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The Demon 03-23-2010 08:38 PM
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The number one reason for this fucked up economy is the war in Iraq. That is a hard fix. Obama has done more to change the future of America than most presidents in history. All in just over a year. That is amazing. That is real power. You guys can all hold your breath until you turn blue, but this man is an historical game changer whether you like it or not. All you might do is buy a Corvette. This guy goes down in history.
Classic. Not sure how anyone can be dumber than this guy at this point. Thanks for playing weekly :)

weekly 03-23-2010 08:47 PM
The big headline in the LA times is about a gay Irish hurling star. This health care debate is over. I love it.

The Demon 03-23-2010 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by weekly (Post 16972722)
The big headline in the LA times is about a gay Irish hurling star. This health care debate is over. I love it.
You mean other than 14 state legislatures suing against the constitutionality of it?

You have GOT to love how Weekly lives in reality, this little retarded kid is priceless.

CosmicTang 03-23-2010 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 16972693)
Ah yes, you attempted to debate using pure bullshit. When your arguments were destroyed, you fell in line with the rest of the laughing stock of Gfy like Weekly.
http://www.perpetualocean.com/tether...e/ducksign.jpg

The Demon 03-23-2010 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by CosmicTang (Post 16972808)
^Who's a good little tool? I'll give you a year of reading before you can come back and debate properly..

weekly 03-23-2010 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by CosmicTang (Post 16972808)
OMG...that is funny.

CosmicTang 03-23-2010 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by weekly (Post 16972694)
I think this guy is finished. No game.
No, he doesn't. His game is about yelling louder than whoever he's 'debating' and calling them stupid, claiming they use no facts, more name calling, claiming they know nothing, and then topping it off with....more name calling.

In fact, it's projection. He's putting exactly what he does on others and then is so oblivious to it he believes himself not only right, but superior. Sad and funny at the same time.

Now to be fair, you're quite the gem yourself. You don't argue or debate rationally. The Iraq war bankrupting the country (or whatever statement it was)? I had to roll my eyes at that too. It's one thing to be anti-war, we all should, but c'mon. Much like ol' Demon you let your ideology get in the way of your reason. You're no less partisan.

I would hope you both could do better.

The Demon 03-23-2010 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by CosmicTang (Post 16972826)
No, he doesn't. His game is about yelling louder than whoever he's 'debating' and calling them stupid, claiming they use no facts, more name calling, claiming they know nothing, and then topping it off with....more name calling.

In fact, it's projection. He's putting exactly what he does on others and then is so oblivious to it he believes himself not only right, but superior. Sad and funny at the same time.
What's sad and funny is you getting your ass kicked because you can't follow a debate logically or use facts. The name calling is completely warranted, not like you'd "get it". Carry on please;)

CosmicTang 03-23-2010 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 16972880)
What's sad and funny is you getting your ass kicked because you can't follow a debate logically or use facts. The name calling is completely warranted, not like you'd "get it". Carry on please;)
http://www.perpetualocean.com/tether...e/ducksign.jpg

The Demon 03-23-2010 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by CosmicTang (Post 16972884)
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^Who's a good little tool? I'll give you a year of reading before you can come back and debate properly..
:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup :) :) :)

weekly 03-23-2010 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by CosmicTang (Post 16972826)
No, he doesn't. His game is about yelling louder than whoever he's 'debating' and calling them stupid, claiming they use no facts, more name calling, claiming they know nothing, and then topping it off with....more name calling.

In fact, it's projection. He's putting exactly what he does on others and then is so oblivious to it he believes himself not only right, but superior. Sad and funny at the same time.

Now to be fair, you're quite the gem yourself. You don't argue or debate rationally. The Iraq war bankrupting the country (or whatever statement it was)? I had to roll my eyes at that too. It's one thing to be anti-war, we all should, but c'mon. Much like ol' Demon you let your ideology get in the way of your reason. You're no less partisan.

I would hope you both could do better.
To be fair, I never said it bankrupted the country. I have said a lot of things and perhaps I slipped. Maybe you could quote me on that. I do remember saying that the cost of the Iraqi war could pay for this entire health care bill. Do you disagree with that? Also, ideology has nothing to do with it. It was and is a useless war fought for no reason. There never was any wmd. You can argue forever about the tyrannical Baathist regime. But there are much worse. So politics aside, there are not many that agree that this war is useful.
Come back.

edit: Everyone is partisan. That has no impact on what is right and what is wrong.

nation-x 03-24-2010 05:00 AM
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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 16972277)
Where did you come up with that?
I was off by 2 points... it's 24% rather than 26%... hoever, 57% think Obama is a Muslim which is pretty much just as wacky.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/dailybeast/2...carynewgoppoll

The Demon 03-24-2010 06:11 AM
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Originally Posted by weekly (Post 16972913)
To be fair, I never said it bankrupted the country. I have said a lot of things and perhaps I slipped. Maybe you could quote me on that. I do remember saying that the cost of the Iraqi war could pay for this entire health care bill. Do you disagree with that? Also, ideology has nothing to do with it. It was and is a useless war fought for no reason. There never was any wmd. You can argue forever about the tyrannical Baathist regime. But there are much worse. So politics aside, there are not many that agree that this war is useful.
Come back.

edit: Everyone is partisan. That has no impact on what is right and what is wrong.
There's slipping and there's making shit up to rationalize your version of reality, which you do 100% of the time. But I'm glad you quickly changed your stance in that thread with hilarious misdirection. Nobody claimed the war was good or useful, nice try though troll :)

CosmicTang 03-24-2010 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by weekly (Post 16972913)
To be fair, I never said it bankrupted the country. I have said a lot of things and perhaps I slipped. Maybe you could quote me on that. I do remember saying that the cost of the Iraqi war could pay for this entire health care bill. Do you disagree with that? Also, ideology has nothing to do with it. It was and is a useless war fought for no reason. There never was any wmd. You can argue forever about the tyrannical Baathist regime. But there are much worse. So politics aside, there are not many that agree that this war is useful.
Come back.

edit: Everyone is partisan. That has no impact on what is right and what is wrong.
Here is what you said:
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The number one reason for this fucked up economy is the war in Iraq. That is a hard fix. Obama has done more to change the future of America than most presidents in history. All in just over a year. That is amazing. That is real power. You guys can all hold your breath until you turn blue, but this man is an historical game changer whether you like it or not. All you might do is buy a Corvette. This guy goes down in history.
This economy was headed off the tracks long before the war in Iraq. Reagan, Clinton and Bush I all contributed. The S&L scandal at the end of the 80's was a harbinger of things to come.

Bush II certainly didn't help anything, and by making sure he propped up the economy to put off the collapse as long as he could so it wouldn't happen on his watch he really added to the problem. Neither Bush nor Obama have handled the bailouts and the recovery well at all. They're cherry picking and playing favorites. Why do you think Goldman Sachs, AIG and other big banks were allowed to keep bonuses and call their own shots while GM was brought to their knees and forced to declare Chapter 11? GM actually MAKES something and employs a lot of people up and down the line. It's all a metric fuck ton of bullshit.

As for the rest, I would MUCH rather spend money on health care than war. The war is a big lie, like most of them are. They lied about every fucking reason they invaded.

I'm not pointing out your ideology in connection with the war. War is horrible and shouldn't be tolerated no matter what your politics. I'm referring to your blind backing of health care reform bills and president Obama. The sooner people realize Obama serves the same masters on Wall St. that Bush did and the bill is a way to placate the masses while fleecing the nation the sooner we can get to the real business at hand which should be throwing them all out on their asses and reforming our government from the bottom up. Obama is taking marching orders just like Bush did. The country was about to explode the way it was going for 8 years, so they get Obama in there and lull everyone to sleep for a bit longer.

And not everyone is partisan. Some people are able to remain independent and support and vote on issues and candidates regardless of party affiliations.

CE_Rashaan 03-24-2010 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by MK Ultra (Post 16970860)
is it Democracy when a bill that 59% of Americans opposed gets rammed down our throats?

Better learn how to start bowing to your masters in Washington :2 cents:
hilarious :1orglaugh. What is that supposed to mean? Why are so many people trying to be political micro-managers? Isnt that why we vote for these people so they can go to Washington do the research and make the decisions we are entrusting them to make. How can anything get done if politicians have to check CNN, FOX or some blog for "public opinions" everyday before they decide whats best for their constituents?

Do constituents always know whats best for there district. NO! if they did we wouldnt need government we could all just gather up in town halls and yell until 59% of us are left standing then we can do what those people say.

Politicians are supposed to make hard decisions that maybe contrary to what the constituents think or know will better benefit their district as a WHOLE. Thats what they are paid to do. Then every 2 or 4 years we look at what they ACCOMPLISHED not what they talked or argued about and if you dont like the end result. Vote someone else in.

You think FDR would have decided to join the war and save the world from the nazis if he listened to what 59% of Americans wanted?

weekly 03-24-2010 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by CosmicTang (Post 16975009)
Here is what you said:

This economy was headed off the tracks long before the war in Iraq. Reagan, Clinton and Bush I all contributed. The S&L scandal at the end of the 80's was a harbinger of things to come.

Bush II certainly didn't help anything, and by making sure he propped up the economy to put off the collapse as long as he could so it wouldn't happen on his watch he really added to the problem. Neither Bush nor Obama have handled the bailouts and the recovery well at all. They're cherry picking and playing favorites. Why do you think Goldman Sachs, AIG and other big banks were allowed to keep bonuses and call their own shots while GM was brought to their knees and forced to declare Chapter 11? GM actually MAKES something and employs a lot of people up and down the line. It's all a metric fuck ton of bullshit.

As for the rest, I would MUCH rather spend money on health care than war. The war is a big lie, like most of them are. They lied about every fucking reason they invaded.

I'm not pointing out your ideology in connection with the war. War is horrible and shouldn't be tolerated no matter what your politics. I'm referring to your blind backing of health care reform bills and president Obama. The sooner people realize Obama serves the same masters on Wall St. that Bush did and the bill is a way to placate the masses while fleecing the nation the sooner we can get to the real business at hand which should be throwing them all out on their asses and reforming our government from the bottom up. Obama is taking marching orders just like Bush did. The country was about to explode the way it was going for 8 years, so they get Obama in there and lull everyone to sleep for a bit longer.

And not everyone is partisan. Some people are able to remain independent and support and vote on issues and candidates regardless of party affiliations.
Bankrupt is a harsh word that I obviously never used. I still stand by the fact that you can't spend billions of dollars on a useless war that has no r.o.i. and not have it fuck up your economy.
As for who Obama serves? It is way too early to judge. A year and a couple of months is not the character of the administration yet. This is the time to piss people off. The let the redneck whippos fire off their broadsides till the majority gets sick of their venom. There will be more swiftboating I am sure, but enough already. The last year of his administration is the time you will know how well this is all working. Its classic Sun Tsu.

The Demon 03-24-2010 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by CosmicTang (Post 16975009)
Here is what you said:

This economy was headed off the tracks long before the war in Iraq. Reagan, Clinton and Bush I all contributed. The S&L scandal at the end of the 80's was a harbinger of things to come.

Bush II certainly didn't help anything, and by making sure he propped up the economy to put off the collapse as long as he could so it wouldn't happen on his watch he really added to the problem. Neither Bush nor Obama have handled the bailouts and the recovery well at all. They're cherry picking and playing favorites. Why do you think Goldman Sachs, AIG and other big banks were allowed to keep bonuses and call their own shots while GM was brought to their knees and forced to declare Chapter 11? GM actually MAKES something and employs a lot of people up and down the line. It's all a metric fuck ton of bullshit.

As for the rest, I would MUCH rather spend money on health care than war. The war is a big lie, like most of them are. They lied about every fucking reason they invaded.

I'm not pointing out your ideology in connection with the war. War is horrible and shouldn't be tolerated no matter what your politics. I'm referring to your blind backing of health care reform bills and president Obama. The sooner people realize Obama serves the same masters on Wall St. that Bush did and the bill is a way to placate the masses while fleecing the nation the sooner we can get to the real business at hand which should be throwing them all out on their asses and reforming our government from the bottom up. Obama is taking marching orders just like Bush did. The country was about to explode the way it was going for 8 years, so they get Obama in there and lull everyone to sleep for a bit longer.

And not everyone is partisan. Some people are able to remain independent and support and vote on issues and candidates regardless of party affiliations.
Your complete lack of debating abilities aside, this was a rather sound post.

CosmicTang 03-24-2010 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 16975216)
Your complete lack of debating abilities aside, this was a rather sound post.
Your complete lack of awareness aside, thanks.

The Demon 03-24-2010 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by weekly (Post 16975056)
Bankrupt is a harsh word that I obviously never used. I still stand by the fact that you can't spend billions of dollars on a useless war that has no r.o.i. and not have it fuck up your economy.
Lucky for us, we don't take you seriously and we know you don't know anything about economics.
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As for who Obama serves? It is way too early to judge. A year and a couple of months is not the character of the administration yet. This is the time to piss people off. The let the redneck whippos fire off their broadsides till the majority gets sick of their venom. There will be more swiftboating I am sure, but enough already. The last year of his administration is the time you will know how well this is all working. Its classic Sun Tsu.
Wow.. What an idiot.

The Demon 03-24-2010 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by CosmicTang (Post 16975220)
Your complete lack of awareness aside, thanks.
My "awareness" would be lacking had I not called out every one of your "points" your previous argument. But thanks for looking out, baby.

CosmicTang 03-24-2010 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 16975231)
My "awareness" would be lacking had I not called out every one of your "points" your previous argument. But thanks for looking out, baby.
Your lack of awareness shows in that your 'debating' skills consist of ad hominems, finger pointing, deflection, bloviating, and declaring victory despite not presenting any facts other than your opinion and that you're right and someone else is wrong.

You didn't call out or refute any points with anything of substance but rather your opinions or name calling. Your skills are pedestrian at best. And I apologize to pedestrians.

The Demon 03-24-2010 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by CosmicTang (Post 16975310)
Your lack of awareness shows in that your 'debating' skills consist of ad hominems, finger pointing, deflection, bloviating, and declaring victory despite not presenting any facts other than your opinion and that you're right and someone else is wrong.
Kinda funny, this is pretty much exactly what I accused you of.. Talk about projection. Btw, it's obvious you have no idea what an "ad hominem" is. You just think it's a personal attack, how simple rofl. And there was nothing to deflect, as my response was a rebuttal to you. I appreciate you using your script of "projection" but it has no place in reality.

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You didn't call out or refute any points with anything of substance but rather your opinions or name calling. Your skills are pedestrian at best. And I apologize to pedestrians.
I have real sympathy for you. I would think someone with an average IQ such as yourself would have the ability to live in reality and admit when he got his ass kicked. It's quite a shame. Like I said, I'll give you a year to read books, and maybe you'll get on my level. Until then, continue lying to yourself. :thumbsup

CosmicTang 03-24-2010 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 16975369)
Kinda funny, this is pretty much exactly what I accused you of.. Talk about projection. Btw, it's obvious you have no idea what an "ad hominem" is. You just think it's a personal attack, how simple rofl. And there was nothing to deflect, as my response was a rebuttal to you. I appreciate you using your script of "projection" but it has no place in reality.



I have real sympathy for you. I would think someone with an average IQ such as yourself would have the ability to live in reality and admit when he got his ass kicked. It's quite a shame. Like I said, I'll give you a year to read books, and maybe you'll get on my level. Until then, continue lying to yourself. :thumbsup

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

You have a future in comedy if you decide to go that route. The world needs more clowns.

_Richard_ 03-24-2010 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by CosmicTang (Post 16975375)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

You have a future in comedy if you decide to go that route. The world needs more clowns.
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

The Demon 03-24-2010 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by CosmicTang (Post 16975375)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

You have a future in comedy if you decide to go that route. The world needs more clowns.
That's possible, but you've just proven that GFY is oversatured with clowns :) I definitely think your posts are among the funniest on this forum, keep it up:) One day people will take you seriously.

CosmicTang 03-24-2010 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 16975402)
That's possible, but you've just proven that GFY is oversatured with clowns :) I definitely think your posts are among the funniest on this forum, keep it up:) One day people will take you seriously.
People do. You're just predisposed to not taking anyone seriously, except yourself.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3115/...8c6b79.jpg?v=0

You must be one of those crying-on-the-inside clowns.

The Demon 03-24-2010 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by CosmicTang (Post 16975438)
People do. You're just predisposed to not taking anyone seriously, except yourself.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3115/...8c6b79.jpg?v=0

You must be one of those crying-on-the-inside clowns.
I WOULD ask you to prove this assertion but since you're incapable of proving anything you type, I'll just laugh this off, like I do with all of your posts. :)

CosmicTang 03-24-2010 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 16975505)
I WOULD ask you to prove this assertion but since you're incapable of proving anything you type, I'll just laugh this off, like I do with all of your posts. :)
Got all the proof I need in all your posts. Try counting up the number of times you put down someone else to build yourself up. Or any variant thereof.

It's impressive. You're really oblivious to it.

I'm sure somewhere there's a circus that would be happy to have you.

will76 03-24-2010 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by nation-x (Post 16972128)
Seriously, how can you rebut one "poll" with another "poll". Go find 100 polls and you will get 100 different results. No one can say " 59%" or whatever agree or disagree with something. All you can do is add them all up and then come to conclusions like "most people" or "majority of people" etc... The only results that are accurate are from the ones were people cast a ballet and their votes are tallied up, not opinion polls were the results and context of the questions are suspect at best depending on the poll givers personal views.

The Demon 03-24-2010 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by CosmicTang (Post 16975517)
Got all the proof I need in all your posts. Try counting up the number of times you put down someone else to build yourself up. Or any variant thereof.

It's impressive. You're really oblivious to it.

I'm sure somewhere there's a circus that would be happy to have you.
I rest my case. No wonder you're not taken seriously :)

The Demon 03-24-2010 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by will76 (Post 16975523)
Seriously, how can you rebut one "poll" with another "poll". Go find 100 polls and you will get 100 different results. No one can say " 59%" or whatever agree or disagree with something. All you can do is add them all up and then come to conclusions like "most people" or "majority of people" etc... The only results that are accurate are from the ones were people cast a ballet and their votes are tallied up, not opinion polls were the results and context of the questions are suspect at best depending on the poll givers personal views.
Polls are only valid when the Democrats seem to have the upper hand. If it's the other way around, then the poll is inaccurate and a result of "fear mongering".

CosmicTang 03-24-2010 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 16975574)
I rest my case. No wonder you're not taken seriously :)
By whom, you? Like I'm worried about not getting respect from someone who hides behind a board nick. Clown.

CosmicTang 03-24-2010 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by will76 (Post 16975523)
Seriously, how can you rebut one "poll" with another "poll". Go find 100 polls and you will get 100 different results. No one can say " 59%" or whatever agree or disagree with something. All you can do is add them all up and then come to conclusions like "most people" or "majority of people" etc... The only results that are accurate are from the ones were people cast a ballet and their votes are tallied up, not opinion polls were the results and context of the questions are suspect at best depending on the poll givers personal views.
Dude. Lies, damn lies and statistics. And any poll that's =/- >3% is statistically irrelevant anyway.

The Demon 03-24-2010 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by CosmicTang (Post 16975585)
By whom, you? Like I'm worried about not getting respect from someone who hides behind a board nick. Clown.
:::Yawn:::

will76 03-24-2010 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 16972706)
Classic. Not sure how anyone can be dumber than this guy at this point. Thanks for playing weekly :)
The number one reason why we are in so much debt is because of oil/war in iraq.

Oil = old technology, dinosaur (literally lol)

We went to war with Iraq because of our dependency on OIL.

The terrorist are funded from oil money, money from ALL of us.

If it wasn't for oil, the richest people in the middle east would be living in a wooden shack opposed to a sand hunt. There would be 99% LESS money in the middle east if not for oil. That money makes it way back to terrorist and funds them to attack us.

Does it make sense to send money to our enemies so they can have weapons and means to fight us, so we can inturn then spend more money to defend ourselves from them?

A smarter solution is to attack them financially and take their means to hurt us away.

Make oil worthless and the most harm the terrorist can do is throw rocks out our embassy.

Make oil worthless by innovating and developing alternative sources of energy.

Produce alternative sources of energy and sell to the rest of the world = fix economy, trade deficit, and make the dollar a lot stronger.

A world with out oil = no middle east terrorist (save billions fighting and protecting ourselves from them) + make billions from new technology and alternative sources of energy we sell to the rest of the world.

So why did Bush, who's family made money in the oil business and was heavily connected with oil decide to go the route he did oppose to the common sense I listed above ? If Bush would have spent those trillions on iraq into pushing hard for us to develop alternative sources of energy, the war would be over with because the terrorist would have no money to fight us.

Bush fucked it up bad. But hey Clinton didn't exactly push hard for alternative sources of energy either.


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