Originally Posted by selena (Post 16940414)

I wanted to clarify that my comments were not directed at you, Jenni. Outside of seeing you post on gfy, I don't know anything about you, or your company.

But I personally fail to see how *any* comments to the press are beneficial to DirtyD. In this thread, we have Shelly, a resident of that area, telling us that, thus far, the case is pretty much under the radar. What on earth could be gained by someone (you or the attorney, not sure who is giving the press conference) in essence, jumping up and down, waving their arms, screaming at the mainstream media

"Lookee, lookee, lookee!!! My client has been charged with a crime that has the words "child" and "sex" in it!"

WTF?

On GFY, we may sit here and debate whether it matters if she was 17 and not 18, what her culpability is for using a fake id, etc, etc. But mainstream America isn't going to quibble over those points. They are going to hear "porn" and "underage" and that will be the ballgame, ladies and gents. Sure, there will be some that will actually wait until the facts are heard, but they are not in the majority.

And while stuff that has happened in his past may not be relevant and allowed in court, the media...and with all due respect to XBiz, I mean the mainstream media...will have a field day with stuff like getting a blowjob from another guy in a public theater during a porn movie.

No matter what the Court finds, DirtyD will be found guilty by public opinion about two paragraphs into a press conference.

A press conference? For real?

:helpme

Seems like an attorney who wants to make a name for himself to me.

To me, the only comment that should be uttered by anyone involved with the defense, or the defendant should be along the lines of

"We are confident that after the Court/jury hears our case that Mr. Whateverhisnameis will be found innocent on all charges. No further comment."

Then again, I am not a lawyer, nor do I play one on TV.

Originally Posted by kristin (Post 16940723)

I like that the articles use their handle names.

Originally Posted by JenniDahling (Post 16939863)

It is actually the attorney who contacted me yesterday giving me the date and requesting I contact our industry press and they will help organize the mainstream.

Originally Posted by LadyMischief (Post 16940750)

My question in all this is, what about the other companies that supposedly shot this girl? Do they know? Were they informed? Are they going to be expecting police raids? If D is going down for a girl using a fake ID, what about the other people that got suckered with said fake ID? Are industry folks supposed to be experts in spotting false identification? I thought there had been other precidents where this kind of thing was involved?

Just honestly curious.

Originally Posted by JenniDahling (Post 16940687)

I will not be speaking at this press conference, the attorneys will be speaking.

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 16940746)

Why would you have a press statement? The majority of the media doesn't know about this and the vast majority of the public doesn't know. Why have press conference to let everyone know that some pornography who makes money off of exploiting crack whores and from gloryholes has been accused of shooting an underage girl. By the time the media gets finished with what you say at the press release, what will be written will sound something like this " Local smut peddler who made millions off of crack whores and lewd sex acts will be arrested for shooting a minor". That's what the public will hear, not your "press conference" but the media's reprint of what they take from it and what will sell papers. (Which wont make your client look good).

So what is the point of having a press conference ?

Not to mention like it was stated here, what is said could also be used against him.

not smart, I don't see the benefit of doing this, to proclaim your innocence to the public who doesn't know about your problems in the first place ?

Originally Posted by kristin (Post 16940723)

I like that the articles use their handle names.

Originally Posted by Press Release Pro (Post 16940779)

Interesting; You would almost think there is something bigger on the agenda :uhoh :uhoh

Originally Posted by PornMD (Post 16939391)

Sticky supposedly has that person's info and won't post it, because posting an adult's name who's not a member here anymore would get him banned he thinks.

And yea, anyone who would have anybody but their attorney talking for them in a case like this is asking to be reamed in court.

Originally Posted by LadyMischief (Post 16940750)

My question in all this is, what about the other companies that supposedly shot this girl? Do they know? Were they informed? Are they going to be expecting police raids? If D is going down for a girl using a fake ID, what about the other people that got suckered with said fake ID? Are industry folks supposed to be experts in spotting false identification? I thought there had been other precidents where this kind of thing was involved?

Just honestly curious.

Originally Posted by pornlaw (Post 16940768)

My comments were not aimed it you alone. When you have a criminal defendant you proclaim innocence and move on --

"I am confident my client will be cleared of all charges he/she is currently accused of and his/her innocence will be vindicated. Thank you."

Anything beyond that and it gets risky.

Originally Posted by Nikki_Licks (Post 16940354)

Good advice!

My Pop and Uncle always drilled it into my head to never, never say a word to the authorities, no matter how small the offense. To this day I will never speak to authorities no matter what, no even my name.

The only thing that should come out of your mouth is to ask for your phone call, call your attorney and keep your mouth shut :2 cents:

Originally Posted by JenniDahling (Post 16940763)

That indeed is a good question, it's just hard to figure out chronology unless those companies are aware and check their logs as well. It happened in 2008.

Originally Posted by pornlaw (Post 16939882)

Oh no... never talk to the press. Every statement can and will be used against you - even if its not the defendant saying it.

I never give statements on the behalf of my clients even in civil cases. Its not my case to comment on.

In a criminal matter you never say anything. Unless you are a well known high profile criminal defense attorney that has certain reporters in your pocket that you know will get out your story in the exact way you want it out there - basically the guys that will let you write your own statement and will not twist it.

Otherwise it is a huge risk to take.

Good-luck with his defense though.

Originally Posted by Quentin (Post 16940923)

In addition to the words of wisdom Michael has already posted, let me just add this: if any of you are ever in a circumstance in which, after shooting a model and distributing content depicting that model, you have reason to believe that the model in question provided you with a fake ID and/or might have been underage at the time of filming, that is the moment to make first contact with your attorney about the issue.

In that situation, before you do ANYTHING else, call your attorney, tell them anything and everything you know about the situation, and then ask "what should I do?"

Do NOT discuss the matter with anybody else, and do NOT discuss it with any manner of media outlet, in particular.

It's always better to give your attorney a chance to deal with things before they become a publicly known clusterfuck of the "he said/she said" variety, regardless of whether it is a criminal or civil matter, but it is all the more important when there's potential for serious criminal liability. :2 cents:

Originally Posted by Quagmire (Post 16940740)

Originally Posted by kristin (Post 16940723)

I like that the articles use their handle names.

Originally Posted by selena (Post 16940414)

I wanted to clarify that my comments were not directed at you, Jenni. Outside of seeing you post on gfy, I don't know anything about you, or your company.

But I personally fail to see how *any* comments to the press are beneficial to DirtyD. In this thread, we have Shelly, a resident of that area, telling us that, thus far, the case is pretty much under the radar. What on earth could be gained by someone (you or the attorney, not sure who is giving the press conference) in essence, jumping up and down, waving their arms, screaming at the mainstream media

"Lookee, lookee, lookee!!! My client has been charged with a crime that has the words "child" and "sex" in it!"

WTF?

On GFY, we may sit here and debate whether it matters if she was 17 and not 18, what her culpability is for using a fake id, etc, etc. But mainstream America isn't going to quibble over those points. They are going to hear "porn" and "underage" and that will be the ballgame, ladies and gents. Sure, there will be some that will actually wait until the facts are heard, but they are not in the majority.

And while stuff that has happened in his past may not be relevant and allowed in court, the media...and with all due respect to XBiz, I mean the mainstream media...will have a field day with stuff like getting a blowjob from another guy in a public theater during a porn movie.

No matter what the Court finds, DirtyD will be found guilty by public opinion about two paragraphs into a press conference.

A press conference? For real?

:helpme

Seems like an attorney who wants to make a name for himself to me.

To me, the only comment that should be uttered by anyone involved with the defense, or the defendant should be along the lines of

"We are confident that after the Court/jury hears our case that Mr. Whateverhisnameis will be found innocent on all charges. No further comment."

Then again, I am not a lawyer, nor do I play one on TV.

Originally Posted by kristin (Post 16940723)

I like that the articles use their handle names.

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 16940938)

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :thumbsup

Originally Posted by Quentin (Post 16940923)

In addition to the words of wisdom Michael has already posted, let me just add this: if any of you are ever in a circumstance in which, after shooting a model and distributing content depicting that model, you have reason to believe that the model in question provided you with a fake ID and/or might have been underage at the time of filming, that is the moment to make first contact with your attorney about the issue.

In that situation, before you do ANYTHING else, call your attorney, tell them anything and everything you know about the situation, and then ask "what should I do?"

Do NOT discuss the matter with anybody else, and do NOT discuss it with any manner of media outlet, in particular.

It's always better to give your attorney a chance to deal with things before they become a publicly known clusterfuck of the "he said/she said" variety, regardless of whether it is a criminal or civil matter, but it is all the more important when there's potential for serious criminal liability. :2 cents:

Originally Posted by BVF (Post 16942895)

I still don't believe that he's coming back at all.....I mean his shit has already been seized so there's nothing left to come back to.....He can choose to stay out of the country and still pay his affiliates and make money, or come back to Tampa and get crucified and basically convicted of child porn, which means that his sweet white ass will be grass in prison...Plus he will be left with nothing no matter whether he wins or loses the case, at which time, he will be forced to look for a job at Wendy's.

I mean, I have children and all but I'm not sure that I would come back...Hell, he could just hang out in Mexico if he was willing to lay low....Then he could fly his family in...

I would stay put if I was him and that's what I believe will happen.

Originally Posted by Quentin (Post 16940923)

In addition to the words of wisdom Michael has already posted, let me just add this: if any of you are ever in a circumstance in which, after shooting a model and distributing content depicting that model, you have reason to believe that the model in question provided you with a fake ID and/or might have been underage at the time of filming, that is the moment to make first contact with your attorney about the issue.

In that situation, before you do ANYTHING else, call your attorney, tell them anything and everything you know about the situation, and then ask "what should I do?"

Do NOT discuss the matter with anybody else, and do NOT discuss it with any manner of media outlet, in particular.

It's always better to give your attorney a chance to deal with things before they become a publicly known clusterfuck of the "he said/she said" variety, regardless of whether it is a criminal or civil matter, but it is all the more important when there's potential for serious criminal liability. :2 cents:

Originally Posted by k0nr4d (Post 16942933)

Agreed. It sounds like he is just as fucked if he wins as if he losses. Best to stay put, although im sure they have frozen bank accounts and such.

Originally Posted by Quagmire (Post 16940740)