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Forest 03-15-2010 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArsewithClass (Post 16948016)
100 sales a day of which you want $5 a sale.... What have or what are you doing for 500 a day?

Most affiliate programs offer this kind of payout because most affiliates make a sale or so a day. It gives them a generous income.

no offense dude but 99% of the programs the guys i rep send traffic to pay them higher then the avg wm Because they can send 50-150 in a day with 0 to little maintenance.

unlike the guy that send 5 joins a week that wants everything custom done for him

so the logic of paying a whale less then some guy who send 30 joins a month just doesnt work here.

and as for my 5pps I bring my guys to the table. without me there are no joins from them. and I manage them so the rep or program owners only have to deal with me and my guys can concentrate on generating sales =)

RyuLion 03-15-2010 04:40 PM

Wow..........

BobG 03-15-2010 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Forest (Post 16948801)
no offense dude but 99% of the programs the guys i rep send traffic to pay them higher then the avg wm Because they can send 50-150 in a day with 0 to little maintenance.

unlike the guy that send 5 joins a week that wants everything custom done for him

so the logic of paying a whale less then some guy who send 30 joins a month just doesnt work here.

and as for my 5pps I bring my guys to the table. without me there are no joins from them. and I manage them so the rep or program owners only have to deal with me and my guys can concentrate on generating sales =)

You're the rep for the reps?

MK Ultra 03-15-2010 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BobG (Post 16948838)
You're the rep for the reps?

a "Whale Broker" :1orglaugh

Phoenix 03-15-2010 04:56 PM

ill be hitting up everyone in t his thread as well :)

Nicky 03-15-2010 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BobG (Post 16948838)
You're the rep for the reps?

Just think if I repped him to a program rep? I'd be the guy that rep's the one who rep's the rep's :helpme:winkwink:

Nicky 03-15-2010 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 16948843)
ill be hitting up everyone in t his thread as well :)

You have celeb volume $50+ per sale can be arranged :thumbsup

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kush 03-15-2010 05:11 PM

So you're an agent for a whale? lol I've heard it all.

Yeah guys that can send that kind of traffic really need help finding good deals online.

Unless you happen representing yourself and using the agent idea to get an extra $5 per sale... which is not a bad idea ;)

DVTimes 03-15-2010 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArsewithClass (Post 16948016)
100 sales a day of which you want $5 a sale.... What have or what are you doing for 500 a day?

Most affiliate programs offer this kind of payout because most affiliates make a sale or so a day. It gives them a generous income.

If your saying that he can push 100 sales a day? I have websites in my program that are full of exclusive content produced every week, however would offer $25 a sale, which would still give your friend $2000 a day and yourself the $5 a sale if you really needed that much. :2 cents:

just think, you do only 5 sales a month.

marketsmart 03-15-2010 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BobG (Post 16948838)
You're the rep for the reps?


smutnut 03-15-2010 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 16948843)
ill be hitting up everyone in t his thread as well :)

Why? I feel like a dumb ass even getting involved.

I can make you 100 sales a day but there isn't even a sponsor out there offering 10 bucks a day at 100 sales a day to make it worth my while?

goes with...

Let me sell my SEO BULLSHIT when I can take 10 top spots on any Search Engine and promote ten sponsors to make way more than the same...

yada yada yada i don't even want to get into the other shit! :1orglaugh

Okay I will!

1:200 sales a day and why do you even need an affiliate?

If you're such great sponsor that converts why do you need $100 promos to get affiliates to promote you?

Just asking...

Forest 03-15-2010 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kush (Post 16948880)
So you're an agent for a whale? lol I've heard it all.

Yeah guys that can send that kind of traffic really need help finding good deals online.

Unless you happen representing yourself and using the agent idea to get an extra $5 per sale... which is not a bad idea ;)

i know its a difficult concept to understand but traffic brokering has been around since the dawn of clicks

:thumbsup

Forest 03-15-2010 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BobG (Post 16948838)
You're the rep for the reps?

think about it for a second

if your a whale and command the highest payouts in the biz and send to 10 different programs you have 10 different people you have to deal with for creative, payouts issues ect ect

with me they only have to deal with one and i deal with all the bs.

and get paid very well to do it thank you =)

BobG 03-15-2010 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Forest (Post 16948911)
think about it for a second

if your a whale and command the highest payouts in the biz and send to 10 different programs you have 10 different people you have to deal with for creative, payouts issues ect ect

with me they only have to deal with one and i deal with all the bs.

and get paid very well to do it thank you =)

Yeah, $180k/year for that is not bad. Congrats!

Forest 03-15-2010 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BobG (Post 16948914)
Yeah, $180k/year for that is not bad. Congrats!

180k? keep going up. i broker a lot more then 100 joins a day =)

Phoenix 03-15-2010 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Forest (Post 16948917)
180k? keep going up. i broker a lot more then 100 joins a day =)

:pimp:pimp:pimp:pimp:pimp:pimp:pimp

kush 03-15-2010 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Forest (Post 16948907)
i know its a difficult concept to understand but traffic brokering has been around since the dawn of clicks

:thumbsup

Hey, you're right.

If you are able to actually get some kind of guarantee out of traffic at a rate of 1:300 using your guy's regular promotion methods... then that's great.

Picking the right program with high conversions and payouts is a skill. 30,000 uniques a day to send sponsors is no small number, and 1:300 ratio sure is better than 1:anything above that.

I just have a hard time seeing how a single person who's got the skills/experience/motivation to push that many sales couldn't also make the deals or find the programs to continue/expand what he does. But if you're really that good at what you do, and he's good at what he does, kudos to you my friend, you make a great team! :thumbsup

smutnut 03-15-2010 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Forest (Post 16948917)
180k? keep going up. i broker a lot more then 100 joins a day =)

Me too! I play by the minute, fuck that 1 zillion sign ups a day bull shit, that's for small timers! :thumbsup

Forest 03-15-2010 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kush (Post 16948924)
Hey, you're right.

If you are able to actually get some kind of guarantee out of traffic at a rate of 1:300 using your guy's regular promotion methods... then that's great.

Picking the right program with high conversions and payouts is a skill. 30,000 uniques a day is no small number, and 1:300 ratio sure is better than 1:anything above that.

I just have a hard time seeing how a single person who's got the skills/experience/motivation to push that many sales couldn't also make the deals or find the programs to continue/expand what he does. But if you're really that good at what you do, and he's good at what he does, kudos to you my friend, you make a great team! :thumbsup

it is a good team thanks. kind of a niche i carved out for myself after being a rep for a program for a few years. its symbiotic of sorts. i manage the programs for them, make creatives for them, deal with payout issues and whatever else at no cost to them. for them its a win win. and for the program its a win win. most programs pay 10% wm ref. i get a bit better then that for refering whales. they make more money on the volume sent.

everyone makes money =)

Forest 03-15-2010 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smutnut (Post 16948904)
Why? I feel like a dumb ass even getting involved.

im glad i took you off ignore just for that quote

thanks for playing! back on ignore you go =)

smutnut 03-15-2010 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Forest (Post 16948933)
im glad i took you off ignore just for that quote

thanks for playing! back on ignore you go =)

If you were from Hollywood CA instead of Hollywood FL you'd know never to put anyone on ignore, so hopefully you're lying, but I'm still trying to understand why someone brokers someone who is getting sign ups. The whole concept is too Hollywood CA for me to ignore without ridiculing to DEATH! :1orglaugh

Forest 03-15-2010 05:52 PM

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kush 03-15-2010 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Forest (Post 16948931)
it is a good team thanks. kind of a niche i carved out for myself after being a rep for a program for a few years. its symbiotic of sorts. i manage the programs for them, make creatives for them, deal with payout issues and whatever else at no cost to them. for them its a win win. and for the program its a win win. most programs pay 10% wm ref. i get a bit better then that for refering whales. they make more money on the volume sent.

everyone makes money =)

Right on.

From your experience, and in 2010 (not before the tube era), what do most programs that pay 35-40+ per paid trial consider a "whale" affiliate? How many paid joins per day on average do you have to send in that price bracket? 10? 20?

Forest 03-15-2010 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kush (Post 16948952)
Right on.

From your experience, and in 2010 (not before the tube era), what do most programs that pay 35-40+ per paid trial consider a "whale" affiliate? How many paid joins per day on average do you have to send in that price bracket? 10? 20?

when i started in this biz 10 years ago 100 a day was barely a whale

today if you can send 20 joins a day most programs will consider you a whale

smutnut 03-15-2010 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Forest (Post 16948961)
when i started in this biz 10 years ago 100 a day was barely a whale

today if you can send 20 joins a day most programs will consider you a whale

i think 20 joins a day is very good, especially at 1:200 sign ups that all sponsors push and 100 dollar promos. How can you lose?

craftyc 03-15-2010 06:05 PM

oh the good ole days!

D Ghost 03-15-2010 06:07 PM

hit me up....

smutnut 03-15-2010 06:08 PM

Okay so we're at 2000 dollars a day in the worse case scenario. Myself I don't know If I can manage with this but even at ten percent agent fees with 200 dollars a day I would probably be an agent if I had absolutely no talent whatsoever but could sell it.

Forest 03-15-2010 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smutnut (Post 16948949)
If you were from Hollywood CA instead of Hollywood FL you'd know never to put anyone on ignore, so hopefully you're lying, but I'm still trying to understand why someone brokers someone who is getting sign ups. The whole concept is too Hollywood CA for me to ignore without ridiculing to DEATH! :1orglaugh

ok i took u off again so ill explain. do not ridicule that which you do not understand (not a jab just some advice)

why would a whale not want me to rep them to different programs. it doesnt cost the whale a dime. he gets many benifits from it. he gets to focus more of his time and attention on generating more traffic which in turn makes him more money. have you ever had to chase a sponsor for a missing payment or issue or creative? takes time from your day. time = money. they dont have to do that. thats what im here for.

Nicky 03-15-2010 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smutnut (Post 16948949)
If you were from Hollywood CA instead of Hollywood FL you'd know never to put anyone on ignore, so hopefully you're lying, but I'm still trying to understand why someone brokers someone who is getting sign ups. The whole concept is too Hollywood CA for me to ignore without ridiculing to DEATH! :1orglaugh

You're really creating great biz for your self in this thread champ :thumbsup

ArsewithClass 03-15-2010 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Forest (Post 16948801)
no offense dude but 99% of the programs the guys i rep send traffic to pay them higher then the avg wm Because they can send 50-150 in a day with 0 to little maintenance.

unlike the guy that send 5 joins a week that wants everything custom done for him

so the logic of paying a whale less then some guy who send 30 joins a month just doesnt work here.

and as for my 5pps I bring my guys to the table. without me there are no joins from them. and I manage them so the rep or program owners only have to deal with me and my guys can concentrate on generating sales =)

Forest, the reason I said about the amount, wasn't saying that other companies do not give that amount. However, I was asking if you would be interested in sending good traffic to a decent up & coming company with new exclusive content updates for your traffic to become real & decent sales.
Sometimes more of less is better than less of more. :2 cents: Would you guy that has 100 joins a day, not be interested in sending some of that traffic to our collection of sites but I can only offer $25?


Quote:

Originally Posted by allanuk (Post 16948888)
just think, you do only 5 sales a month.

What are you even doing in this thread? Forest has decent traffic for decent content sites, not crap mrban sites with untidy camera work, awful design & a small amount of poor content! Now fuck off!

Farang 03-15-2010 06:14 PM

Bumping a business thread.

HandballJim 03-15-2010 06:16 PM

who are the winners. :pimp

Forest 03-15-2010 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArsewithClass (Post 16948994)
Forest, the reason I said about the amount, wasn't saying that other companies do not give that amount. However, I was asking if you would be interested in sending good traffic to a decent up & coming company with new exclusive content updates for your traffic to become real & decent sales.
Sometimes more of less is better than less of more. :2 cents: Would you guy that has 100 joins a day, not be interested in sending some of that traffic to our collection of sites but I can only offer $25?




What are you even doing in this thread? Forest has decent traffic for decent content sites, not crap mrban sites with untidy camera work, awful design & a small amount of poor content! Now fuck off!

sorry dude but my guys wont do anything below 40pps for them. i appreciate the offer though.

smutnut 03-15-2010 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicky (Post 16948989)
You're really creating great biz for your self in this thread champ :thumbsup

I have screenwriting credits and except for the whole WGA thing (which I consider a mafia shakedown) I can't understand the agent thing out here either. Seriously. I think I'm more curious than against what he is doing but I would speak this same why to an agent repping me just for the record.

Actually I'm probably giving him business bumping this thread right and good for him, if he can actually get things done...

Forest 03-15-2010 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smutnut (Post 16949009)
I have screenwriting credits and except for the whole WGA thing (which I consider a mafia shakedown) I can't understand the agent thing out here either. Seriously. I think I'm more curious than against what he is doing but I would speak this same why to an agent repping me just for the record.

Actually I'm probably giving him business bumping this thread right and good for him, if he can actually get things done...

you cant understand allowing someone to take the tedious side of your business away from you and doing it for you at zero cost to you with all the upside benefits that the time freed up brings?

wow

rogueteens 03-15-2010 06:31 PM

I can see the boards being full of people offering to be brokers over the next few weeks after this thread.

Forest 03-15-2010 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rogueteens (Post 16949025)
I can see the boards being full of people offering to be brokers over the next few weeks after this thread.

you have to have the product to broker :thumbsup


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