a well! The entire reservation looks like a post apocalyptic wasteland. Beautiful new houses, gutted, destroyed and left to weather.

I almost thought my driver was joking when he told me, then a while afterward I was rigging up to a tank just behind a yard on the rez mid afternoon. I see a school bus roll up on the road, and 4 little native kids come strolling off. At this point I usually stand around on the edge of the oil lease and smoke cigarettes for an hour or so trying not to fall asleep while the truck pumps, so I have a goof extended period to watch these kids. What do these little shits do?

They go into the backyard which was facing our worksite, so I can see everything they are doing. They start throwing rocks at the wall. Then they're beating it with sticks. Once they get some nice holes broke in the siding, they get their sticks underneath and start prying it up. Then they tag up on it and start ripping the fucking siding off the house. Brand new house getting just thrashed, and this is how 90% of the homes there look. It's fucking sickening.

Go hang out in Onion Lake, Hobema, Sunchild. Fucking ghhhhhhhetto. You better hope you don't run out of gas on the side of the road in the middle of the night. Your vehicle won't make morning without being a smashed heap of shit...

Obviously this isn't every reservation or every native person, but jesus fuck are there some bad ones. It reminds of way back I was sitting in a little northern oil town bar having some drinks and I'm talking with this old indian dude, real funny guy. He tells me this "You know, there's indians, and there's fucking indians, and there's a WHOOOOOOOLE LOT of fucking indians..." I just about shat myself laughing.

I could so go on a rant....


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Actually fucking funniest thing ever I moved to West Coast BC from Saskatoon... I was there 1 year and having my kids robbed daily at knife point and my house broken into when I was in it we had enough...

Less than 1 month Im in BC my car is stolen... Amazingly recovered 3 days later in a neighbouring town... with a driver... Native... and he got off cause he said his friend gave him the car with the key. (valet key left in glove box even though window smashed in to steal the car.)


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Cons: Canada is where all the fuckin cold air comes from.

lol i think a lot of americans think that every other country out there is skimping on something since they seem to always be out of money

in canada we have everything you do in the US, if we want to pay for medical care we can go to the US, or we can stay where we are and get it for free. taxes are pretty much the exact same as the US but people are way nicer, we are amazing at the winter olympics and our hockey is phenomenal

i love canada!!!!

Good point on the health care.

And I am forever grateful for the CDN heath system my dad is like the bionic Man.. a liver transplant.. 2 sholders and a knee replacement ... damn.

My mom has beaten Cancer divorced my Dad.. she deserves a GOLD medal...


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And dont tell me I could get my eye surgery cheaper in the US.

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Obviously you are wrong. All the cold comes down from Rooskie !

Reading it about medicine, I didn't realize that canadians and americans play that pin-pong bad-good game as we do with rooskie here.

At least I guess you can assure me that they have beds in hospitals at all and while in treatment in the hospital patients get all they need as of medications, everyday meal ( that is ok to eat ) and all the other stuff like clean bathrooms and showers.

To compare to the US, i just can tell that a buddy of mine, being in a good shape, told me a story once, he scratched his leg and didnt care to clean the wound properly, so in 2 days he was in problem and spent 2 days in the hospital. USD 2,5k flat that was his bill. Can you relate any canadian experince?

sure. i broke my ankle hiking in the summer of '04. i was traveling back and forth between Vancouver to Montreal every other week for business. well, after the fracture, that triggered a pulmonary embolism, and i almost died. i was in Montreal at the time, and had to spend an entire month in the hospital. then after that, i was in a medical clinic once a week in Whistler for half a year for blood tests, and physio therapy. cost = zero. i can't imagine how much that would have cost in the states.

Do Canadians pay anything extra ( except taxes ) for public schools ( study books, are they free also?)? How much is paying day care?