Not at all. I was looking at the forums that you talked about. I am saying that it is possible that some of the pirate/thief sites that RYC has successfully worked against may be attempting a smear campaign. It's the only thing that makes sense to me. But no, I was not and did not say that YOU were doing it. Your only spreading the word of what you read. That's the insidiousness of a smear campaign. Someone types something on a forum, people read it, find it interesting and repeat it elsewhere. Not accusing you of doing anything wrong at all. :)

Agreed!
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Except "strike 4" was left out...Get a baseball bat and break their fucking knees! :1orglaugh

That does not sound like Eric at all.

I don't see why their family should be to blame.

It's not about blaming their family, it's simply one tactic some people use to leverage the thief to do what's right. It's probably also done to hurt the thief where he lives, since the thief in many cases is hurting the person who owns the intellectual property, content, etc.

It all boils down to this: when you steal and then ignore DMCA's there should be no surprise when other tactics are used.

I'll say this much, if someone contacted me and told me about someone in my family thieving from them that family member would certainly hear from me about it. And if it turned out that my family member was clearly in the wrong then they would REALLY hear from me about it. I definitely would not want any more fucking phone calls (probably at 3 in the morning) about his/her fucking thieving ways. Family or not, it shouldn't matter, you either condone thievery or you don't.

I don't.

Does this mean I agree with the tactics described in this thread? Sure, why not. Why should the victim have to play fair when the thief obviously doesn't?

The response that I was trying to write, thank you.


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This seems reasonable. Fuck with someone and then they fuck with you and you whine about it? Don't steal shit and you do not have an issue.

If someone is in the wrong and stealing content, I don't feel bad for them at all.

But at the same time, I strongly feel family is off limits, always.

If someone is stealing from you and you have proof positive, if you want to fight dirty, fight dirty. But harassing family to me is beyond the pale. What's next? Fucking with their kids at the bus stop?

EXACTLY!!!! Like he say, if you are unable to protect your own family family then shame on you! :thumbsup

Exactly.

Where will we draw the line?

Eric from RYC is a complete idiot like I've mentioned on other boards.

If you feel that you/your family are being harassed by them, report this to local authorities and consult with a lawyer on whether you have legal grounds to sue or take some other action for harassment.

DMCA is a legal issue that should be resolved in the court of law against the person committing the infringement, don't see how their family has anything to do with.

To those saying that it's okay to harass family because someone is a 'thief', we live in a civilized country where these things are resolved through appropriate channels.

This is a lie. We don't call and harass webmasters. We will occasionally call a host and give them a nice lecture but we don;t work with webmasters. Post proof or be banned dude. Jesus.

It's normal for pirates do to these sorts of things. I have been out of town, no laptop and on vacation since the 18th. I just got in and read all of this. (first one in two years btw) :thumbsup Too funny.:1orglaugh

Hey.. I'll hit you up in the morn to see what happened. I have been out of town. We can probably help you find out who did this.

I agree with Robbie...this doesn't sound like Eric at all. I have always found him to be 100% professional in our dealings.

Thats because your a moron..

So ermm, first you want me banned, then you want to contact me on icq to find out who did this? I hope im not following this right.

Maybe you should read the thread again eric. I wasnt the one being harrassed, i didnt even post your name or the companies name in this thread. So of what would i need to post proof? Any quotes that i posted are directly from other boards, you even where replying in some of them.

Lets make this clear, i dont have anything against you, any complaints you send to me (which where very few) where taken care of right away and i dont think its even worth the hassle anymore to try and proof some point by NOT taking something down.

Whats left was a question of what is ethical and normal these days, thats the question i asked in this thread.

You can still hit me up on icq. Just a little confused on the "get me banned" stuff.