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Lykos 03-12-2010 12:52 PM

Should be interesting this year:)

Evil Chris 03-12-2010 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cwd (Post 16941417)
Formula 1 returns to Montreal this year after being off last season.

I'm going this year.

KILL_FRENZY 03-12-2010 01:56 PM

Used to be a huge Schumi fan. Hope he's still the man after all these years.

plugin 03-12-2010 02:05 PM

I'm excited the season is starting. I like Kubica, but think I will root for Vettel this year.

dyna mo 03-12-2010 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justinsain (Post 16941549)
Maybe that has played a part in why the US hasn't embraced F1.

It seems like something where the guy with the most money wins and you need a zillion dollars just to race. Again, I know nothing about F1 so I'm wondering is it manufacturer against manufacturer or can anyone with enough money start a team.

One NASCAR team cost 20 to 30 million to race over a season and anyone with the money can do it with whatever manufacturer they choose. The fact that the fans can cheer for their favorite manufacturer and or team and or driver gives that extra appeal and more relatable than they could with an F1 team which seems to be " spoiled " for lack of a better term.

Wasn't someone here going to start a F1 team called USF1 or something. What happened to that and why is it so difficult for someone to start a team. That must play a part in the lack of US interest.

I'm not bashing F1 I'd really like the chance to see a race in person. I'm just trying to figure out why it's bombed in the US and interested in your thoughts.

this year several rookie teams have tried to make the 13 team cut but finances and the big 3-4 teams bitch A LOT about various issues with the junior teams trying to enter, consequently, a couple did not make the cut. that's my take on it anyway, some others here can chime in and add to this or correct me.

TheDA 03-12-2010 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justinsain (Post 16941549)
Maybe that has played a part in why the US hasn't embraced F1.

It seems like something where the guy with the most money wins and you need a zillion dollars just to race. Again, I know nothing about F1 so I'm wondering is it manufacturer against manufacturer or can anyone with enough money start a team.

One NASCAR team cost 20 to 30 million to race over a season and anyone with the money can do it with whatever manufacturer they choose. The fact that the fans can cheer for their favorite manufacturer and or team and or driver gives that extra appeal and more relatable than they could with an F1 team which seems to be " spoiled " for lack of a better term.

Wasn't someone here going to start a F1 team called USF1 or something. What happened to that and why is it so difficult for someone to start a team. That must play a part in the lack of US interest.

I'm not bashing F1 I'd really like the chance to see a race in person. I'm just trying to figure out why it's bombed in the US and interested in your thoughts.

You should at least change that first sentence to '...isn't currently embracing F1'.

Since 2000, the US has hosted a F1 grand prix 7 times and has hosted them on and off since the start of the last century :)

Last year the constructors championship was won by a newcomer Brawn GP. Granted, they bought a team that was going out of business and the guy that bought it was very experienced but I don't think there budget was particularly high.

Anyone can setup a team if you have the money and the tech savvy. Some teams buy their engines etc from the likes of Mercedes and BMW.

USF1 ran into finanacial difficulties. They had asked if they could miss out the first few races of this season to try and find additional sponsors but they are no longer included in this season at all.

dyna mo 03-12-2010 02:11 PM

here's the latest bickering/drama- knee-gate!

http://www.worldcarfans.com/11003122...e-gate-protest

http://www.worldcarfans.com/11003122...knee-gate-saga

TheDA 03-12-2010 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 16941828)
this year several rookie teams have tried to make the 13 team cut but finances and the big 3-4 teams bitch A LOT about various issues with the junior teams trying to enter, consequently, a couple did not make the cut. that's my take on it anyway, some others here can chime in and add to this or correct me.

There's only 12 teams. There's 3 new teams though after Toyota pulled out. Not sure of the selection process.

dyna mo 03-12-2010 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDA (Post 16941853)
There's only 12 teams. There's 3 new teams though after Toyota pulled out. Not sure of the selection process.

eh? i thought there was a max of 26 cars, i.e. 13 teams? or was that for just the bahrain event?

TheDA 03-12-2010 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 16941870)
eh? i thought there was a max of 26 cars, i.e. 13 teams? or was that for just the bahrain event?

The USF1 team pulled out last week. It was too late to enter a replacement team.

dyna mo 03-12-2010 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDA (Post 16941892)
The USF1 team pulled out last week. It was too late to enter a replacement team.

yes, i know that, the grid is comprised of 24 cars this year and f1 allows a max of 26 cars.

TheDA 03-12-2010 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 16941905)
yes, i know that, the grid is comprised of 24 cars this year and f1 allows a max of 26 cars.

Edit: Never mind.

dyna mo 03-12-2010 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDA (Post 16941929)
I haven't seen any news of the practice or what's been happening at Bahrain since yesterday but I don't know how they'll have 26 cars running when there's only 12 teams allowed to compete.

i must be confused then. thx for the clarification.

:thumbsup

whore monger 03-14-2010 05:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VS_Jeff (Post 16941556)
I've tried watching F1 on TV, but I just can't get into it.

NASCAR for the win

try watching the two races one more time, you might notice that the big difference between the two types of racing is that in f1 they actually race the entire time, them there nascar boys are SAVING the car 470 miles of a 500 miles race. so if you watch the entire race you will see 15 minutes of real racing right before the end. the f1 boys race from the minute they leave the line, they either crash, blow up or finish the race.
i have been to indy to watch the f1 races and it is a shitty place to watch an f1 race for sure. i have also watched the f1 races in long beach ca where they run on a street course, the way god intended. holy shit was it awesome watching them in the streets, you can move around the track to get different views of the corners or straight away, you can get really close to the track for a much better view, its a whole different experience on a street course way more entertaining. its kind of like a block party with a race in the middle. indy was so boring and the cars were so far away even with binoculars it was hard to see the race. i think the average american is clueless as to the technology of the f1 cars, 20,000 rpms is too much to grasp. i dont think the americans understand how good you really need to be to drive an f1 car, the nascar guys couldn't hold their head up straight as the g forces would mash their heads into the side of the car. micheal andretti went from cart to f1 and got his ass kicked so badly he was humiliated, the first handful of races he couldn't even get out of the other drivers way and was hit on the starting grid...race over in 3 seconds. i don't think he scored a single point all year...unlike nascar you do not get points just for making it to the track and running a few practice laps, in f1 you have to actually earn points by being faster than the other drivers and finish ahead of them in the race to earn points. on the other hand mansell won a f1 championship then the next year won the cart championship, no one has ever gone from cart to be a f1 champ.

dyna mo 03-14-2010 07:58 AM

it' really not about nascar vs. f1, both have their positives and negatives.

SGS 03-14-2010 08:00 AM

I love the chase idea in Nascar but hate the wait till the end when the race often starts.

Altwebdesign 03-14-2010 08:24 AM

usf1 was a disaster from the start

nothing spectacular about the race today, was quite a bore, even if i do say so myself.

but bruno senna... DAMN!! its great to see the senna name!

whore monger 03-14-2010 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Altwebdesign (Post 16945233)
usf1 was a disaster from the start

nothing spectacular about the race today, was quite a bore, even if i do say so myself.

but bruno senna... DAMN!! its great to see the senna name!

i was watching the race when ayrton senna died it really sucked. another driver died on the opposite side of that s curve the day before and the track people did nothing, a pile of tires in each corner would have prevented both deaths. f1 wasn't the same for along time, senna was one of the few drivers that could carry an inferior car to win.

whore monger 03-14-2010 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 16945200)
it' really not about nascar vs. f1, both have their positives and negatives.

i know there is no vs. but it's such a shame that f1 never caught on here in the states. it's so much better racing in every respect. the old saying "racing improves the breed" holds true every where but nascar as no new technology trickle down from nascar...it's like racing harleys for christ sakes, push rod engines with carbs...yet americans love it. guess we really have become a nation of idiots :(

dyna mo 03-14-2010 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whore monger (Post 16945540)
i know there is no vs. but it's such a shame that f1 never caught on here in the states. it's so much better racing in every respect. the old saying "racing improves the breed" holds true every where but nascar as no new technology trickle down from nascar...it's like racing harleys for christ sakes, push rod engines with carbs...yet americans love it. guess we really have become a nation of idiots :(

umm, i own a harley, fyi, harley are raced primarily in europe, not america.

Altwebdesign 03-14-2010 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whore monger (Post 16945528)
i was watching the race when ayrton senna died it really sucked. another driver died on the opposite side of that s curve the day before and the track people did nothing, a pile of tires in each corner would have prevented both deaths. f1 wasn't the same for along time, senna was one of the few drivers that could carry an inferior car to win.

Roland rateznberger I think also reubens barrichello was involved in a smash the same weekend
senna was the greatest driver ever. Even if statistically it's Schumacher

justinsain 03-14-2010 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whore monger (Post 16945540)
i know there is no vs. but it's such a shame that f1 never caught on here in the states. it's so much better racing in every respect. the old saying "racing improves the breed" holds true every where but nascar as no new technology trickle down from nascar...it's like racing harleys for christ sakes, push rod engines with carbs...yet americans love it. guess we really have become a nation of idiots :(

:upsidedow:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

dyna mo 03-14-2010 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 16945544)
umm, i own a harley, fyi, harley are raced primarily in europe, not america.

oops, i didn't write this right. harleys are raced in europe, they are raced flat track in u.s. primarily in the south and they dominate NHRA.

EvilHearts 03-14-2010 02:06 PM

forumla one definitely kicks ass!

TheDA 03-14-2010 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EvilHearts (Post 16945753)
forumla one definitely kicks ass!

I clicked your sig, but it's too big, no? :)

Altwebdesign 03-15-2010 04:20 AM

the early form:
Red Bull
Ferrari
Mercedes
Mclaren

What are your thoughts?

Raw pace wise, i have to think that the red bull is quicker than the ferrari, slightly

punkpred 03-15-2010 04:28 AM

I have a feeling that this season is already won.
1st Alonso
2nd Massa
3rd Hamilton
4th SCHUMIIIIIII!

NBBCash Matze 03-15-2010 04:39 AM

Hmm you forgot Vettel :winkwink:, he was by far the fastest in the race. He just had big trouble with his car (broken exhaust?), thats why he lost three places in the last few laps.

Altwebdesign 03-15-2010 08:32 AM

i think vettel have the fastest car at the moment, i think the title will go to alonso, but we shall see after a few more races and it aint over till its over !

Scott McD 03-15-2010 08:42 AM

Thought the race was boring as hell yesterday. Was really looking forward to the new F1 season, yet i didn't enjoy the race at all. Bring back the old pit stops!


The new points system is just crazy aswell!

SGS 03-15-2010 08:45 AM

The rest of the season will have to pick up a lot from the first race. Completely boring. They need to get the tyres and aero package sorted to make the racing interesting.

dyna mo 03-15-2010 08:52 AM

i hope ecclestone does something to make the racing more exciting, although i find him to be an idiot. it was basically a procession of cars going around the track after the start. with no refueling, tires, etc. it boils down to qualifying and the start, imo.

MaDalton 03-15-2010 08:55 AM

i have to admit: it was a tad boring. but i am sure after a few races they will get closer together when everyone is putting in improvements

closer 03-15-2010 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 16947437)
i have to admit: it was a tad boring.

:2 cents:

dyna mo 03-15-2010 09:00 AM

http://www.smilepolitely.com/scripts...Procession.jpg

Altwebdesign 03-15-2010 09:12 AM

yup a tad boring, found it went really quick as well, but still, its only the first race, hopefully it will pick up, monaco will be fun! 24 cars all fighting for track position!

SGS 03-15-2010 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 16947428)
i hope ecclestone does something to make the racing more exciting, although i find him to be an idiot. it was basically a procession of cars going around the track after the start. with no refueling, tires, etc. it boils down to qualifying and the start, imo.

You think Ecclestone is an idiot?

dyna mo 03-15-2010 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by SGS (Post 16947552)
You think Ecclestone is an idiot?

i do. i find him to act like a egomaniacal puppet master. for example, at bahrain, there was a shortage of pit passes, so ecclestone revoked the passes of the all the driver's physical trainers, so guess what, all the drivers were not available pre-race on the grid for last minute interviews, photographs etc as they were all in their pits working with their trainers.

combine that with his comments re: hitler, saying senna's tragic death was good for f1 and various other retarded statements make him an idiot imo.

Altwebdesign 03-15-2010 02:22 PM

Bernie has a motor mouth but he knows his stuff!

dyna mo 03-15-2010 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Altwebdesign (Post 16948409)
Bernie has a motor mouth but he knows his stuff!

yeah, perhaps idiot is too harsh, he has certainly been successful in his endeavours. and i am glad to see that he is wanting to stop the engineers' and scientists' making the rules.

i've never really understood the need to change the rules so much from season to season anyhoo, imagine if football rules where changed year to year.


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