I don't doubt your word, but I would have another attorney about 2 seconds after a press conference was suggested or statements to Xbiz or any other type of publication were authorized.


:2 cents:

Well, you can't blame sticky for being safe.
He did mention if anyone wants the persons info to contact him privately :winkwink:

Good advice!

My Pop and Uncle always drilled it into my head to never, never say a word to the authorities, no matter how small the offense. To this day I will never speak to authorities no matter what, no even my name.

The only thing that should come out of your mouth is to ask for your phone call, call your attorney and keep your mouth shut :2 cents:

I imagine that the documentation of lack of will play a big part. If Dirty D has clear color copies of her ID then it shows that he was following procedure. We don't really know enough to make any judgements at this point though.

This thread is COLD as ICE!!!!

So are what you’re eluding to is that she is kind of like Mary 34D but without the 34D’s, sucking off bus drivers and “doing” the Juicy???

Black is the new white……and someone thinks he’s the new Larry Claxton Flynt, Jr…..who tends to speak in the tones of Robert Joseph "Bob" Dole (meaning he constantly refers to himself in the third person).

But of those two people he is not…..famous to a degree, yes….but even by Ray Guhn or Max Hardcore standards he again is not.

Not trying to bust his bubble……just trying to be realistic.

Good luck anyways….man…..and never quite forget that quite perhaps their main motivation is because that it is an election year.

I hope AJ knows what he's doing... he does have good PR experience in the public light for doing that porn academy thing at tradeshows

I wanted to clarify that my comments were not directed at you, Jenni. Outside of seeing you post on gfy, I don't know anything about you, or your company.

But I personally fail to see how *any* comments to the press are beneficial to DirtyD. In this thread, we have Shelly, a resident of that area, telling us that, thus far, the case is pretty much under the radar. What on earth could be gained by someone (you or the attorney, not sure who is giving the press conference) in essence, jumping up and down, waving their arms, screaming at the mainstream media

"Lookee, lookee, lookee!!! My client has been charged with a crime that has the words "child" and "sex" in it!"

WTF?

On GFY, we may sit here and debate whether it matters if she was 17 and not 18, what her culpability is for using a fake id, etc, etc. But mainstream America isn't going to quibble over those points. They are going to hear "porn" and "underage" and that will be the ballgame, ladies and gents. Sure, there will be some that will actually wait until the facts are heard, but they are not in the majority.

And while stuff that has happened in his past may not be relevant and allowed in court, the media...and with all due respect to XBiz, I mean the mainstream media...will have a field day with stuff like getting a blowjob from another guy in a public theater during a porn movie.

No matter what the Court finds, DirtyD will be found guilty by public opinion about two paragraphs into a press conference.

A press conference? For real?

:helpme

Seems like an attorney who wants to make a name for himself to me.

To me, the only comment that should be uttered by anyone involved with the defense, or the defendant should be along the lines of

"We are confident that after the Court/jury hears our case that Mr. Whateverhisnameis will be found innocent on all charges. No further comment."

Then again, I am not a lawyer, nor do I play one on TV.

If you don't want to take my word for it, listen to PornLaw. :thumbsup



Couldn't have said it better. Ditto to this as well. :thumbsup

I hope this doesn't come off like everyone's trying to jump all over D's camp, there are alot of constructive comments in this thread that I hope will not be ignored. I will be the first person to say that this entire legal debacle was set off not by a concerned citizen but by someone with a personal vendetta against Dirty D. And as much as I agree it is completely fucked to involve the cops and try to destroy someones livelyhood and possibly take away their freedom over personal bullshit, that shit doesn't matter. It doesn't matter to the cops, it's not going to matter to the judge and it certainly won't matter to the jury.

Once the whistle is blown it doesn't really matter that much who blew the whistle and why. The only thing that matters is was a crime comitted and if so, who knew what and when. If you get caught with your hand in the cookie jar, it doesn't matter if the cookie tasted good or if the kid who ratted you out was a total prick bastard just doing it for his own amusement. Pointing the finger and saying the cookie was bad or the person who tattled on you is fucked up for ratting you out doesn't really help the case when you're sitting in a corner with crumbs on your shirt and chocolate all over your face.

Seriously, the best thing is just to lay low and address the charges in a court of law. If D's found innocent, fucking go wild. Hold a press conference, scream it from the rooftops, ride the positive press wave all the way to the top, I'll cheer you guys on, but doing anything pre-trial is only going to be to D's detriment. :2 cents:

I will not be speaking at this press conference, the attorneys will be speaking.

:thumbsup

He seriously cannot afford a better attorney????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I like that the articles use their handle names.

Why would you have a press statement? The majority of the media doesn't know about this and the vast majority of the public doesn't know. Why have press conference to let everyone know that some pornography who makes money off of exploiting crack whores and from gloryholes has been accused of shooting an underage girl. By the time the media gets finished with what you say at the press release, what will be written will sound something like this " Local smut peddler who made millions off of crack whores and lewd sex acts will be arrested for shooting a minor". That's what the public will hear, not your "press conference" but the media's reprint of what they take from it and what will sell papers. (Which wont make your client look good).

So what is the point of having a press conference ?

Not to mention like it was stated here, what is said could also be used against him.

not smart, I don't see the benefit of doing this, to proclaim your innocence to the public who doesn't know about your problems in the first place ?

My question in all this is, what about the other companies that supposedly shot this girl? Do they know? Were they informed? Are they going to be expecting police raids? If D is going down for a girl using a fake ID, what about the other people that got suckered with said fake ID? Are industry folks supposed to be experts in spotting false identification? I thought there had been other precidents where this kind of thing was involved?

Just honestly curious.

oh yeah ...

That indeed is a good question, it's just hard to figure out chronology unless those companies are aware and check their logs as well. It happened in 2008.

My comments were not aimed it you alone. When you have a criminal defendant you proclaim innocence and move on --

"I am confident my client will be cleared of all charges he/she is currently accused of and his/her innocence will be vindicated. Thank you."

Anything beyond that and it gets risky.

Interesting; You would almost think there is something bigger on the agenda :uhoh :uhoh

This keeps on getting dumber and dumber.
What ever people do to get their name in XBiZ, it is amazing.....

funny I was just going to post the same thing
we're true professionals in porn.

spot on...

See the person in question blew their load on me already. Came out guns blaring. I tend to hold onto my info and use it when it would be most effective. I've given several hints to people so far that should make it fairly easy to pin down who fmltube is.

Their lies the question within a question. Was the Defendant the only shooter to produce adult content of this nature? Was she exaggerating her resume or body of work or did all the other shooters just do simple “softcore” stuff with her before her 18th? Naturally will definitely never know the real truth until it plays out in court. No one knows the game plan except for the players involved….maybe the whole “press conference” idea is just a way to claim for a change of venue…..if the local media pool has tainted the local general publics idea of the case and they can prove without a shadow of a doubt that he will not get a fair and unbiased jury pool…..its not written in stone merely just another angle.

In addition to the words of wisdom Michael has already posted, let me just add this: if any of you are ever in a circumstance in which, after shooting a model and distributing content depicting that model, you have reason to believe that the model in question provided you with a fake ID and/or might have been underage at the time of filming, that is the moment to make first contact with your attorney about the issue.

In that situation, before you do ANYTHING else, call your attorney, tell them anything and everything you know about the situation, and then ask "what should I do?"

Do NOT discuss the matter with anybody else, and do NOT discuss it with any manner of media outlet, in particular.

It's always better to give your attorney a chance to deal with things before they become a publicly known clusterfuck of the "he said/she said" variety, regardless of whether it is a criminal or civil matter, but it is all the more important when there's potential for serious criminal liability. :2 cents:

Always remember " The only time whales get harpooned, are when they come up to SPOUT"

:pimp

I don't know what the DOB on the performer is, but according to the warrant the offense occured in Nov 07. :2 cents:

As a former lawman, I salute you!
http://colorburned.com/imagesgallery...e%20Salute.jpg

and

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p...y/audience.gif

No offense to any one involved, but this thing is one hell of a train wreck already.

Being handled so badly IMHO.

:2 cents:

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :thumbsup

would be funny if they do the same in the press conference.

if you guys remember joe francis faced similar charges, he did make public comments and he did get most of the charges thrown out. Mind you he had a ton more money likely to back himself.

:2 cents::2 cents:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_9Bx0L3n3uA...trainwreck.jpg

And this is nothing yet

lmao

im thinking the same. not to make light of his situation, but using screen names is funny..



oh inb4 next train wreck pic

The sad part of it is the 'news' outlets in adult want to be taken seriously, but can't even bother (or have the balls to) to refer to the person as "William Bidermann Sr AKA WillyPissPump on the boards" but just call them by their completely random board name.

It would be like CNN having some hot news story about a guy and referring to him as Captain Crunch because he used that name to pass a phony check back in 1993...

Yes, because removing said content you could be charged with obstruction of justice. Best to not touch it and contact an attorney

I'm imagining D thinks this is something similar to when he got busted getting a blowjob from a dude in a porn theater ... that he'll get slapped with something minor and spin it into looking like he's a hardcore pervert that lives up to the name Dirty D.

I simply fail to see that happening here.

This cannot be spun into a marketing event.

I wonder if he's bought howilostitall.com just in case.

I still don't believe that he's coming back at all.....I mean his shit has already been seized so there's nothing left to come back to.....He can choose to stay out of the country and still pay his affiliates and make money, or come back to Tampa and get crucified and basically convicted of child porn, which means that his sweet white ass will be grass in prison...Plus he will be left with nothing no matter whether he wins or loses the case, at which time, he will be forced to look for a job at Wendy's.

I mean, I have children and all but I'm not sure that I would come back...Hell, he could just hang out in Mexico if he was willing to lay low....Then he could fly his family in...

I would stay put if I was him and that's what I believe will happen.

Agreed. It sounds like he is just as fucked if he wins as if he losses. Best to stay put, although im sure they have frozen bank accounts and such.