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The Demon 03-21-2010 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 16965949)
Well. There is a bright spot. Even though THIS particular bill isn't going to bring the cost down for anybody to see the doctor...at least now that it is gonna pass, Obama can finally stop obsessing over it and do something to get people some jobs in this country.

Like what? Continue expanding the public sector? Lol

Robbie 03-21-2010 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 16965953)
Like what? Continue expanding the public sector? Lol

Answer is below:

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 16965949)

EDIT: Hell he already has! He's gonna hire 16,000 NEW IRS agents to make sure we all buy insurance against our will!


Bman 03-21-2010 08:15 PM

Congrats! One one hand I like that we have socialised medicine. I think it is great for society as a whole. Trust me I dont know anybody in this country who lost their house or has medical bills having them stressed out.

On the other hand. Last night I bought a 12 pack of Coronas from the Government liquor store for $25 and a pack of smokes for $10 and just filled up my gas tank at $4.50 /gallon.

Wecome to the nickel and dime!

weekly 03-21-2010 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 16965949)
Well. There is a bright spot. Even though THIS particular bill isn't going to bring the cost down for anybody to see the doctor...at least now that it is gonna pass, Obama can finally stop obsessing over it and do something to get people some jobs in this country.

The number one reason for this fucked up economy is the war in Iraq. That is a hard fix. Obama has done more to change the future of America than most presidents in history. All in just over a year. That is amazing. That is real power. You guys can all hold your breath until you turn blue, but this man is an historical game changer whether you like it or not. All you might do is buy a Corvette. This guy goes down in history.

will76 03-21-2010 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by weekly (Post 16965614)
Its amazing to see the right wing fail this badly. The people have spoken. Americans finally get what the rest of the free world takes for granted. Obama has accomplished more in a year than GW Bush did in eight. Wow....

can't wait to start paying for it. :disgust

weekly 03-21-2010 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by will76 (Post 16965962)
can't wait to start paying for it. :disgust

Somebody has to. You don't run up a huge deficit over 8 years and the cost of a useless war without a cost. Who the fuck do you think pays for this shit?

The Demon 03-21-2010 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by weekly (Post 16965960)
The number one reason for this fucked up economy is the war in Iraq. That is a hard fix. Obama has done more to change the future of America than most presidents in history. All in just over a year. That is amazing. That is real power. You guys can all hold your breath until you turn blue, but this man is an historical game changer whether you like it or not. All you might do is buy a Corvette. This guy goes down in history.

Holy shit, Weekly once again proves he knows nothing about anything, just like BFT3K. I don't think BFT3K would even dare make this claim.

Weekly, the #1 reason for this fucked up economy is monetary and fiscal mismanagement for a better part of 30+ years, NOT Iraq. Iraq isn't even on the radar at this point. Obama has done more to? ROFL. Yea, Obama goes down in history as doing in 1 year what Bush did in 8. Gotta love how incredibly stupid and delusional you are weekly.:thumbsup

The Demon 03-21-2010 08:20 PM

Edit: Yes everybody, you read it correctly. Weekly and his stupidity/bias, has just blamed the entire economic debacle on the War in Iraq.. ROFLROFLROFL

GatorB 03-21-2010 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 16965968)
Edit: Yes everybody, you read it correctly. Weekly and his stupidity/bias, has just blamed the entire economic debacle on the War in Iraq.. ROFLROFLROFL

Well the fact is if we never went to war with Iraq the deficit would be more than $1 TRILLION less than what it is now.

The Demon 03-21-2010 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 16965975)
Well the fact is if we never went to war with Iraq the deficit would be more than $1 TRILLION less than what it is now.

It's possible, it's also possible that if I was black, I could jump higher and join the NBA.

Everybody, Dems and Republicans voted for the war. They knew what they were getting into, no sense crying about it now.

It's also possible that if Obama wasn't president, he wouldn't increase or debts and deficits more in 1 year, than Bush did in 8.

Then again, considering our national debt, the Iraq War was pennies.

weekly 03-21-2010 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 16965975)
Well the fact is if we never went to war with Iraq the deficit would be more than $1 TRILLION less than what it is now.

A useless war and all that money could have healed a lot of people. Morons who don't understand this are...well...morons.

mikeyddddd 03-21-2010 08:26 PM


The Demon 03-21-2010 08:27 PM

I repeat, Weekly has blamed the economic debacle on the Iraq War.

Weekly also has conveniently ignored the fact that Obama has spent at least as much as Bush did in 8 years. All in 1 year. Kinda makes you miss bush:)

PornMD 03-21-2010 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by weekly (Post 16965946)
You need this more than most. Maybe porn is not for you if you are buried in a mortgage. Move on.

Maybe I'm not in porn, dumbfuck. See my sig - I buy and sell domains, some of which happen to be adult domains. And my situation wouldn't be so bad if I wasn't having to help support family and friends who have lost their fucking jobs.

So you're telling me that Obama was 100% correct on focusing for nearly a year primarily on health care reform when the economy is in the toilet and people are losing jobs and foreclosing left and right? Because it's good for the long-term future? Do you have any idea how many people would simply love to be able to afford to continue to have a home next month for their spouse/children and themselves? That's kind of vital to their children's long-term future too, ya think?

Health care was A problem. It was not the BIGGEST problem. It was affecting a segment of the population. The biggest problem is affecting nearly ALL of the population. Oh yea, and just a few years ago my brother had, without insurance, been treated multiple times at hospitals without paying a dime for it. His credit was already in the shitter so having creditors after him to pay the bills doesn't mean shit to him. So ironically, even with the kind of person who WOULD be helped by this bill...

(and before you say anything, no I do not agree with his approach, think he was being a leech on society or whatnot, but it shows that people without health care could get some health care for free if they knew what to do)

The Demon 03-21-2010 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by PornMD (Post 16965985)
Maybe I'm not in porn, dumbfuck. See my sig - I buy and sell domains. And my situation wouldn't be so bad if I wasn't having to help support family and friends who have lost their fucking jobs.

So you're telling me that Obama was 100% correct on focusing for nearly a year primarily on health care reform when the economy is in the toilet and people are losing jobs left and right? Because it's good for the long-term future? Do you have any idea how many people would simply love to be able to afford their spouse/children and themselves to continue to have a home next month?

Health care was A problem. It was not the BIGGEST problem.

I'm not sure if Obama has done a single thing right yet.. I mean if someone can pinpoint something (not someone with the IQ of an amoeba), I'm willing to listen.

weekly 03-21-2010 08:30 PM

You guys have to remember that the majority of Americans voted for Obama. A whole lot of the reason they voted for him was for health care reform. Tonight he delivered. The people demanded it and he gave it to them. Not many politicians do this.

Joshua G 03-21-2010 08:30 PM

nobody is gonna pay down the debt. The last POTUS to wipe out the debt was andrew jackson.

Robbie's got the best points here. it really doesnt matter that it passed. without cost controls, forcing the poor to buy insurance with government subsidies is only going to bankrupt the government faster. The only good thing is maybe the dems can move on to fuck up bank reform.

Rangermoore 03-21-2010 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by weekly (Post 16965614)
Its amazing to see the right wing fail this badly. The people have spoken. Americans finally get what the rest of the free world takes for granted. Obama has accomplished more in a year than GW Bush did in eight. Wow....

Yes it is a sad day for America...

The Demon 03-21-2010 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by weekly (Post 16965987)
You guys have to remember that the majority of Americans voted for Obama. A whole lot of the reason they voted for him was for health care reform. Tonight he delivered. The people demanded it and he gave it to them. Not many politicians do this.

Of course, Weekly's stupid ass is ignoring the past year, when the majority of Americans not only did not want Obamacare, but now disapprove of his presidency. Way to present facts dumbass :)

Young 03-21-2010 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 16965905)
Dude relax lol, it'll never turn into anything. After all the lawsuits, the stalls, and fights with the house and the senate, they'll either have to start all over or remove a huge chunk of the bill. Not to mention, if/when the Republicans win the house and/or the senate, you can kiss it goodbye.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Youre a fucking moron. I hate people who have no idea what they are talking about. Keep taking orders from the Republican talking points. All this talk of law suits and taking it to the Supreme Court is absolute nonsense.

It is law now. Live with it. :2 cents:

The Demon 03-21-2010 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by joshgirls (Post 16965988)
nobody is gonna pay down the debt. The last POTUS to wipe out the debt was andrew jackson.

Robbie's got the best points here. it really doesnt matter that it passed. without cost controls, forcing the poor to buy insurance with government subsidies is only going to bankrupt the government faster. The only good thing is maybe the dems can move on to fuck up bank reform.

They already did, in the form of Clinton, although incidentally. Where do you think the subprime mortgage crisis came from?

cykoe6 03-21-2010 08:33 PM

The left should indeed be celebrating as they have officially destroyed the constitutional republic that the founding father's created. From now on no one can realistically say that there is even a theoretical limit on government power in the US. A very very sad day that will live in infamy. :(

Robbie 03-21-2010 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 16965986)
I'm not sure if Obama has done a single thing yet

There, I fixed that for you. Because he has disappointed the hell out of me.

I was hoping he would do even half of what he claimed during the campaign. But so far he hasn't seemed to take charge on anything. The health bill is all Pelosi and Reid.

He didn't write it or even help on it.

My only gripe with Obama is that he doesn't seem to be in charge yet. For his sake, that better change before the next presidential election.

The Demon 03-21-2010 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Young (Post 16965991)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Youre a fucking moron. I hate people who have no idea what they are talking about. Keep taking orders from the Republican talking points. All this talk of law suits and taking it to the Supreme Court is absolute nonsense.

It is law now. Live with it. :2 cents:

It's actually not law yet, shows what yet another stupid liberal knows. Keep watching CNN dumbshit:)

BFT3K 03-21-2010 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 16965975)
Well the fact is if we never went to war with Iraq the deficit would be more than $1 TRILLION less than what it is now.

The Iraq war that Rumsfeld and the Bushies told us would last no longer than 6 days, and cost around $2 billion dollars... based on WMDs and Iraq's fake involvement in 9/11.

Add $2.5 TRILLION lost to unnecessary tax breaks for the richest of the rich, and suddenly we're talking about $3.5 TRILLION added to our debt, and the righties are crying about the healthcare bill costs.

Where were you when Bush handed Big Pharma HUGE tax breaks, with no way to pay for them?

Hypocrites!

The Demon 03-21-2010 08:34 PM

And once again, Obama's deficit spending have made Bush look Jewish :)

weekly 03-21-2010 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by PornMD (Post 16965985)
Maybe I'm not in porn, dumbfuck. See my sig - I buy and sell domains. And my situation wouldn't be so bad if I wasn't having to help support family and friends who have lost their fucking jobs.

So you're telling me that Obama was 100% correct on focusing for nearly a year primarily on health care reform when the economy is in the toilet and people are losing jobs left and right? Because it's good for the long-term future? Do you have any idea how many people would simply love to be able to afford their spouse/children and themselves to continue to have a home next month?

Health care was A problem. It was not the BIGGEST problem.

Dude, I am sorry you have failed in your business. However, this bill will do more to fix the economy than just about anything else I can think of. Here is the box. Think outside it. Nothing else has worked. Someday you will look back at tonight and will not tell your kids that you thought it was fucked up. Why? Because they will just accept medical care like we accept running water. Think about that.

weekly 03-21-2010 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 16965995)
he doesn't seem to be in charge yet.

Apparently he is now.

The Demon 03-21-2010 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by weekly (Post 16966000)
Dude, I am sorry you have failed in your business. However, this bill will do more to fix the economy than just about anything else I can think of. Here is the box. Think outside it. Nothing else has worked. Someday you will look back at tonight and will not tell your kids that you thought it was fucked up. Why? Because they will just accept medical care like we accept running water. Think about that.

You can't think, that's your problem.

Btw, I added your quote in my profile because it was the dumbest thing I've heard thus far, dumber than thedoc which is saying a lot.

While you're at it, please tell me how a "health care bill" is supposed to fix the economy? RORLFORLFORLF what a fucking idiot.

Joshua G 03-21-2010 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 16965986)
I'm not sure if Obama has done a single thing right yet.. I mean if someone can pinpoint something (not someone with the IQ of an amoeba), I'm willing to listen.

i like robert gates.

Rangermoore 03-21-2010 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by weekly (Post 16965987)
You guys have to remember that the majority of Americans voted for Obama. A whole lot of the reason they voted for him was for health care reform. Tonight he delivered. The people demanded it and he gave it to them. Not many politicians do this.

Uneducated majority...No worries, it will be held up in the court system and never see the light of day, then in Nov the demotards will be gone.. It will be repealed. I have already changed my taxes to not pay any fed tax so you will be paying for me. When the IRS comes knocking I will just lawyer up and settle for pennies on the dollar... LMFAO...:thumbsup

Rangermoore 03-21-2010 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 16965995)
There, I fixed that for you. Because he has disappointed the hell out of me.

I was hoping he would do even half of what he claimed during the campaign. But so far he hasn't seemed to take charge on anything. The health bill is all Pelosi and Reid.

He didn't write it or even help on it.

My only gripe with Obama is that he doesn't seem to be in charge yet. For his sake, that better change before the next presidential election.

He is already done...

The Demon 03-21-2010 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Rangermoore (Post 16966008)
Uneducated majority...No worries, it will be held up in the court system and never see the light of day, then in Nov the demotards will be gone.. It will be repealed. I have already changed my taxes to not pay any fed tax so you will be paying for me. When the IRS comes knocking I will just lawyer up and settle for pennies on the dollar... LMFAO...:thumbsup

You're only going to confuse Weekly with facts.

JaneB 03-21-2010 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 16966018)
You're only going to confuse Weekly with facts.



That is true. Weekly is so stupid he doesn't realize how much we are all going to have to pay for this. I am happy that 36 of the states plan to fight this.

epitome 03-21-2010 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 16965722)
I love the use of "we" here as if you represent the majority of canadians. I know quite a few who have a completely opposite opinion and believe obama is a black bush dooming our economy. But nice to see your bias.

Talk about bias ... you bring the skin color of Obama into something where his skin color is irrelevant.

I'd love to know how many Canadians you actually know. That whole "I know Canadians" dribble is nothing more than "I'm not racist because I have a black friend."

You're pathetic.

PornMD 03-21-2010 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by weekly (Post 16966000)
Dude, I am sorry you have failed in your business.

I'm helping to support my family - I'm not married or have children, I'm talking about parents/step-parents, brothers/sisters, even friends. If I wasn't fortunate enough to have gotten into domains when I did and found major success with it, I can tell you that more than just my brother would be living on the street right now (oops, in his case he's living in his car - my bad). If I was supporting only myself like what someone single my age would be doing in an avg economy would, I'd be passing with flying colors. So fuck that part of your quote, buddy. Stop making some shitty fucking assumption/judgment. Maybe your family is one of the few that hasn't been affected by the economy - if so, congrats - want a fucking medal?

That's besides the point anyways. Tell me exactly how this helps the economy NOW. Helping it in the long run might be great, but tell someone who's about to be living on the street in a couple of months who omg happens to not be sick with anything major YET how the past year of focus on this bill has helped their lives. "Nothing has worked" because nothing was tried - he was focused on this bill instead of working to find a solution or perhaps trying something that might work. This could be the greatest solution to health care the world has ever seen, but tons of people will still be losing their homes and will be jobless, and most of those people won't give a flying fuck about this bill.

Also, don't put words into my mouth like I can already tell you probably will - I do NOT blame the problems of this economy on Obama. Bush clearly fucked the country up due to the Iraq War among other things and Obama would have to reverse the momentum downward from the bank failures etc. in addition to building momentum upward. That said, he got elected just as much because he said he could fix the economy (and because everyone was scared to death of McCain dying = Palin as president), and it's such a more widespread problem affecting so many more people than this health care issue that he should have been PRIMARILY focused on THAT instead. But no, he saw the vast majority dem congress and senate and thought "shit, this health care reform thing will be a breeze to pass" and thought wrong, then rather than let it rest until later and shifting focus on something more important that he should have been focused on anyways, he basically waged a several month campaign to get health care passed. Hey, great.

So when tons of democrats get voted out in the next elections, Obama can wonder why the people are so pissed at them after they passed the almighty health care reform bill.

stickyfingerz 03-21-2010 09:01 PM

Prediction....

Largest turn over in the next two elections ever seen.

And the people saying "Its now law"... time to exit the discussion because you are clueless. :2 cents:

epitome 03-21-2010 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Rangermoore (Post 16966014)
He is already done...

His term is 25% done.

Do you judge your entire day based on how things are at 11 AM?

The Demon 03-21-2010 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by epitome (Post 16966056)
Talk about bias ... you bring the skin color of Obama into something where his skin color is irrelevant.

Did you completely NOT understand that? How retarded are you? What does his skin color have to do with anything? Calling him a black bush means he's fucking up the economy like bush, and he's BLACK. I can't believe I have to explain elementary school concepts to grownups. No wonder you're in this business.

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I'd love to know how many Canadians you actually know. That whole "I know Canadians" dribble is nothing more than "I'm not racist because I have a black friend."

You're pathetic.
As opposed to saying "we" as if you speak for the entire population? +1 for logic and objectivity:)

The Demon 03-21-2010 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 16966058)
Prediction....

Largest turn over in the next two elections ever seen.

And the people saying "Its now law"... time to exit the discussion because you are clueless. :2 cents:

Well, there goes the liberals lol


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