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No, I'm saying Obama has been more full of shit than Bush, and hiding behind Baier's stupidity to try and claim that Obama would have given clear, legitimate answers. I'm saying that's a false notion. |
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Because one side did it, doesn't make it right |
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Eh, I'd give it more leftist propaganda than CNN.
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Those are some good points. I mainly stay with Dennis Prager, who judges things more or less, objectively.
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all the polls don't like this The GOP sees this as a feeding frenzy, the sharks are circling Why would they back the healthcare bill? it makes no sence for them to piss off the voters, the people they are working for. They already fucked that up, they learned. And the Speaker has even said support the bill, don't worry about your job Here in California, we have Barbera Boxer, been in office for EVER. Her polls are in the single digit range And all this, doesn't mean what they are doing in right |
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I wish they would have just stopped with the stupid bill and slowly started working on the individual parts that everyone would for the most part, agree on. This is a stupid move and there's zero guarantee that it will pass Sunday.
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HR 4789 is a bill that would allow every american citizen the ability to buy into medicare, at cost.
Pay for what it costs with no cash incentivized peon insurance asshole trying to deny you in order to get a bonus. What a concept. |
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What do you mean?
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It basically is a done deal though honestly. Stupak is the only goof who's pretending he has secret friends who will vote no with him. But the fact is, he hasn't actually said point blank that he's not going to vote yes, lol. He just says that he THINKS there's provisions in the bill where the government would be using taxpayer money to pay for abortions. Something that nobody else but him is seeing. Without him and like 10 more people, it's a yes.
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Yes they can nation, it's called raising premiums, which is what the insurance companies are going to do. And depending on your pre-existing condition, your premiums are going to skyrocket.
Also, just read this, not sure how accurate it is because as you say, it's fox news.. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010...x-investments/ |
So, Obama tried to answer question and was cut off. That equals "ownage"? LOL. You tards still calling the president Barack "Hussein" Obama is even more hilarious. You are trying to hard
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Except that there is provision where any premium increases have to be justified by an independant agent, and that 80%+ of your premium HAS to be spent on YOUR care. So raise away if you can is the message to insurance companies.
Doesnt it bug you that they're making *record profits* during these times? "let them eat cake" comes to mind.. |
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No, what bugs me is that we're switching a somewhat corrupt group(private insurance), to a more corrupt group(government). I'm 100% for limited government and for private sector. If these corrupt insurance companies want to screw us, so be it, but when they fail, they need to stay that way. The bailouts were a slap to the face of this country's traditional values.
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You jumped the shark with that one.
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Actually, there were many causes for the problem and none of them had to do with Bush's and Reagan's deregulation.
1. Going off the Gold Standard in 1971 2. The American consumers starting to spend more than they could afford. 3. Credit expansion(ok, some bank fuckups lol) 4. Trade Surplus turning into a trade deficit 5. Budget deficit increasing 6. National Debt increasing 7. Debasing of the US Dollar 8. Clinton's removal of bank loan caps. The only issue would be the credit crisis which while big, is nothing compared to the subprime mortgage and the monetary and fiscal mismanagement I've outlined. If we had a true free market based on the Austrian School of economics, I believe we would have never had these issues. |
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btw... the logic behind switching from the gold standard was that a commodity like gold can be devalued in the world while labor (production) could not and that is why the currency is based on output now rather than gold. |
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If you want the biggest reason for America's economic fuckups, look no further than the inception of the Federal Reserve. |
Public and private sector aside, people mismanage their funds and then want the government to give them a handout.
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I'm going to log off and buy a lottery ticket right now, before the world actually comes to an end! |
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What a colossal waste of an opportunity by Fox. They get the president on the hot seat in prime time where they can fire off tough questions from a serious journalist and call him to task if he doesn't tell the truth and what do they do?
Send in a partisan clown who not only avoids asking questions the people want the answers to in favor of procedural questions that only other party hacks and policy wonks really care about but he's disrespectful to the president of the US in his own house. They won't be ashamed of their behavior because they have no shame, and it would serve them right if Obama shut Fox out of any future interviews, especially with that rude little imbecile. FTR- I thought Obama did dodge a few questions and pulled out the politician speak on a few answers, which is what I would expect an elected official to do. Had he been given more time to answer without being cut off by that troll he perhaps could have provided more. At the least a journalist would have him set up for tougher questions and called him out on evading, if not in the interview then in the countless dissections afterward. |
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