GoFuckYourself.com - Adult Webmaster Forum

GoFuckYourself.com - Adult Webmaster Forum (https://gfy.com/index.php)
-   Fucking Around & Business Discussion (https://gfy.com/forumdisplay.php?f=26)
-   -   NAUGHTY AMERICA going after affiliates!! (https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=960005)

TeenCat 03-24-2010 11:03 AM

i think only those who are using their name to promote other shit are angry now ...

JFK 03-24-2010 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nikki_Licks (Post 16973642)
Looks like they are putting the hammer down.

it sure does:2 cents:

MrBottomTooth 03-24-2010 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TeenCat (Post 16974277)
i think only those who are using their name to promote other shit are angry now ...

Well they make no mention that they are targetting those who are promoting other sponsors with their trademarks. I received the email and I certainly don't fall into that category.

SmokeyTheBear 03-24-2010 11:15 AM

Everytime i see a company do this it shocks me. Go after bag guys one by one , not en masse like this , it makes no sense , scares your own affiliates and degrades confidence.

Lets just say for example , i start a blog called naughtyamericablog.com this is a pretty clear case of trademark infringment, but if i am promoting naughtyamerica the only thing accomplished by taking the domain is loss of business. as others have pointed out , the one month influx of free traffic doesn't = the future loss of traffic. The webmaster won't promote the site because they don't own it anymore , links will get pulled and the affiliate will move onto programs who aren't so picky. So you get a bunch of worthless domains and a handfull of pissed off affiliates for a couple months of free traffic.


and you made kitty cry, good job :winkwink:
http://psctools.com/gfy/sadkitty.jpg

maxjohan 03-24-2010 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kristin (Post 16973790)
Sorry but when someone says "NA" I don't think of Naughty America.

No application

Crazy people over there. Get off your ass, their business is hurt so they have
to come up with something crazy like this. Fuckem. Losers.

Just screams poor business right now, with leakage. haha

maxjohan 03-24-2010 11:22 AM

And it's the most unprofessional way to kick their affiliates ass. I mean, they could write without sounding Too paranoid. :2 cents:

Quote:

Originally Posted by hawkadu (Post 16973647)
Not good I believe. Its like kicking affiliates ass.....


will76 03-24-2010 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roald (Post 16973774)
nothing wrong with protecting your brand :2 cents:

i guess it depends on how delusional the person is who is trying to protect their brand, and if they think 1/2 the net is infringing on their generic name. we all know who those people are.

Nothing wrong with protecting yourself, but there is something wrong trying to steal from people by strong arming them and scaring them into giving up their domains that you know would never hold up in court but you try anyway just to see who hands it over to you. :disgust

will76 03-24-2010 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WiredGuy (Post 16974169)
I have no problem with a company looking to protect its trademarks, but to send this to every single affiliate is a little overzealous in my opinion. Its a handful of affiliates at best who are applicable and the tone of the email is rather aggressive in seeking any and all webmasters who might be infringing. Wouldn't it have been more professional to look at referral logs and send this email to those who are actually infringing? Either way, I'm not affected by this so it doesn't bother me all that much.
WG

right like if i own naughtycams or something, maybe they are hoping i would be retarded and think oh shit i better give them my domain because they might sue me. That approach, however has worked by low life's here.

will76 03-24-2010 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kristin (Post 16973790)
Sorry but when someone says "NA" I don't think of Naughty America.

99.999% of the rest of the population (not adult online world) thinks of Non Applicable when they see NA, so good luck with that one.

free seo 03-24-2010 11:34 AM

business must really be down for NA (:1orglaugh)

Nysus 03-24-2010 11:35 AM

Seems like a nice way to go about it.

faxxaff 03-24-2010 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sponsorpimp (Post 16974113)
Are the Trade marks World Wide or simply implemented for the USA as you may well know you can trade mark country by country or world wide...Just a thought :winkwink:

That doesn't really matter.

Using a brand name that is in use by a known party is pretty foolish - first of all because most people simply abuse it by promoting competitors ..... This has to be punished and most jurisdictions respect this without the need of legal formalities.

Protect your brands and drive fraudulent affs out of the market.

dig420 03-24-2010 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roald (Post 16973774)
nothing wrong with protecting your brand :2 cents:

I agree. I'm going after anyone with 'cuckold' or 'slut' or 'wife' or 'interracial' in their domain name. Get my atty on the line :1orglaugh

PSD 03-24-2010 02:12 PM

I had a bad experience with them. My revshare account was suspended without notice for what I later find out was due to having too good a ratios which they claimed were "completely and utterly impossible" to achieve and thus they assumed I must be doing something suspicious.

After finding this out, I tried to explain it was because I was linking directly to the join page for much of my traffic and as soon as I started doing this apparently NATS did not count those hits or severely undercounted them causing the high ratios. Not saying it was NATS fault as I may have linked to the page improperly even though sales were being recorded.

After telling them this my emails were no longer replied to. I mean if they did not want me to link directly to the join page fine, I would have just changed my links, but the way this was handled was horrible. Anyway, just wanted to vent as although this happened awhile ago I am always reminded of my experience whenever I see Naughty America mentioned.

Dennis69 03-24-2010 02:18 PM

It's easy to tell when a program is hurting or greedy!!

Sure protecting your brand name is fine but mass emails are not the way to do it :disgust

BillyHoe 03-24-2010 02:19 PM

lol good luck on winning a case on a typo.

RycEric 03-24-2010 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dennis69 (Post 16974997)
It's easy to tell when a program is hurting or greedy!!

Sure protecting your brand name is fine but mass emails are not the way to do it :disgust

Speaking of which... you better start removing the unauthorized Shauna on your site.
http://www.titsandnippleslips.com/to...Sex-Tape02.jpg

RycEric 03-24-2010 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RycEric (Post 16975003)
Speaking of which... you better start removing the unauthorized Shauna on your site.
http://www.titsandnippleslips.com/to...Sex-Tape02.jpg

Thanks Dennis.

Dennis69 03-24-2010 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RycEric (Post 16975139)
Thanks Dennis.

Thought I had it all removed... must of missed the thumbs!

TheDA 03-24-2010 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RycEric (Post 16975139)
Thanks Dennis.

Good god. I'd heard you were good with quick results but I didn't realise just how much so :)

georgeyw 03-24-2010 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roald (Post 16973774)
nothing wrong with protecting your brand :2 cents:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap (Post 16973782)
Quoted for the truth :thumbsup

I agree, however the brand was helped along by all the affiliates :2 cents:

What's the use in going after an affiliate who is promoting the brand? Shooting oneself in the foot is never a productive move :2 cents:

u-Bob 03-24-2010 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by georgeyw (Post 16975565)
What's the use in going after an affiliate who is promoting the brand? Shooting oneself in the foot is never a productive move :2 cents:

q f t

maxjohan 03-24-2010 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by faxxaff (Post 16974923)
drive fraudulent affs out of the market.

They never stated anything about this. Like a professional company had done. I mean, most times not seen in the adult side.

Dear affiliate,

We have been slammed by crooked affiliates, please bear with me that we have
no...intentions to.....use this as a scarecrow but we have to protect our brand


Their letter was almost 1/10 as good as my 2.minute try.

bdld 03-24-2010 08:07 PM

i'm in the process of removing links, i had been promoting them for 7 years now

Fat Panda 03-24-2010 08:22 PM

fuck naughty america

Fat Panda 03-24-2010 08:24 PM

their time would b much better spent removing all their content from every tube on the planet....

Fat Panda 03-24-2010 08:25 PM

my links are coming down too

LiveDose 03-24-2010 08:40 PM

Obnoxious. Stop being fucking lazy and go directly after the affiliates violating this policy instead of hitting all your affiliates with this type of email.

LiveDose 03-24-2010 08:43 PM

There was another annoying email sent recently from them that seemed like a personal attack as well but turned out to be a general email to all affiliates. Strike two, you're out.

andrej_NDC 03-25-2010 01:41 AM

They don't have a case. The term is just too common. I know, because they once tried it on my and lost the arbitration.

Robocrop 03-25-2010 02:28 AM

So Naughty america is gonna sue everyone? yea I can see that happen.... :1orglaugh

NetHorse 03-25-2010 02:47 AM

Well it's not as bad as the idiot trying to sue people who had the word generic word "sex" in a tube site..:1orglaugh

If someone is deliberately using their trademark then I don't see anything wrong with protecting their interests.

sponsorpimp 03-25-2010 03:37 AM

Ok let?s put it this way for example:
If I own na.de or any other na. from another country and Naughty America have no trade mark in that country they are out of their jurisdiction unless they have a worldwide trademark. Just my :2 cents:

And no I don't promote Naughty America or have any domains even close to their trade mark issue :)

Robocrop 03-25-2010 03:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NetHorse (Post 16976479)
Well it's not as bad as the idiot trying to sue people who had the word generic word "sex" in a tube site..:1orglaugh

If someone is deliberately using their trademark then I don't see anything wrong with protecting their interests.

Its greed you know :1orglaugh

andrej_NDC 03-25-2010 04:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sponsorpimp (Post 16976540)
Ok let?s put it this way for example:
If I own na.de or any other na. from another country and Naughty America have no trade mark in that country they are out of their jurisdiction unless they have a worldwide trademark. Just my :2 cents:

And no I don't promote Naughty America or have any domains even close to their trade mark issue :)

lol I own a domain which has the name and also a logo of a travel agency(one of the biggest ones) and I won the domain case, so this NA bullshit isn't even worth to read.

SEO Expert 03-25-2010 04:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JCK (Post 16974980)
I had a bad experience with them. My revshare account was suspended without notice for what I later find out was due to having too good a ratios which they claimed were "completely and utterly impossible" to achieve and thus they assumed I must be doing something suspicious.

After finding this out, I tried to explain it was because I was linking directly to the join page for much of my traffic and as soon as I started doing this apparently NATS did not count those hits or severely undercounted them causing the high ratios. Not saying it was NATS fault as I may have linked to the page improperly even though sales were being recorded.

After telling them this my emails were no longer replied to. I mean if they did not want me to link directly to the join page fine, I would have just changed my links, but the way this was handled was horrible. Anyway, just wanted to vent as although this happened awhile ago I am always reminded of my experience whenever I see Naughty America mentioned.

Damn that's fucking bullshit.

If this is true, fuck Naughty America.

RadicalSights 03-25-2010 04:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NetHorse (Post 16976479)
Well it's not as bad as the idiot trying to sue people who had the word generic word "sex" in a tube site..:1orglaugh
.

almost as...

john FVC 03-25-2010 04:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 16973861)
i gave up on them a long time ago. there once killer program has been a clusterfuck the last couple years.

Yep.. aint that the truth.

beemk 03-25-2010 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrej_NDC (Post 16976427)
They don't have a case. The term is just too common. I know, because they once tried it on my and lost the arbitration.

lol i think i remember that, didnt they try and say you were stealing their brand because you had "hot mom" in your domain? what a bunch of cock suckers. how much money did that end up costing you to defend yourself though?

edit: post any court documents you have with you winning, im sure anyone who has a domain they try and take can use them for their benefit.

fris 03-25-2010 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dennis69 (Post 16975148)
Thought I had it all removed... must of missed the thumbs!

question is why did you have it in the first place


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 01:29 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
©2000-, AI Media Network Inc123