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Sly 03-23-2010 06:53 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 16969985)
So do you and so do I. But you don't see either of us begging for help and donations.
Christ you guys should start a club.

BlackCrayon 03-23-2010 06:54 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by nation-x (Post 16968414)
I am owed a few thousand by a particular person that also owes baddog... guess how many drama threads we have started... none. It's noone elses fucking business. Everytime I see this shit the person that started the thread (especially over a couple of hundred bucks) goes to the top of my idiot list. If you know that someone has been going through issues... why the fuck would you start a drama thread about them?
you don't complain, you don't see the money. simple as that in this business...

how many times should a person just 'forget' about a couple hundred bucks? 2 times? 5? 20? It adds up. No point in being a sucker for someone elses bullshit, its not your fault they have problems. Do you think that excuse would fly if you were a few hundred short of your car payment or mortgage? why should this be any different? if you run your business based on emotions you are going to be a mark for other people who think they can take advantage of you.

candyflip 03-23-2010 07:09 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sly (Post 16970018)
Christ you guys should start a club.
It's a digestive tract issue, not a terminal illness. :1orglaugh

I'd bet that there are a lot more of us here with it. I don't see any need to use it as an excuse. I can always take a laptop into the bathroom with me. :winkwink:

Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 16970005)
didn't she post here that she was so broke that she couldn't afford gifts for kid and someone on here bought a bunch of shit for them?
Yes...and now business is booming and better than ever. Her lawyer has this all under control.

ShellyCrash 03-23-2010 07:14 AM
Lori has always had a really stellar reputation. I've never worked with Lori, I have only met her briefly at shows but can say that people who have worked with her have relayed to me personally that they think nothing but the best of her and the services she provides. It's great to see her making a comeback, I wish nothing but the best for you, babe.

That being said, it's not right to accuse someone of theft and not show anything to back that up. Also, I really don't think he's using his illness as a business angle here. It's only being thrown into the mix to explain why an amount that some of us would shrug off has become so important to him, which is something that shouldn't have to be done. When you're owed money you are owed money, but as you can see by the sidebar comments between him and Dave sometimes knowing the dire straits of someone's situation puts their actions in a different light. I don't see it as being any different than when you discussed your illness months ago to let everyone know the severity of your personal situation.

If a job has been done someone should be paid for it, end of story. Two wrongs don't make a right and the "wrongs" that were committed on his part, if they did happen, weren't discovered for months and months after he should have been paid for the work he completed. Really what I'm getting reading through everything is someone did a job but only got paid for half the work, then was strung along for months about the other half of the payment only to find out you're not going to pay them because you suspect there may have been some shady shit going on.

If this situation does go to a lawyer, probably the first thing they are going to recommend you do is settle the remaining balance on the invoice for the work completed, otherwise you'll both be viewed as delinquent in the eyes of the judge / mediator. Also if this does go to court you will need more than showing he had access to an email account to prove he ilegally profited from the project and stole from your business. That won't hold up in a court of law and I will be surprised if it holds up in the court of GFY.

Quagmire 03-23-2010 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by ShellyCrash (Post 16970078)
Lori has always had a really stellar reputation. I've never worked with Lori, I have only met her briefly at shows but can say that people who have worked with her have relayed to me personally that they think nothing but the best of her and the services she provides. It's great to see her making a comeback, I wish nothing but the best for you, babe.

That being said, it's not right to accuse someone of theft and not show anything to back that up. Also, I really don't think he's using his illness as a business angle here. It's only being thrown into the mix to explain why an amount that some of us would shrug off has become so important to him, which is something that shouldn't have to be done. When you're owed money you are owed money, but as you can see by the sidebar comments between him and Dave sometimes knowing the dire straits of someone's situation puts their actions in a different light. I don't see it as being any different than when you discussed your illness months ago to let everyone know the severity of your personal situation.

If a job has been done someone should be paid for it, end of story. Two wrongs don't make a right and the "wrongs" that were committed on his part, if they did happen, weren't discovered for months and months after he should have been paid for the work he completed. Really what I'm getting reading through everything is someone did a job but only got paid for half the work, then was strung along for months about the other half of the payment only to find out you're not going to pay them because you suspect there may have been some shady shit going on.

If this situation does go to a lawyer, probably the first thing they are going to recommend you do is settle the remaining balance on the invoice for the work completed, otherwise you'll both be viewed as delinquent in the eyes of the judge / mediator. Also if this does go to court you will need more than showing he had access to an email account to prove he ilegally profited from the project and stole from your business. That won't hold up in a court of law and I will be surprised if it holds up in the court of GFY.
this pretty much covers it.

http://www.rock-hill.k12.sc.us/teach...n/goodcolr.gif

fris 03-23-2010 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 16970005)
didn't she post here that she was so broke that she couldn't afford gifts for kid and someone on here bought a bunch of shit for them?
yep, pathetic.

dyna mo 03-23-2010 08:01 AM
i seem to recall the last person around here who didn't pay ~$200 owed due to *principle* is now facing felony charges on an unrelated matter as a result.

Linguist 03-23-2010 08:06 AM
It's not my place to say whether the situation has been handled appropriately by Lori, but for all it's worth I've only dealt with her briefly, trusted her with my money and was pleasantly satisfied with my dealings with her. She's good people as far as I'm concerned.

selena 03-23-2010 08:08 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ShellyCrash (Post 16970078)
Lori has always had a really stellar reputation. I've never worked with Lori, I have only met her briefly at shows but can say that people who have worked with her have relayed to me personally that they think nothing but the best of her and the services she provides. It's great to see her making a comeback, I wish nothing but the best for you, babe.

That being said, it's not right to accuse someone of theft and not show anything to back that up. Also, I really don't think he's using his illness as a business angle here. It's only being thrown into the mix to explain why an amount that some of us would shrug off has become so important to him, which is something that shouldn't have to be done. When you're owed money you are owed money, but as you can see by the sidebar comments between him and Dave sometimes knowing the dire straits of someone's situation puts their actions in a different light. I don't see it as being any different than when you discussed your illness months ago to let everyone know the severity of your personal situation.

If a job has been done someone should be paid for it, end of story. Two wrongs don't make a right and the "wrongs" that were committed on his part, if they did happen, weren't discovered for months and months after he should have been paid for the work he completed. Really what I'm getting reading through everything is someone did a job but only got paid for half the work, then was strung along for months about the other half of the payment only to find out you're not going to pay them because you suspect there may have been some shady shit going on.

If this situation does go to a lawyer, probably the first thing they are going to recommend you do is settle the remaining balance on the invoice for the work completed, otherwise you'll both be viewed as delinquent in the eyes of the judge / mediator. Also if this does go to court you will need more than showing he had access to an email account to prove he ilegally profited from the project and stole from your business. That won't hold up in a court of law and I will be surprised if it holds up in the court of GFY.
You are starting to be my hero. :2 cents:

ladida 03-23-2010 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by The Adult Broker (Post 16969546)
Jesse - the rules of GFY are that I post evidence of something - using an email account intentional or not constitutes evidence you are utilizing what does not belong to you. I didn't shut you out for a reason - as stated in my previous posts, we had footwork to do so shutting you and another out would have hindered our efforts so I just let it ride. Not to mention that you owe me money from our other 'partnership' - you know the one - I did my footwork in other areas too. And that took time and therefore took time away from deals but I got the info I needed.

All other proof will be sent directly to all parties.

Oh and if I had a nickel for every time someone said something about me or slammed me, well then that would have me retired by now. I think many of us would be retired by now if one values their business by and gets paid out from drama and time wasting threads like this.

At the end of the day...the deals are rolling again and the dollars are flowing again for those that are rolling with TAB and The Mobile Broker. That is all that matters and that is my priority. TIME=MONEY.

I've already been through the tsunami and walked through fire so rumors, perception and gossip hold no court in my life anymore - have fun with them.

Maybe take a cue from that and get through your own issues and recurring storyline of being a victim and get power around your illness - I walk that same path with Chron's disease as you well know - I have for 34 years - and we had many conversations about that and I guided you in your personal life and took time to walk you through your pain - the very pain and hospital situations and surgeries that I have lived all these years. Difference is---I finally got power around it all, took back my life, stopped letting it control my life, but most of all, I NEVER played into so much as to become a victim and use it as a business angle. I mentioned in my wipe out thread in December...all these years in business NOBODY knew what I deal with health wise - because I still ROSE UP and performed and conducted business. I SHOWED UP in business while in a hospital bed, I SHOWED UP at shows straight out of a hospital bed, I returned to hospital beds right AFTER SHOWS.

I do what it takes to stand up, and when I couldn't get up - I revealed it once, not day after day after day, post after post after post.

And here I am again - I ROSE again. So perhaps consider who YOU ARE BEING that keeps you in this vicious cycle of drama - drama that is the very thing that feeds your illness to stay alive and strong. YOU CREATE YOUR ILLNESS - YOU FEED IT - Why don't you break your pattern - you see how it affects every area of your life, not just business. but every area, every relationship.

I was there for you on a level money can't buy. You can't buy someone's heart. And you were on my heart level at one time. And from the sounds of our conversations, which were many and more personal than even business, I paid forward to you in ways that have nothing to do with business - and I was happy to be there for you -even while I was going through my own losses and deaths but i still took time to walk and talk with you through this aspect of life - I've walked a long road and all that I learn and continue to learn I pay forward in hopes it helps someone else. That is how I live. But I have a limit when it crosses the line of compromising my own well being.

I can no longer feed into what you are creating.


This is my final direct conversation with you on this thread. If you care to call me and get in communication in a manner that is positive and non dramatic, I am open to receiving your call.

It is your choice. Decisions are your Destiny. Choose your life in the manner it was meant to be lived and in what you have searched for-- peace - - only you can give yourself that. When you do, the good that is waiting to come into your life will appear. That affirmation I still hold for you.

And with all I have expressed in these posts both in reactive ego with typos as well as from the heart...I officially say peace out now to this thread.

You know where to find me -
Lol what the fuck? I see a lot of "i rose" "i will survive" "better then ever" "positive thinking" bullshit that has nothing to do with the case in question. You have not posted 1 proof of what you said, and you should be banned for that unless you do so.

Oh and, the first time you see someone saying "Business is booming, i'm rising again", it's clear you're in the shitter.

Ban her.

candyflip 03-23-2010 08:16 AM
Shelly pretty much laid it all out in black and white.

Pay what is owed.

Quagmire 03-23-2010 08:19 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 16970227)
i seem to recall the last person around here who didn't pay ~$200 owed due to *principle* is now facing felony charges on an unrelated matter as a result.
http://www.fucksakes.net/chops/non-compete.gif

dyna mo 03-23-2010 08:23 AM
you haters should be looking to the adult broker for inispiration.

at a time when the entire industry is reeling from lower revenues, loss of traffic, etc., she not only picked herself up from rock bottom, but has risen to the top like a phoenix and her business is so good she barely has time to reply to this due to all day conference calls and she even has a lawyer to handle ~$200 issues such as this.


congrats the adult borker, fuck the haterZ!

Agent 488 03-23-2010 08:29 AM
once a thread has deteriorated into an essay writing contest i'm outta herre ...

ShellyCrash 03-23-2010 08:30 AM
Aw shucks, you guys are making me blush :)

Agent 488 03-23-2010 08:32 AM
though if your life has going to a point where if you are in trouble you don't turn to friends/family irl but some anonymous pixels on a message board your have some serious soul searching to do.

marketsmart 03-23-2010 08:59 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 16970296)
you haters should be looking to the adult broker for inispiration.

at a time when the entire industry is reeling from lower revenues, loss of traffic, etc., she not only picked herself up from rock bottom, but has risen to the top like a phoenix and her business is so good she barely has time to reply to this due to all day conference calls and she even has a lawyer to handle ~$200 issues such as this.


congrats the adult borker, fuck the haterZ!



since she's doing so well now, maybe she can pay tony back for the presents he bought her kids for christmas... :2 cents:









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kristin 03-23-2010 09:01 AM
So what's the official rule on banning when accusing someone of something?

Don't they have to post proof?

Jdoughs 03-23-2010 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by kristin (Post 16970445)
So what's the official rule on banning when accusing someone of something?

Don't they have to post proof?
Yeah and from what I can tell we have 2 ladies needing to post some. (Immortal/TAD)

Agent 488 03-23-2010 09:05 AM
why so many people with Chrons?

kristin 03-23-2010 09:07 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ladida (Post 16970270)

Oh and, the first time you see someone saying "Business is booming, i'm rising again", it's clear you're in the shitter.
I always think similar things. Like when someone says "you can deal with my lawyer" or something along those lines ... they don't have a lawyer.

I know I've done it and it sounds silly.

epitome 03-23-2010 09:10 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 16970459)
why so many people with Chrons?
Personally, I think processed foods, smog/environment, etc. has something to do with it.

Far-L 03-23-2010 09:16 AM
Broker me a deal with that attorney that will take on cases with $200 at stake... I want to go after that kid that stole my lunch money back in the third grade... with interest and damages I figure that $5 must be worth about a $175 by now! :1orglaugh

epitome 03-23-2010 09:16 AM
I am also no responding to Lori anymore.

I realized she was off her rocker when she was begging for donations here to give her daughter a Christmas when she is such a proud jew. In fact, one of the reasons she gave me for increasingly not being around at the end was that she was celebrating the jewish holidays (all the one's that fall in October).

Wasn't going to bring the kid into the thread except she likes to use the kid as a pawn (notice how she rarely mentions a kid unless things are bad and she needs sympathy).

I'm reviewing things that were put into my lap last night (all public information it turns out) and it seems to be a recurring theme.

candyflip 03-23-2010 09:26 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 16970459)
why so many people with Chrons?
For me, it's all about my diet. If choose to eat recklessly I pay for it and it's not pretty.

I can really mess up a toilet bowl. If this thread hits 12 pages, I'll post pics. :1orglaugh

ShellyCrash 03-23-2010 09:27 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 16970459)
why so many people with Chrons?
My best friend was diagnosed with it when she was little. Her older sister was just diagnosed with it last year. The docs they have seen think it's hereditary / genetic and also said the thing that kept the older sister's crohns at bay for so many years was the fact that she smoked. I guess smoking, while it can't roll the progressment of Crohns back can in people in early stages put it in statis. Weird way that smoking in her case benefited her health. She quit smoking and the crohns came out :(


I didn't have Crohns, my issues were caused by a antibiotic happy dr that perscribed me too many powerful antibiotics in too short a period of time which wound up throwing off my gi tract in a very bad way. Pretty much it was like my whole digestive tract was sick. I threw up, alot. And if I didn't throw a meal up it wasn't long before I was seeing it again the other way :Oh crap. On the brightside I have a chance of someday making a full recovery while my friends with Crohns will have to manage and fight flares forever.

I like the idea of having a club though :1orglaugh It can be some rough shit to go through. If anyone ever wants to vent, seriously, ICQ me anytime. When I was in the thick of it I withdrew, I didn't want to talk to anyone about it, I kinda shut out and shut down. I tried my best to cover it up as best I could and didnt want people to see how weak I was or let them know how serious things got. I think that was a mistake, I missed out on alot of support during the time in my life when I needed it the most. :2 cents:

epitome 03-23-2010 09:36 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Adult Broker (Post 16969495)
Obviously, we have a lot more to the equation but I'm leaving that to my attorney unless someone cares to step up and clear up - It's not as scary as it may appear, I lived it. And I am much nicer when going that route. :upsidedow
I do have to respond to one more thing...actually saw this last night and meant to respond.

So we've gone from me supposedly causing you irreparable harm and damage to me just being able to admit to something that didn't happen, apologize to you, don't go after my $205 and you drop everything?

That is the most crafty way I've ever seen someone try to get out of a debt...

Far-L 03-23-2010 09:37 AM
Homegrown Video is to amateur porn as the intestine is to digestion
 
From a literary standpoint... this thread is so genius... Crohns as a metaphor for debt. So deep I might have to go read some Joyce or something.:thumbsup

Agent 488 03-23-2010 09:38 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 16970541)
For me, it's all about my diet. If choose to eat recklessly I pay for it and it's not pretty.

I can really mess up a toilet bowl. If this thread hits 12 pages, I'll post pics. :1orglaugh
yeah from people i know it's the same, although new a few with more serious forms.

epitome 03-23-2010 09:46 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Adult Broker (Post 16969495)
Obviously, we have a lot more to the equation but I'm leaving that to my attorney unless someone cares to step up and clear up - It's not as scary as it may appear, I lived it. And I am much nicer when going that route. :upsidedow
I do have to respond to one more thing...actually saw this last night and meant to respond.

So we've gone from me supposedly causing you irreparable harm and damage to me just being able to admit to something that didn't happen, apologize to you, don't go after my $205 and you drop everything?

That is the most crafty way I've ever seen someone try to get out of a debt...

EDIT: Sorry for the double post...the GFY database went down.

jimmy-3-way 03-23-2010 09:53 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by kristin (Post 16970445)
So what's the official rule on banning when accusing someone of something?

Don't they have to post proof?
Post proof of this rule or be banned!!

I'm calling my lawyer.

kristin 03-23-2010 10:08 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jimmy-3-way (Post 16970604)
Post proof of this rule or be banned!!

I'm calling my lawyer.
Hehe, good one. =)

grumpy 03-23-2010 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by CyberAge-Dave (Post 16968027)
If you are hurting for $205.00 and you are in the Adult Biz, something is wrong.
Just write if off, no need to bring it to the boards.
always bring it to the boards even when its a $205

candyflip 03-23-2010 11:39 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 16970579)
yeah from people i know it's the same, although new a few with more serious forms.
I won't downplay the seriousness of it. It's not fun. But it's not the end of the world by any means.

Deej 03-23-2010 12:18 PM
Well so far, One side of this story is full of holes...

No proof yet either.

Lori, the rules of GFY DO NOT state that you have to post proof of 'something' ... it quite clearly states that you have to post proof of YOUR ACCUSATIONS... not just 'something'... which you have NOT done.

let me paste this just in case you havent actually read the rules.

Quote:
False accusations against a person or company. We all want to know what companies and individuals have done you wrong. Just make sure you back any claims you make up with solid proof. If you plan on calling someone a scammer, liar, cheat, or anything else, have your proof in order and post it with your claim. False accusations will be grounds for immediate banning.
You called him a scammer and said he backhandedly switched affiliate codes to his own and claimed that he stole revenues from you.

Back that up with actual proof, recant and apologize (along with paying him) or face the penalties of your actions.

I know youre respected around here... but there are strict rules now that have to be followed by all.

Perhaps you should have chose your initial words better? Well that chance is gone... you have 3 options...

I do hope rules apply to everyone... seems they have since the new regime so far...

Agent 488 03-23-2010 12:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 16971005)
I won't downplay the seriousness of it. It's not fun. But it's not the end of the world by any means.
good luck man. looks like you rose above it.

epitome 03-23-2010 12:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by beemk (Post 16968896)
has anyone actually hired the adult broker and see a decent roi?
Please define ROI.

http://www.ambushinterview.com/14/02.jpg

My apologies in advance to innocent bystanders in the pic. This was done purely for illustrative purposes only.

BTW, if I don't get paid, this picture will end up being an illustrative point for other things that were passed along to me. 2004 ends up being a key year with lots of questions about character and integrity.

TAB knows what I am talking about. I was kind enough to forward to her by email what I know. Of course, she didn't reply, but we expected that, didn't we? I sent my email to her shortly after she posted that I knew where to find her.

It's all public information, just took a few people piecing it all together.

Dirty D. v2.0? Time will tell... :winkwink:

marketsmart 03-23-2010 12:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by epitome (Post 16971268)
Please define ROI.

http://www.ambushinterview.com/14/02.jpg

My apologies in advance to innocent bystanders in the pic. This was done purely for illustrative purposes only.

BTW, if I don't get paid, this picture will end up being an illustrative point for other things that were passed along to me. 2004 ends up being a key year with lots of questions about character and integrity.

TAB knows what I am talking about. I was kind enough to forward to her by email what I know. Of course, she didn't reply, but we expected that, didn't we? I sent my email to her shortly after she posted that I knew where to find her.

It's all public information, just took a few people piecing it all together.

Dirty D. v2.0? Time will tell... :winkwink:



fuck waiting.. spill it now.. she has gone into invisible mode and you wont be hearing from her again...

dole that dirt out... :thumbsup






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Agent 488 03-23-2010 12:39 PM
i'd hit it.

Quote:
Originally Posted by epitome (Post 16971268)
Please define ROI.

http://www.ambushinterview.com/14/02.jpg

My apologies in advance to innocent bystanders in the pic. This was done purely for illustrative purposes only.

BTW, if I don't get paid, this picture will end up being an illustrative point for other things that were passed along to me. 2004 ends up being a key year with lots of questions about character and integrity.

TAB knows what I am talking about. I was kind enough to forward to her by email what I know. Of course, she didn't reply, but we expected that, didn't we? I sent my email to her shortly after she posted that I knew where to find her.

It's all public information, just took a few people piecing it all together.

Dirty D. v2.0? Time will tell... :winkwink:

Far-L 03-23-2010 12:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by epitome (Post 16971268)
Please define ROI.

http://www.ambushinterview.com/14/02.jpg

My apologies in advance to innocent bystanders in the pic. This was done purely for illustrative purposes only.

BTW, if I don't get paid, this picture will end up being an illustrative point for other things that were passed along to me. 2004 ends up being a key year with lots of questions about character and integrity.

TAB knows what I am talking about. I was kind enough to forward to her by email what I know. Of course, she didn't reply, but we expected that, didn't we? I sent my email to her shortly after she posted that I knew where to find her.

It's all public information, just took a few people piecing it all together.

Dirty D. v2.0? Time will tell... :winkwink:
Unless you have a picture of her doing lines, sorry, but dancing in a room of webmasters is - well, maybe something to be ashamed of - but definitely nothing to feel guilty about...


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