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Nysus 03-24-2010 11:35 AM

Seems like a nice way to go about it.

faxxaff 03-24-2010 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sponsorpimp (Post 16974113)
Are the Trade marks World Wide or simply implemented for the USA as you may well know you can trade mark country by country or world wide...Just a thought :winkwink:

That doesn't really matter.

Using a brand name that is in use by a known party is pretty foolish - first of all because most people simply abuse it by promoting competitors ..... This has to be punished and most jurisdictions respect this without the need of legal formalities.

Protect your brands and drive fraudulent affs out of the market.

dig420 03-24-2010 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roald (Post 16973774)
nothing wrong with protecting your brand :2 cents:

I agree. I'm going after anyone with 'cuckold' or 'slut' or 'wife' or 'interracial' in their domain name. Get my atty on the line :1orglaugh

PSD 03-24-2010 02:12 PM

I had a bad experience with them. My revshare account was suspended without notice for what I later find out was due to having too good a ratios which they claimed were "completely and utterly impossible" to achieve and thus they assumed I must be doing something suspicious.

After finding this out, I tried to explain it was because I was linking directly to the join page for much of my traffic and as soon as I started doing this apparently NATS did not count those hits or severely undercounted them causing the high ratios. Not saying it was NATS fault as I may have linked to the page improperly even though sales were being recorded.

After telling them this my emails were no longer replied to. I mean if they did not want me to link directly to the join page fine, I would have just changed my links, but the way this was handled was horrible. Anyway, just wanted to vent as although this happened awhile ago I am always reminded of my experience whenever I see Naughty America mentioned.

Dennis69 03-24-2010 02:18 PM

It's easy to tell when a program is hurting or greedy!!

Sure protecting your brand name is fine but mass emails are not the way to do it :disgust

BillyHoe 03-24-2010 02:19 PM

lol good luck on winning a case on a typo.

RycEric 03-24-2010 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dennis69 (Post 16974997)
It's easy to tell when a program is hurting or greedy!!

Sure protecting your brand name is fine but mass emails are not the way to do it :disgust

Speaking of which... you better start removing the unauthorized Shauna on your site.
http://www.titsandnippleslips.com/to...Sex-Tape02.jpg

RycEric 03-24-2010 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RycEric (Post 16975003)
Speaking of which... you better start removing the unauthorized Shauna on your site.
http://www.titsandnippleslips.com/to...Sex-Tape02.jpg

Thanks Dennis.

Dennis69 03-24-2010 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RycEric (Post 16975139)
Thanks Dennis.

Thought I had it all removed... must of missed the thumbs!

TheDA 03-24-2010 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RycEric (Post 16975139)
Thanks Dennis.

Good god. I'd heard you were good with quick results but I didn't realise just how much so :)

georgeyw 03-24-2010 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roald (Post 16973774)
nothing wrong with protecting your brand :2 cents:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap (Post 16973782)
Quoted for the truth :thumbsup

I agree, however the brand was helped along by all the affiliates :2 cents:

What's the use in going after an affiliate who is promoting the brand? Shooting oneself in the foot is never a productive move :2 cents:

u-Bob 03-24-2010 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by georgeyw (Post 16975565)
What's the use in going after an affiliate who is promoting the brand? Shooting oneself in the foot is never a productive move :2 cents:

q f t

maxjohan 03-24-2010 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by faxxaff (Post 16974923)
drive fraudulent affs out of the market.

They never stated anything about this. Like a professional company had done. I mean, most times not seen in the adult side.

Dear affiliate,

We have been slammed by crooked affiliates, please bear with me that we have
no...intentions to.....use this as a scarecrow but we have to protect our brand


Their letter was almost 1/10 as good as my 2.minute try.

bdld 03-24-2010 08:07 PM

i'm in the process of removing links, i had been promoting them for 7 years now

Fat Panda 03-24-2010 08:22 PM

fuck naughty america

Fat Panda 03-24-2010 08:24 PM

their time would b much better spent removing all their content from every tube on the planet....

Fat Panda 03-24-2010 08:25 PM

my links are coming down too

LiveDose 03-24-2010 08:40 PM

Obnoxious. Stop being fucking lazy and go directly after the affiliates violating this policy instead of hitting all your affiliates with this type of email.

LiveDose 03-24-2010 08:43 PM

There was another annoying email sent recently from them that seemed like a personal attack as well but turned out to be a general email to all affiliates. Strike two, you're out.

andrej_NDC 03-25-2010 01:41 AM

They don't have a case. The term is just too common. I know, because they once tried it on my and lost the arbitration.

Robocrop 03-25-2010 02:28 AM

So Naughty america is gonna sue everyone? yea I can see that happen.... :1orglaugh

NetHorse 03-25-2010 02:47 AM

Well it's not as bad as the idiot trying to sue people who had the word generic word "sex" in a tube site..:1orglaugh

If someone is deliberately using their trademark then I don't see anything wrong with protecting their interests.

sponsorpimp 03-25-2010 03:37 AM

Ok let?s put it this way for example:
If I own na.de or any other na. from another country and Naughty America have no trade mark in that country they are out of their jurisdiction unless they have a worldwide trademark. Just my :2 cents:

And no I don't promote Naughty America or have any domains even close to their trade mark issue :)

Robocrop 03-25-2010 03:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NetHorse (Post 16976479)
Well it's not as bad as the idiot trying to sue people who had the word generic word "sex" in a tube site..:1orglaugh

If someone is deliberately using their trademark then I don't see anything wrong with protecting their interests.

Its greed you know :1orglaugh

andrej_NDC 03-25-2010 04:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sponsorpimp (Post 16976540)
Ok let?s put it this way for example:
If I own na.de or any other na. from another country and Naughty America have no trade mark in that country they are out of their jurisdiction unless they have a worldwide trademark. Just my :2 cents:

And no I don't promote Naughty America or have any domains even close to their trade mark issue :)

lol I own a domain which has the name and also a logo of a travel agency(one of the biggest ones) and I won the domain case, so this NA bullshit isn't even worth to read.

SEO Expert 03-25-2010 04:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JCK (Post 16974980)
I had a bad experience with them. My revshare account was suspended without notice for what I later find out was due to having too good a ratios which they claimed were "completely and utterly impossible" to achieve and thus they assumed I must be doing something suspicious.

After finding this out, I tried to explain it was because I was linking directly to the join page for much of my traffic and as soon as I started doing this apparently NATS did not count those hits or severely undercounted them causing the high ratios. Not saying it was NATS fault as I may have linked to the page improperly even though sales were being recorded.

After telling them this my emails were no longer replied to. I mean if they did not want me to link directly to the join page fine, I would have just changed my links, but the way this was handled was horrible. Anyway, just wanted to vent as although this happened awhile ago I am always reminded of my experience whenever I see Naughty America mentioned.

Damn that's fucking bullshit.

If this is true, fuck Naughty America.

RadicalSights 03-25-2010 04:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NetHorse (Post 16976479)
Well it's not as bad as the idiot trying to sue people who had the word generic word "sex" in a tube site..:1orglaugh
.

almost as...

john FVC 03-25-2010 04:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 16973861)
i gave up on them a long time ago. there once killer program has been a clusterfuck the last couple years.

Yep.. aint that the truth.

beemk 03-25-2010 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrej_NDC (Post 16976427)
They don't have a case. The term is just too common. I know, because they once tried it on my and lost the arbitration.

lol i think i remember that, didnt they try and say you were stealing their brand because you had "hot mom" in your domain? what a bunch of cock suckers. how much money did that end up costing you to defend yourself though?

edit: post any court documents you have with you winning, im sure anyone who has a domain they try and take can use them for their benefit.

fris 03-25-2010 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dennis69 (Post 16975148)
Thought I had it all removed... must of missed the thumbs!

question is why did you have it in the first place

beemk 03-25-2010 08:01 AM

the funny thing about this whole mess is that they are fucking the affiliates saying they are stealing their brand that they built so much but they wouldnt have shit if it wasnt for affiliates. guys like lenny and drinking hard and many many more have spent millions of dollars promoting them building their name. if they did all of this inhouse not only would they not have as many sites but no one would know about them.

andrej_NDC 03-25-2010 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beemk (Post 16977123)
lol i think i remember that, didnt they try and say you were stealing their brand because you had "hot mom" in your domain? what a bunch of cock suckers. how much money did that end up costing you to defend yourself though?

edit: post any court documents you have with you winning, im sure anyone who has a domain they try and take can use them for their benefit.

I paid $3k to the lawyer, but I think I would have won even without him, but who knows...
Its on top of google for "arbitration hotmomnextdoor".

Davy 03-25-2010 10:53 AM

Must suck for their affiliates. If you run an affiliate program, you should let your affiliates properly promote you. As long as the domains are not used to give naughtyamerica a bad reputation and as long as they are used to promote NA legitimately, I don't see any harm done by typo domains.

FMG-Nih 03-25-2010 12:28 PM

kakaka. be down man!

natas 03-25-2010 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 16973861)
i gave up on them a long time ago. their once killer program has been a clusterfuck the last couple years.

Agreed. Shame how badly these guys have gone downhill :2 cents: :disgust

Lace 03-25-2010 12:54 PM

Got this too.

What a fucking joke IMO. Go ahead, screw affiliates while they BUILD your name and continuously bring you income. :1orglaugh

Now mail me again after I requested to be removed from your program and ANY mailing lists you have me on...

Why 03-25-2010 04:58 PM

i see a big giant uphill battle on this one!

bigalownz 03-25-2010 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Davy (Post 16977720)
Must suck for their affiliates. If you run an affiliate program, you should let your affiliates properly promote you. As long as the domains are not used to give naughtyamerica a bad reputation and as long as they are used to promote NA legitimately, I don't see any harm done by typo domains.

agree

i got the naughtyamerica.mobi domain that i picked up that was first registered back in 2005 by some one else ( they missed out and got pissed off )
and i only use it to send mobile traffic to them
not to othe companies or made my own porn site or send traffic to sick shit

i signed up back in 2003 with socalcash and the t&c never said anything about doman names


i googled naughty america and there a lot of "naughtyamerica" domains that are useed to send traffic to them for years

bigalownz 04-02-2010 08:12 PM

will its past the 2nd of april

i contact them last week as usual no reply from them

NA was good but now since all the original staff have left they have gone down

im thinking about pulling my links soon

[ Nate ] 04-03-2010 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roald (Post 16973774)
nothing wrong with protecting your brand :2 cents:

Agreed. :2 cents:

MrBottomTooth 04-03-2010 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigalownz (Post 17002341)
will its past the 2nd of april

i contact them last week as usual no reply from them

NA was good but now since all the original staff have left they have gone down

im thinking about pulling my links soon

I contacted them too and never heard back after the original reply. I don't have a problem with transferring my two domains to them, but they never told me how to proceed.

Zango 04-03-2010 09:53 AM

Protect your brand = People hammer you
Protect your content = People hammer you
Have a min payout so you have time to search for fraud = People hammer you
You don't use message boards as your support = People hammer you
If you do anything out side the herd = People hammer you

Lets see who's still standing in 2 or 3 years. It's not going to be the ones who have done the hammering. You can count on that.

FrozenJag 04-03-2010 12:57 PM

I would like to see them take their resources towards protecting their content instead. :2c:

bdld 04-03-2010 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrBottomTooth (Post 17003259)
I contacted them too and never heard back after the original reply. I don't have a problem with transferring my two domains to them, but they never told me how to proceed.

same here, no replies whatsoever.

fatfoo 04-03-2010 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robocrop (Post 16973625)
Legal action will not be taken against cybersquatters and
typosquatters who transfer their infringing domain names to Naughty
America on or before April 2, 2010.

It is already April 3, 2010. Time to take legal action.

SatansCandy 04-03-2010 04:29 PM

"Now, O body, you are paying the price of the delights you granted yourself!...and you did it of your own free will I saw several souls fall into Hell, and among them was a child of fifteen, cursing her parents for not having taught her to fear God nor that there was a Hell. Her life had been a short one, she said, but full of sin, for she had given in to all that her body and passions demanded in the way of satisfaction"

-Sister Josefa Menendez - From the book Way of Divine Love - 1923

Robocrop 04-03-2010 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zango (Post 17003370)
Protect your brand = People hammer you
Protect your content = People hammer you
Have a min payout so you have time to search for fraud = People hammer you
You don't use message boards as your support = People hammer you
If you do anything out side the herd = People hammer you

Lets see who's still standing in 2 or 3 years. It's not going to be the ones who have done the hammering. You can count on that.

Did sleazy fire you? :1orglaugh

mikke 04-03-2010 04:41 PM

whats wrong with u ppl? are you killing yourself!!! ok, i know, protecting brands blabla.. so, keep your fucked up brands away from us and die alone...

btw.. naughty america, please register your new brand.. FUCKED UP AMERICA.


peace.

bigalownz 04-07-2010 10:10 PM

bumb bumb

bigalownz 04-12-2010 08:06 PM

fuck them

i got a letter today saying that i have to turn it over asap and they saying that i have been using the domain to send traffic to my sites when i have been forwarding the domain traffic to them

i wasnt going to fight this but now i might


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