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selena 03-22-2010 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by epitome (Post 16968913)
Dave, I respect you and I agree with what you're saying, so I'll give you the rundown.

In many threads I mention that I used to be in real estate. I've had Crohn's since I was 16. I cannot get health insurance unless I'm working for someone else (not possible unless I get a lot of sick days) because of my pre-existing condition.

Without insurance, you tend to push things with your health until it's too late.

In late October 2008, I pushed it too far and needed a colostomy. There were some complications (hernia around the incision and they couldn't re-operate) with the surgery and I had a hard time getting used to the bag. I went six months without working.

Things were rough and running like I used to for 16 hours a day will never be an option again.

Last April, I thought "I was briefly in the porn biz in '02...let me give that another go." I literally started with two domains and $8 virtual hosting.

In under a year I've grown that into multiple thousands of dollars a month but I'm still a little short each month from being comfortable. There is always one or two bills eating away at me ... this time it's my yearly heating bill ... $1700 due on April 1st and another $600 due 30 days after or they shut off my power. I've got a lot of that covered but still need some more.

I'm at that point where I see the light at the end of the tunnel. I have some amazing things in development, some great ops going on, but the money is just not all the way there yet.

The other day you reminded people that you used to bounce checks. If I had to guess where I am right now, I'm probably at the point you were right when you were writing that last check that was going to bounce. That point where no matter how promising the future is, you still have BIG problems.

I didn't want to give my sob story, but I am one of those people that says "if you're only making X, you shouldn't be in adult." To my credit, I did start in probably the worst year to start and started with $0. In fact, I've spent less than $50 in traffic to date because all of my income goes into regaining the life I had pre-surgery.

Almost there...

That is why $205 can be so important despite being in adult. My traffic growth, ratios and other numbers say I shouldn't go anywhere.

No one owes anyone an explanation for why they want to be paid money due to them.

:2 cents:

baddog 03-22-2010 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beemk (Post 16968928)
yeah, because she has a vagina.

She has been around a while. She has worked with a lot of people. :2 cents:

epitome 03-22-2010 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 16968921)
Wow. You have real actual health problems.

Lori had a breakdown and people were taking up donations.

To her credit, she has Crohn's Disease too (well, she told me she had it after I told her I had it ... but I'm giving the benefit of the doubt and saying she does) and it's a hell of a disease.

If everything she said in that thread was true, then those problems could have very well led to a flare up for her and she could have very easily had her problems compounded.

My personal take on the situation is that it was never supposed to go this far. I don't air my dirty laundry on the boards and I'm pretty sure she was aware of it. Despite my email promises to "take it to the boards" I didn't a few times and would email back pretty much saying I'm serious this time, please pay me or I'm taking it to the boards.

I can be a big pushover when I let myself be one. I kept giving her the benefit of the doubt. For awhile it would have been nice to have the money but I survived without it. The present comes and I actually need it. I'm stressing over this electric bill and the disrespect shown by outright ignoring me was the breaking straw.

Remember when I said she was rude about my own personal problems but didn't want to go into details? Well, here goes ... everyone knows the money situation now so I have nothing to lose...

When I was doing work for her my Internet was shut off. I told her I'd hustle to get the money by text message. I no longer have it but she sent back really nasty like "Jesse, I have a business to run and I do not have time for your problems. Get the work done."

I was writing reviews for her at the time. I stayed up all night surfing sites from my phone and writing the reviews on my computer. When the morning came, I called and paid by check and managed to cover that check in time.

That text message stung so bad. Prior to that she was well aware of my problems and seemed truly sympathetic. At most we were talking about a 24 or 48 hour delay in doing my work. I hate even being 5 seconds late (by the way, there are plenty of gay sponsors that can vouch for my work and my turnaround) but based on what I've read on this board, to get something only 24 to 48 hours late is a freaking miracle.

Anyway, I ended up getting her work done on time. I busted my ass squinting at my cell phone all night but it got done and it got done correctly. How do I know I did it correctly? She put it up on her sites...

I remember that text message so vividly because she was so demeaning and attempted to minimize my own problems. Meanwhile, this is the woman that said riding on her coat tails would bring me amazing things. It looks like all it brought was an unpaid debt.

Semi-Retired-Dave 03-22-2010 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by epitome (Post 16968913)
Dave, I respect you and I agree with what you're saying, so I'll give you the rundown.

In many threads I mention that I used to be in real estate. I've had Crohn's since I was 16. I cannot get health insurance unless I'm working for someone else (not possible unless I get a lot of sick days) because of my pre-existing condition.

Without insurance, you tend to push things with your health until it's too late.

In late October 2008, I pushed it too far and needed a colostomy. There were some complications (hernia around the incision and they couldn't re-operate) with the surgery and I had a hard time getting used to the bag. I went six months without working.

Things were rough and running like I used to for 16 hours a day will never be an option again.

Last April, I thought "I was briefly in the porn biz in '02...let me give that another go." I literally started with two domains and $8 virtual hosting.

In under a year I've grown that into multiple thousands of dollars a month but I'm still a little short each month from being comfortable. There is always one or two bills eating away at me ... this time it's my yearly heating bill ... $1700 due on April 1st and another $600 due 30 days after or they shut off my power. I've got a lot of that covered but still need some more.

I'm at that point where I see the light at the end of the tunnel. I have some amazing things in development, some great ops going on, but the money is just not all the way there yet.

The other day you reminded people that you used to bounce checks. If I had to guess where I am right now, I'm probably at the point you were right when you were writing that last check that was going to bounce. That point where no matter how promising the future is, you still have BIG problems.

I didn't want to give my sob story, but I am one of those people that says "if you're only making X, you shouldn't be in adult." To my credit, I did start in probably the worst year to start and started with $0. In fact, I've spent less than $50 in traffic to date because all of my income goes into regaining the life I had pre-surgery.

Almost there...

That is why $205 can be so important despite being in adult. My traffic growth, ratios and other numbers say I shouldn't go anywhere.

My bad bud.
I did apologize later in the thread.

I'm not usually that cruel.
Please send me your email, maybe there is something we can do to help out with sales or even a donation for the cause. We have all been there as you remember with my story. Hang in there.

From earlier.
------------------

Sounds like there is more to the story epitome so I apologies for my comment.
It sounds like you have tried working things out but the lack of communications is what made you post here.

Hope you guys work it out.

Brujah 03-22-2010 07:40 PM

So what do you do epitome? Write text for sites?

Semi-Retired-Dave 03-22-2010 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 16968959)
So what do you do epitome? Write text for sites?

Good question, what can we all do to help?

kush 03-22-2010 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by epitome (Post 16968913)
Dave, I respect you and I agree with what you're saying, so I cannot get health insurance unless I'm working for someone else.

Actually, there's a way around that.

Basically, I'm self employed. But I have a corporation under my name as well.

Affiliate checks are sent to my corporation, and my corporation pays a human resources company to hire me and pay me a salary, and through that human resources company I receive health insurance as part of a very large group plan that accepts you regardless of preexisting conditions. My company technically leases "me" from the human resources company which has a big enough pool of employees that this type of 1-cost-for-all plan is available and you are accepted pre-existing conditions or not (they don't even ask).

There ya go :thumbsup

Edit - FYI it costs about $20/week admin cost for this human resources service. And best of luck with your situation.

epitome 03-22-2010 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberAge-Dave (Post 16968964)
Good question, what can we all do to help?

Thanks, brujah and Dave and the few that have contacted my privately.

I am a chief cook and bottle washer.

Writing seems to be what I end up doing the most. I've done site reviews, scene descriptions, blog posts, you name it...

The most exciting thing I am doing these days for others is helping a smaller affiliate program expand. They had limited affiliate tools and I have set them up with FHG's, sponsor hosted blog, POTD, etc. I also give input on what affiliates love and what they hate. It is an ongoing project that may never end. He reported by email today that he is extremely happy with his return thus far.

I also just started writing and re-writing things for a big site. This includes site descriptions of a few sentences for a site directory and condensing their longer reviews into shorter ones for another area on their site.

I am currently building a few new sites and I am like a kid in a candy store. I can work for 8 hours straight and it feels like 30 seconds.

The working for others helps me plug the holes. I have a few ongoing clients but when an unexpected bill lands in my mailbox, I fire up a message on the boards saying I'm available and I get work.

My days currently look like this: 1 to 4 hours managing and growing my existing sites, 4 to 7 hours on new sites, 2 to 5 hours working on what my clients need that day.

I am always available to look at jobs or projects. If it's something I cannot do or do not want to do, I will be the first one to say it.

Sly 03-22-2010 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kush (Post 16969101)
Actually, there's a way around that.

Basically, I'm self employed. But I have a corporation under my name as well.

Affiliate checks are sent to my corporation, and my corporation pays a human resources company to hire me and pay me a salary, and through that human resources company I receive health insurance as part of a very large group plan that accepts you regardless of preexisting conditions. My company technically leases "me" from the human resources company which has a big enough pool of employees that this type of 1-cost-for-all plan is available and you are accepted pre-existing conditions or not (they don't even ask).

There ya go :thumbsup

Edit - FYI it costs about $20/week admin cost for this human resources service. And best of luck with your situation.

I'm assuming that is a service offered by a company? Who offers that?

epitome 03-22-2010 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ShellyCrash (Post 16968054)
Epitome, I'm so sorry to hear about your health situation. My best friend has Crohns. Have your tried probiotics at all? Do they help?

I don't know how much you want to get into on the boards, but I'm very familliar with GI probs. If you ever want to feel free to hit me up on ICQ if you want to talk about it. I might have some good advice that can help, but also if you just want someone to listen, anytime.

Sorry, Shelly, I am just getting to reading from the beginning again to make sure I have not missed anyone.

I've tried just about everything. Probiotics is new to me but if they go by any other name then I have probably tried them. My main problems are infections. Remicade worked wonders for a few years but it eventually stopped.

I started getting more frequent bowel obstructions which is why we went the colostomy route. I should have gotten this thing years ago but was always afraid of it. Oh was I ever misinformed!

I still get infections but they are not as severe. I've also had some other weird things happen to me, but overall I am the healthiest I have been for while.

One thing scares the shit of me. I have a lytic lesion on my spine that grows between CT scans. If they don't grow, you're fine...if they do grow, it may be nothing or it may be cancer. Naturally, I cannot afford to see a specialist or get the tests done. I'm always tired but my appetite is healthy and its been well over a year since it was discovered. I'm thinking its not cancer. I'll get worried if I start shedding weight.

As for all of the pain I have, the pain meds keep them in check. Everything else is tolerable so long as I do not have much pain.

I've heard that with the new bill that passed I may be able to purchase health insurance starting in 2014. I'll make sure I stick around to find out. :winkwink:

kush 03-22-2010 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly (Post 16969149)
I'm assuming that is a service offered by a company? Who offers that?

http://www.human-capital.com/

And that was $20/week per employee. Good company I've been using them for about 5 years.

Waddymelon 03-22-2010 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberAge-Dave (Post 16968027)
If you are hurting for $205.00 and you are in the Adult Biz, something is wrong.
Just write if off, no need to bring it to the boards.

Awesome!! I'm going to say to electric company.

"If you are hurting for $205 and you are in the utility business, something is wrong. Just write it off, no need to turn off my power."

I'm sure that Edison Electric makes WAY more than you do, so they should clearly see the logic in this!

I'm gonna say that to all my hosting companies as well.

epitome 03-22-2010 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 16968567)
ill sum it up since most of you are tl;dr

jessie and his partner populated a site for lori ... lori paid them out many times ....lori noticed she was not getting paid from sponsors...she noticed that none of the linking codes carried the name she asked..instead used a name that belonged to them .... asked for account infos many times .. got nothing

asked for email list got nothing

used the site they had been working on for lori to build another site using her contacts

Post proof.

What did I do or want to do with her contacts? And what contacts?

Hardly anyone on the gay side knows who she is and that is where I peddle my wares.

In fact, if I wanted anything to do with her business, I wouldn't have told her that thegaybroker.com wasn't registered and for her to register it herself. Yeah, go look at the reg date ... want email or ICQ logs of that convo (forgot where we talked about it, but all of my ICQ's and emails are always saved).

98% of what I do is on the gay side of the business. I don't want or need her contacts. I have plenty of my own.

kristin 03-22-2010 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kush (Post 16969197)
http://www.human-capital.com/

And that was $20/week per employee. Good company I've been using them for about 5 years.

It's brilliant.

epitome 03-22-2010 09:44 PM

Alexa rank of site Lori is all worked up over: 1,297,737

Alexa ranking of site I built in September/October: 135,641

Yup, I'd be nowhere without TAB! :winkwink:

Oh the best part ... my site with Alexa 135k ... I used to force her 300 hits a day to help her build her own site up. What did I charge her? $0. So, some of that historic Alexa is thanks for me. What did I get out of it? Shit on!

She was kind enough to let me fly some banners and a text link on her site. I did appreciate the 3 to 6 hits a day that gave me.

dyna mo 03-22-2010 09:50 PM

a self-employed friend setup his corp then setup a group insurance policy for all his employees (himself)

fris 03-22-2010 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beemk (Post 16968896)
has anyone actually hired the adult broker and see a decent roi?

doubt it.

ShellyCrash 03-22-2010 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by epitome (Post 16969192)
Sorry, Shelly, I am just getting to reading from the beginning again to make sure I have not missed anyone.

I've tried just about everything. Probiotics is new to me but if they go by any other name then I have probably tried them. My main problems are infections. Remicade worked wonders for a few years but it eventually stopped.

I started getting more frequent bowel obstructions which is why we went the colostomy route. I should have gotten this thing years ago but was always afraid of it. Oh was I ever misinformed!

I still get infections but they are not as severe. I've also had some other weird things happen to me, but overall I am the healthiest I have been for while.

One thing scares the shit of me. I have a lytic lesion on my spine that grows between CT scans. If they don't grow, you're fine...if they do grow, it may be nothing or it may be cancer. Naturally, I cannot afford to see a specialist or get the tests done. I'm always tired but my appetite is healthy and its been well over a year since it was discovered. I'm thinking its not cancer. I'll get worried if I start shedding weight.

As for all of the pain I have, the pain meds keep them in check. Everything else is tolerable so long as I do not have much pain.

I've heard that with the new bill that passed I may be able to purchase health insurance starting in 2014. I'll make sure I stick around to find out. :winkwink:

You'd probably want to talk to someone since you've already gone the colostomy route just to make sure this is kosher. Probiotics are good bacteria that helps ballance the bacteria in your intestines and help break down food to make digestion easier. This is what I can tell you:

I don't want to make this a tl;dr so in a nutshell I had a massive GI tract infection. They kept misdiagnosing me, it took them about 2 years to figure out what was wrong, so for two years I had a bacterial infection wreaking havoc on my body. I couldn't keep any food in, and it was just as much vomiting as anything else. All my tests for things like crohns, h.pylori, gluten allergy, etc, all came back negative and all signs pointed to cancer.

Luckily I found a doctor who was able to figure out the puzzle and one of the things he put me on to help my recovery was a probiotic designed for people with Ulcerative Colitis. It's not cheap, but to me when I was trying to rebuild the flora in my GI tract this stuff was my savior. It's called VSL#3- http://www.vsl3.com/

My best friend was diagnosed with Crohns when she was around 10. She takes a cheaper probiotic to help her maintain her crohns that is much more affordable. She get's acidophilous from the health food store, the good probiotics are kept refrigerated, and you'll want to keep them refrigerated too. Her sister is also a very good friend of mine and she just tested positive for crohn's last year. Her flares are very few and very light so she's not really doing anything to manage right now.

I'm doing much better. I'm barely sick anymore, but I've had to make alot of diet changes. I rarely have to take probiotics anymore, but every now and then I'll get a bad week where I will need to. I don't know if I'll ever be normal again. Most days I'm good but sometimes I still get that burning from the inside - like my guts are trying to eat themselves. I have ulcers too so sometimes my pain level can get pretty serious, but that usually only happens when I have to take something for my migraines.

I would look into the HR company info that was provided and see what you can do. I know it's hard when you don't have two pennies to rub together, but the sooner you can get that checked the better. Tumors aren't always cancerous, but sometimes at bipsy they will find "pre-cancer" cells. You always want to catch things as early as possible to increase the effectiveness of any treatment you may need.

I feel for you, you're awesome for having such a good attitude about it. I salute you :thumbsup

epitome 03-22-2010 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 16968752)
lori never stole anything

jessie and his partner had been told to use linking codes that belonged to lori on a site they had been working on for lori - instead they use their own codes instead of lori's

hence stealing all the sales the site generated..and then used lori's contacts they got to dev other sites

Again, who was my partner? You have absolutely no idea what is going on other than what was fed to you.

Ask Lori to show you every email or ICQ ever exchanged. Show me a single example of even the slightest hint that I was anything but a one-man show last year.

This is a warning to those that are intimately connected to this and currently working on an ICQ smear campaign behind my back ... just remember that if there is one thing that the adult industry loves, it is gossip. Cut-n-paste can be your best friend or worst nightmare. Remember anything that you tell someone else is only private if they choose for it to remain that way... :2 cents:

Press Release Pro 03-22-2010 10:20 PM

Did anyone post any evidence yet ?

TheAmericanCannibal 03-22-2010 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShellyCrash (Post 16968648)
Is someone pushing their Broker / PR services in this thread? I've seen it mentioned a couple of times but can't seem to see anyone trying to capitalize off of this?

For the record I didn't come here promoting my PR services.
In fact I dont come here to promote anything other than http://www.2257safe.com these days.

Don't be like Dirty D- take some precautions before it's too late- store your records with a trusted THIRD PARTY CUSTODIAN OF RECORDS

:pimp

epitome 03-22-2010 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberAge-Dave (Post 16968954)
My bad bud.
I did apologize later in the thread.

I'm not usually that cruel.
Please send me your email, maybe there is something we can do to help out with sales or even a donation for the cause. We have all been there as you remember with my story. Hang in there.

From earlier.
------------------

Sounds like there is more to the story epitome so I apologies for my comment.
It sounds like you have tried working things out but the lack of communications is what made you post here.

Hope you guys work it out.

Don't worry, you've always been a good one in my book. You'd have to say something a lot worse than that to make me question your likability.

I saw on page 1 or 2 where you re-read it closer and apologized.

We're good! :thumbsup

epitome 03-22-2010 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kush (Post 16969101)
Actually, there's a way around that.

Basically, I'm self employed. But I have a corporation under my name as well.

Affiliate checks are sent to my corporation, and my corporation pays a human resources company to hire me and pay me a salary, and through that human resources company I receive health insurance as part of a very large group plan that accepts you regardless of preexisting conditions. My company technically leases "me" from the human resources company which has a big enough pool of employees that this type of 1-cost-for-all plan is available and you are accepted pre-existing conditions or not (they don't even ask).

There ya go :thumbsup

Edit - FYI it costs about $20/week admin cost for this human resources service. And best of luck with your situation.

That is awesome! If you don't mind, I am going hit you up by email tomorrow and hopefully you'll point me to a good company that can do just that! :thumbsup

I can swing $20 a week. I'm putting out a little shy of $1k a month in medical expenses so anything will be a big improvement!

epitome 03-22-2010 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kush (Post 16969197)
http://www.human-capital.com/

And that was $20/week per employee. Good company I've been using them for about 5 years.

I didn't get this far down before posting. I really appreciate you making me aware of this company.

The workaround I have been working towards was being able to hire someone because I'd then qualify for my own small business plan. I can sign up with this company a lot sooner than I can hire someone.

epitome 03-22-2010 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShellyCrash (Post 16969247)
You'd probably want to talk to someone since you've already gone the colostomy route just to make sure this is kosher. Probiotics are good bacteria that helps ballance the bacteria in your intestines and help break down food to make digestion easier. This is what I can tell you:

I don't want to make this a tl;dr so in a nutshell I had a massive GI tract infection. They kept misdiagnosing me, it took them about 2 years to figure out what was wrong, so for two years I had a bacterial infection wreaking havoc on my body. I couldn't keep any food in, and it was just as much vomiting as anything else. All my tests for things like crohns, h.pylori, gluten allergy, etc, all came back negative and all signs pointed to cancer.

Luckily I found a doctor who was able to figure out the puzzle and one of the things he put me on to help my recovery was a probiotic designed for people with Ulcerative Colitis. It's not cheap, but to me when I was trying to rebuild the flora in my GI tract this stuff was my savior. It's called VSL#3- http://www.vsl3.com/

My best friend was diagnosed with Crohns when she was around 10. She takes a cheaper probiotic to help her maintain her crohns that is much more affordable. She get's acidophilous from the health food store, the good probiotics are kept refrigerated, and you'll want to keep them refrigerated too. Her sister is also a very good friend of mine and she just tested positive for crohn's last year. Her flares are very few and very light so she's not really doing anything to manage right now.

I'm doing much better. I'm barely sick anymore, but I've had to make alot of diet changes. I rarely have to take probiotics anymore, but every now and then I'll get a bad week where I will need to. I don't know if I'll ever be normal again. Most days I'm good but sometimes I still get that burning from the inside - like my guts are trying to eat themselves. I have ulcers too so sometimes my pain level can get pretty serious, but that usually only happens when I have to take something for my migraines.

I would look into the HR company info that was provided and see what you can do. I know it's hard when you don't have two pennies to rub together, but the sooner you can get that checked the better. Tumors aren't always cancerous, but sometimes at bipsy they will find "pre-cancer" cells. You always want to catch things as early as possible to increase the effectiveness of any treatment you may need.

I feel for you, you're awesome for having such a good attitude about it. I salute you :thumbsup

Very interesting and I appreciate you taking the time to type that out. I have something else to look into.

I am not a big natural remedy person myself, but I do believe in the power of bacteria and such. After all, we only have penicillin, one of the most effective drugs ever invented, because of mold.

epitome 03-22-2010 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheAmericanCannibal (Post 16969307)
For the record I didn't come here promoting my PR services.
In fact I dont come here to promote anything other than http://www.2257safe.com these days.

Don't be like Dirty D- take some precautions before it's too late- store your records with a trusted THIRD PARTY CUSTODIAN OF RECORDS

:pimp

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

You don't have to spam this thread, anyway. You already know that I am a happy customer of 2257safe.com!

kush 03-22-2010 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by epitome (Post 16969332)
I didn't get this far down before posting. I really appreciate you making me aware of this company.

The workaround I have been working towards was being able to hire someone because I'd then qualify for my own small business plan. I can sign up with this company a lot sooner than I can hire someone.

The health insurance itself is currently about $460 a month per employee. The $20/week is the admin fee. To qualify for insurance you have to pay yourself at least minimum wage at 40hrs/week, not to mention social security,federal/state income tax, FUTA, SUTA... I'm sorry I hope my post wasn't interpretted as $20/week insurance! They calculate all that for you, handle the papers, and deduct it from your business banking account, you get a w2 at the end of the year.

epitome 03-22-2010 11:06 PM

On that note, I think I am all caught up with posts that I felt warranted a response. If I missed you, I apologize.

To those that hung in there through my multiple posts, I appreciate it.

To those that have decided to hold judgment until the facts -- or should I say lack thereof -- come out, I appreciate that as well.

I did sign a NDA/Non-Compete so it probably wouldn't be wise on my part to "post proof" until I get permission from the other side. On that note, I have nothing to hide, so if that permission is given, then be prepared for a PDF that will take up a little bit of space on your drive.

In the meantime, I am waiting for proof of the allegations made against me by Lori, Chris and Julie. It's 11 PM on the west coast so I will give through tomorrow until I go through the official channels to request that the board rules be enforced.

In the meantime, I give full permission to Lori Z. to post anything business related that is definitive proof of the allegations. Let me reiterate the words business related.

epitome 03-22-2010 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kush (Post 16969355)
The health insurance itself is currently about $460 a month per employee. The $20/week is the admin fee. To qualify for insurance you have to pay yourself at least minimum wage at 40hrs/week, not to mention social security,federal/state income tax, FUTA, SUTA... I'm sorry I hope my post wasn't interpretted as $20/week insurance! They calculate all that for you, handle the papers, and deduct it from your business banking account, you get a w2 at the end of the year.

Oh no, I got you the first time ... anyone that would underwrite me for $20/wk. doesn't deserve to be in business. :1orglaugh

I don't know how they charge only $20 a week for the admin fee considering all that they do. They must be running a really tight ship and if you've been using them for five years and they are still around then they must have found a way!

Goodnight, GFY! I'm exhausted!

I have a feeling that I am nowhere closer to getting the money that is due to me, which is quite sad. Here's to hoping this thread doesn't have to get as long as the Curious Cash one!

The Adult Broker 03-22-2010 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam_WildCash (Post 16968613)
Good on you Lori! Hope to see you in Phoenix

Hi Adam, Hope all is great down under! Thanks and yep, will see you in Phoenix and I will have more deals for you :thumbsup

The Adult Broker 03-22-2010 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 16968597)
million dollar idea: spell check app for iphone!

OMG! Love that idea

and GFY admin, fyi-when I tried to log in to GFY mobile it routed me left field a bit before I could access. Also when I was posting from mobile I didn't see a 'preview post button' only a 'submit reply' and I couldn't scroll up to review the post so another reason I just sent it off. I will surf the mobile site of GFY to become more familiar with it. It's a great site nonetheless.:thumbsup

The Adult Broker 03-23-2010 12:45 AM

to clarify - I purposely shut down GayPornCenter to see 'what would happen' once it went down and no linking codes were active and 'nobody' had access.

Took less than 36 hours to receive certain emails from certain 'people' who were MIA for a long time. Pretty much wrapped it all up with a nice little bow.

I have a full plate in biz and in life and I was considering letting it go and taking another hit but the email threat of board action had me reconsider being 'nice' about this one. I saw what being so nice got me before...learned my six figure lesson.

So yea, actual board action sealed my decision. And only evidence I need to qualify for Eric is this statement posted earlier from him:

"Oh yes, using GPC email address. Apparently, that did happen a few times to people I email just about every day. It was still setup in my Outlook for awhile and when I dropped down the box to select an account I may have selected the wrong one. That account was removed when I was doing some maintenance."

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My reply to that statement: our records show and emails seen this was happening as late as January 2010 which is 6 months AFTER going MIA.

Obviously, we have a lot more to the equation but I'm leaving that to my attorney unless someone cares to step up and clear up - It's not as scary as it may appear, I lived it. And I am much nicer when going that route. :upsidedow



K - G'nite all. Was a great day and looking forward to an amazing tomorrow.

epitome 03-23-2010 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by The Adult Broker (Post 16969495)
to clarify - I purposely shut down GayPornCenter to see 'what would happen' once it went down and no linking codes were active and 'nobody' had access.

Took less than 36 hours to receive certain emails from certain 'people' who were MIA for a long time. Pretty much wrapped it all up with a nice little bow.

I have a full plate in biz and in life and I was considering letting it go and taking another hit but the email threat of board action had me reconsider being 'nice' about this one. I saw what being so nice got me before...learned my six figure lesson.

So yea, actual board action sealed my decision. And only evidence I need to qualify for Eric is this statement posted earlier from him:

"Oh yes, using GPC email address. Apparently, that did happen a few times to people I email just about every day. It was still setup in my Outlook for awhile and when I dropped down the box to select an account I may have selected the wrong one. That account was removed when I was doing some maintenance."

--
My reply to that statement: our records show and emails seen this was happening as late as January 2010 which is 6 months AFTER going MIA.

Obviously, we have a lot more to the equation but I'm leaving that to my attorney unless someone cares to step up and clear up - It's not as scary as it may appear, I lived it. And I am much nicer when going that route. :upsidedow



K - G'nite all. Was a great day and looking forward to an amazing tomorrow.

Wow really? So you're denying that I emailed you in December, February and March? And that on Feb 1 you did not ask for another copy of the invoice so you could get it sorted?

Question: Why didn't you lock me out of email if I was such a threat? Also, like I said, since you know when the emails happened, you also know the contents. Go ahead, post them. There is nothing there.

You also never terminated our relationship. I simply stopped working because you were too broke to pay me.

6 months after going MIA? You paid me in October and I tried to collect multiple times after ... that is not going MIA. Your math isn't the best.

Also, how does a few incidental emails back up your claim that I changed link codes and were skimming sales from you?

What is evident here is that you do not pay attention to your business and refuse to accept responsibility for that. Had I ripped you off, like you are alleging, you would have done a systems audit to make sure I did not have any access.

You also wouldn't have been discussing possible biz deals with me just six weeks ago.

You were busted, plain and simple.

Lori, you have a lot of enemies. They are now presenting themselves to me. Had I known 1/8th of what I do now, I wouldn't have typed a single keystroke for you.

It all makes sense while awhile back when I started a positive thread about you on this board you told me to never do it again because there is a lot of old things that may be stirred up. I didn't think to do a search of what those things are, but now I do not need to.

Post REAL proof Lori. Post proof of me STEALING from you, which is what you are accusing. Don't say that me accidentally using an email account to send messages that had nothing to do with your business or your sites to people that I talk to on a regular basis is proof. That is called a mistake. Apparently, no bigger of a mistake than you forgetting to cancel the account.

What you are alleging is outright fraud and theft. Prove that.

epitome 03-23-2010 01:09 AM

BTW, fraud with the email account would be me emailing someone pretending like I was with GPC and had business to conduct on your or the sites behalf. Emailing my friends and close associates from the wrong address because it's one up from my "business personal account" in the drop box in Outlook hardly constitutes fraud.

The Adult Broker 03-23-2010 02:05 AM

Jesse - the rules of GFY are that I post evidence of something - using an email account intentional or not constitutes evidence you are utilizing what does not belong to you. I didn't shut you out for a reason - as stated in my previous posts, we had footwork to do so shutting you and another out would have hindered our efforts so I just let it ride. Not to mention that you owe me money from our other 'partnership' - you know the one - I did my footwork in other areas too. And that took time and therefore took time away from deals but I got the info I needed.

All other proof will be sent directly to all parties.

Oh and if I had a nickel for every time someone said something about me or slammed me, well then that would have me retired by now. I think many of us would be retired by now if one values their business by and gets paid out from drama and time wasting threads like this.

At the end of the day...the deals are rolling again and the dollars are flowing again for those that are rolling with TAB and The Mobile Broker. That is all that matters and that is my priority. TIME=MONEY.

I've already been through the tsunami and walked through fire so rumors, perception and gossip hold no court in my life anymore - have fun with them.

Maybe take a cue from that and get through your own issues and recurring storyline of being a victim and get power around your illness - I walk that same path with Chron's disease as you well know - I have for 34 years - and we had many conversations about that and I guided you in your personal life and took time to walk you through your pain - the very pain and hospital situations and surgeries that I have lived all these years. Difference is---I finally got power around it all, took back my life, stopped letting it control my life, but most of all, I NEVER played into so much as to become a victim and use it as a business angle. I mentioned in my wipe out thread in December...all these years in business NOBODY knew what I deal with health wise - because I still ROSE UP and performed and conducted business. I SHOWED UP in business while in a hospital bed, I SHOWED UP at shows straight out of a hospital bed, I returned to hospital beds right AFTER SHOWS.

I do what it takes to stand up, and when I couldn't get up - I revealed it once, not day after day after day, post after post after post.

And here I am again - I ROSE again. So perhaps consider who YOU ARE BEING that keeps you in this vicious cycle of drama - drama that is the very thing that feeds your illness to stay alive and strong. YOU CREATE YOUR ILLNESS - YOU FEED IT - Why don't you break your pattern - you see how it affects every area of your life, not just business. but every area, every relationship.

I was there for you on a level money can't buy. You can't buy someone's heart. And you were on my heart level at one time. And from the sounds of our conversations, which were many and more personal than even business, I paid forward to you in ways that have nothing to do with business - and I was happy to be there for you -even while I was going through my own losses and deaths but i still took time to walk and talk with you through this aspect of life - I've walked a long road and all that I learn and continue to learn I pay forward in hopes it helps someone else. That is how I live. But I have a limit when it crosses the line of compromising my own well being.

I can no longer feed into what you are creating.


This is my final direct conversation with you on this thread. If you care to call me and get in communication in a manner that is positive and non dramatic, I am open to receiving your call.

It is your choice. Decisions are your Destiny. Choose your life in the manner it was meant to be lived and in what you have searched for-- peace - - only you can give yourself that. When you do, the good that is waiting to come into your life will appear. That affirmation I still hold for you.

And with all I have expressed in these posts both in reactive ego with typos as well as from the heart...I officially say peace out now to this thread.

You know where to find me -

CurrentlySober 03-23-2010 06:18 AM

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candyflip 03-23-2010 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by The Adult Broker (Post 16969546)
Jesse - the rules of GFY are that I post evidence of something - using an email account intentional or not constitutes evidence you are utilizing what does not belong to you. I didn't shut you out for a reason - as stated in my previous posts, we had footwork to do so shutting you and another out would have hindered our efforts so I just let it ride. Not to mention that you owe me money from our other 'partnership' - you know the one - I did my footwork in other areas too. And that took time and therefore took time away from deals but I got the info I needed.

All other proof will be sent directly to all parties.

Oh and if I had a nickel for every time someone said something about me or slammed me, well then that would have me retired by now. I think many of us would be retired by now if one values their business by and gets paid out from drama and time wasting threads like this.

At the end of the day...the deals are rolling again and the dollars are flowing again for those that are rolling with TAB and The Mobile Broker. That is all that matters and that is my priority. TIME=MONEY.

I've already been through the tsunami and walked through fire so rumors, perception and gossip hold no court in my life anymore - have fun with them.

Maybe take a cue from that and get through your own issues and recurring storyline of being a victim and get power around your illness - I walk that same path with Chron's disease as you well know - I have for 34 years - and we had many conversations about that and I guided you in your personal life and took time to walk you through your pain - the very pain and hospital situations and surgeries that I have lived all these years. Difference is---I finally got power around it all, took back my life, stopped letting it control my life, but most of all, I NEVER played into so much as to become a victim and use it as a business angle. I mentioned in my wipe out thread in December...all these years in business NOBODY knew what I deal with health wise - because I still ROSE UP and performed and conducted business. I SHOWED UP in business while in a hospital bed, I SHOWED UP at shows straight out of a hospital bed, I returned to hospital beds right AFTER SHOWS.

I do what it takes to stand up, and when I couldn't get up - I revealed it once, not day after day after day, post after post after post.

And here I am again - I ROSE again. So perhaps consider who YOU ARE BEING that keeps you in this vicious cycle of drama - drama that is the very thing that feeds your illness to stay alive and strong. YOU CREATE YOUR ILLNESS - YOU FEED IT - Why don't you break your pattern - you see how it affects every area of your life, not just business. but every area, every relationship.

I was there for you on a level money can't buy. You can't buy someone's heart. And you were on my heart level at one time. And from the sounds of our conversations, which were many and more personal than even business, I paid forward to you in ways that have nothing to do with business - and I was happy to be there for you -even while I was going through my own losses and deaths but i still took time to walk and talk with you through this aspect of life - I've walked a long road and all that I learn and continue to learn I pay forward in hopes it helps someone else. That is how I live. But I have a limit when it crosses the line of compromising my own well being.

I can no longer feed into what you are creating.


This is my final direct conversation with you on this thread. If you care to call me and get in communication in a manner that is positive and non dramatic, I am open to receiving your call.

It is your choice. Decisions are your Destiny. Choose your life in the manner it was meant to be lived and in what you have searched for-- peace - - only you can give yourself that. When you do, the good that is waiting to come into your life will appear. That affirmation I still hold for you.

And with all I have expressed in these posts both in reactive ego with typos as well as from the heart...I officially say peace out now to this thread.

You know where to find me -

Just stating that he used an internal email address is not posting proof. You're spewing a lot of drivel and providing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING IN THE WAY OF PROOF to back up your claims.

All this so you can get out of paying a measly $200. My guess would be that business isn't quite as well as you make it out to be. Which isn't surprising considering it was just a month or two you were melting down and business was shit.

Ban this bitch.

candyflip 03-23-2010 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by epitome (Post 16968950)
To her credit, she has Crohn's Disease too (well, she told me she had it after I told her I had it ... but I'm giving the benefit of the doubt and saying she does) and it's a hell of a disease.

So do you and so do I. But you don't see either of us begging for help and donations.

fris 03-23-2010 06:42 AM

i would never use her services, or recommend anyone as well because of this thread, seems like her services are all hogwash anyway.

ps donations for a break down are pathetic.

BlackCrayon 03-23-2010 06:47 AM

didn't she post here that she was so broke that she couldn't afford gifts for kid and someone on here bought a bunch of shit for them?


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