You really arent making sense there. Nation destroyers is a reckless comment and you have nothing but your own fear to base it on.

Amnesty for illegals? Yes, the past couple of decades has been strict on illegal aliens. Thats why Walmart gets busted hiring them. Thats why in every news clip showing farm workers harvesting, they all have hoods pulled over their faces and hats on their heads. Pay attention. Thats why corrupt american companies hire them for pennies instead of paying a real wage and hiring fellow americans. You know what, it's too easy. Leave it at this: How was your 8 years of republican leadership on illegal aliens and reforming the immigration system?

And all this fear talk about Obama like he's a manufactured bot set loose on an innocent country in order to destroy it. All just talk. All born of fear. Whipped up fear in a frenzy of tantrum from a baby called the republican party. The minority party throwing a major tantrum because they picked wrong and didnt get any sweet deals in this new bill that became law. Tough shit. Better luck next time.

I would ask you the same thing, except you wouldn't "Get it".

Yes, tough shit. Enjoy the health care bill that'll never see the light of day:)
Btw, I love the "Fear mongering" double standard. When Obama fucks up, he doesn't really fuck up, the Republicans make it look that way!! Idiot

Once again The Demon types words that make no impact.

It's already a law, dimwit.

A law which doesn't go into effect until 2014, and that's assuming it doesn't get repealed by then. Tom once again proves his ignorance and stupidity.

Illegal alien problems in any country can be fixed really easily. Bust anyone....and I do mean anyone...who hires them and pays them money. Make is hurt and the cross border traffic will drop drastically. However, this cheap labor sustains what otherwise be an unaffordable lifestyle. Consumer services and food prices would rise. Either that, or citizens would have to work for less. The law of unintended consequences would kick in.

weekly, I completely agree!

The Demon, this law doesnt wait until 2014 to go into effect, but I didnt expect you to be up on even the simplest facts. I give up on you, troll away.

Good luck with that. When they do raids to bust illegals here, people complain it is racial profiling. They should just make a guest worker program like they have mentioned many times.

Let them come. Simply make a robust enforcement of CURRENT laws. How could anyone have a problem with that?

Awww that means Tom is full of shit. Let me dumb it down for you since it's impossible that you'll understand it any other way. The bulk of the health care bill doesn't go into effect until 2014. Watch this moron's head explode LOL

My point is bust the employer and cut off the source of funding. When you have "guest workers" it just compounds the problem. You either want cheap labor or you don't.

I gave up on him days ago when I realized he is only a troll and has nothing to do with this business.

And we gave up on you weeks ago when you realized it's nearly impossible to be as dumb as you. :thumbsup

Oh Demon you silly hick, you are no different than they. You are merely the opposite side of the same retarded coin.

No one will immediately leave for XXXX state if it wins for the simple reason that if one state "wins", they all "win" and this law will probably be repealed.

Hahaha sure thing, tool. :)

Tell me, is everyone on here paid by post for the "stick your head in the sand and whistle out your asshole because you think someone else is going to pay your way" support, or is that just where the cards fall?

Yeah, and someday they will clone dinosaurs.

That is a good point and true (sorry everyone that does not understand this) but I really think conservatives will have a hard time repealing this law and running on repealing it. The democrats seem to have some sort of party unity going on here and Obama has set the tone... dems will make republicans looks like they are trying to take away all the good things in the bill :2 cents:


spaz

You aren't dealing with someone who has the brains to be realistic.

They have November and 2012 elections. Speaking of unity, the republicans are pretty much fully united, whereas Democrats keep fighting amongst each other.

Where to begin...

1. What you describe with the states has been happening for years. People have been fleeing the high tax, semi-socialist republics of Massachusetts, California, Michigan, etc. for other states with less government burden. The people who are going to these aforementioned states are in fact looking for the handouts you mention. So it is already happening... unfortunately these states are losing more productive victims (tax payers) to the other states so they are close to bankruptcy.

2. I am rich and healthy and have not had health insurance for most of my life. It is an educated choice based on age, health, and statistics - The same variables insurance companies use to determine my rate. So, to answer your question, Yes... there are a lot of people who can afford it but choose not to have insurance. These same people do not want to pay for other people's medical coverage. Keeping in mind that the poor and elderly already get their medical expenses covered via Medicaid and Medicare.

Maintenance of life, at the expense of someone else, is not a right...

Amen to that ^

An intelligent and sensible response, as always from PR_Tom :thumbsup

It is this kind of logic that makes moron trolls like the demon grasp for straws, sling insults, and attempt to spin another GOP defeat into something that makes no sense, as usual.

If you looked at ranking based based solely on quality, The US is tops and that is indisputable
what does that tell us? to me it reads like this: anyone with a fat wallet is treated at
high standards - but what does it mean to the ones in misfortune?

DANG! the RICH ... re-read it ... the RICH may come to US for special surgeries or such ...
but, look at from a different angle: a not so wealthy couple with a 18 months old baby with
a heart malfunction and NO insurance ... let it die? :mad: what has happened to the social
thought in the US? if THAT is christianity and compassion preaching i sure as hell ask myself
what happened?

IN GOD WE TRUST - THE DOLLAR IS OUR LUST

oh, and ...
25 Germany
26 Saudi Arabia
27 United Arab Emirates
28 Israel
29 Morocco
30 Canada
31 Finland
32 Australia
33 Chile
34 Denmark
35 Dominica
36 Costa Rica
37 United States of America

boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo :2 cents:

And we fall right into their trap when we buy into the idea that the republican party is any better than the Dems.

Oh Demon, the solace a life of non-sequitur must bring. Watching you bumblefuck your way around an argument brings me joy. Dont get me wrong, I would like to see everyone you argue with dead, their families weeping on the edge of an open trench before the sweet release of a 9 mm thesis statement. But you... you have a special place in my heart. Your suffering would last an eternity.

And this type of post puts BFT3K in the "top 5 dumbest people on GFY" category. As usual, thanks for making us laugh BFT3k:)

That day is not too far off but just because you can do it does not mean you should

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Awww it's so cute you using words you can't possible fathom (non-sequitur). I enjoy children on GFY trying to sound intelligent..:thumbsup

did you really need 30+ lines of text and some color to repeat what I said in 2 lines?

No idea why you threw christianity into the frey, I can't speak for everyone here but I sure as he do not believe in intergalactic zombies and all powerful wizards

The one thing I have been very impressed by with the republicans is their party unity and consistency of message. These guys are all on the same page every day of the week. I will withhold my personal opinion on their message but you have to admire the tight front they have.

I think the problem they are going to face in 10 and 12 is that they are pandering to the smallest possible base. Everyone is entitled to believe what they will but the more moderate 'big tent party' republicans were a much bigger threat then this new ultra conservative semi violent tea party that the RNC is kissing the ass of. The majority of Americans do not agree with their policies or rhetoric and now their tactics of vandalism and implied threats of violence. The republicans would do very well to distance themselves from these radicals and move more to the middle and quickly

The democrats have their own problems, they are perceived as weak on defense and as spineless as a jellyfish, but they are now being considered by many to be 'republican lite' which is more centrist and appeals to a much larger percent of the population. I do not see them losing their majorities in either house at this point :2 cents:



spaz

I am not being belligerent, but so does the KKK, so did the Nazis. I don't think that is necessarily admirable.

Possible fathom? You almost make it too easy. That's what makes you so adorable, the banner of blissful ignorance with which you march triumphantly under. You are correct, I cant possible fathom. I don't know many people who could. However, I could possibly fathom. You think non-sequitur is such a difficult concept that only you could "possible" wrap your mind around it? Oh Demon, stop trying to make me love you. You know I have a weakness for simpletons.

i really think that's great.

no worries I dont take much personally :) I think that the way the current power structure is in the US it is a bit admirable. esp when contrasted with how disjointed the democrats have been over the past year. They couldn't get a majority of their members to agree on what day of the week it is and the republican's unity completely fucked up the heads of the democrats. In essence, their ability to stick together practically put the minority party in a position of determining what got done... unheard of power for a party in the minority. It looks like the democrats may have finally caught on but I am not holding my breath here


spaz

Sometimes minority governments can be effective. They have to listen to the people a little more closely. I think that is what the Democrats did in this case. This is a popular bill by all accounts, but it took some tweaking to get it passed.

Oh that's cute... The last resort grammar nazi argument. Haven't I embarrassed you enough already? I mean it was incredibly easy the last time, as you made it a point to make fun of someone's user name.. You can keep lying to yourself because honestly, that will make me laugh even more than you already do anyways. :) Btw, I'm glad you use spell check vigorously before posting, so as to attempt to sound intelligent. :thumbsup

*Waits for Gambrinus to desperately try and point out a grammatical flaw*

"Crowley newborn with heart defect is denied insurance coverage due to pre-existing condition."

No reform needed?

Read more: http://www.star-telegram.com/2010/03...#ixzz0jJa88UXL

spell check does not correct grammar.

As usual, weekly proves that he lacks the ability to live in reality.

***Waits for the "silent majority" speech***

Actually, it does lol..


Gambrinus is rather amusing. The idiots I usually deal with on this forum don't go through great lengths to try and make people think they're intelligent, but this kid does it without effort. Definitely amusing :) :)

I understand that in North Carolina grammar and spelling doesn't mean a lot, but to those of use who did graduate high school it does.

Oh Demon you silly goose, there were no spelling errors. You were a good boy, you spelled "possible" perfectly. Gold star for you.

Oh Demon, what does it say about you when you think "great lengths" means using proper English?

Oh poor Gambrinus, completely unable to read where I said "grammar". Here, let me highlight it for you so you understand:)

Here you go princess, I bolded it for you so you'd internalize it. Now I notice you said I'm from North Carolina. I don't know where you got that idea, but I'll ignore this point as you make it seem that your meds are kicking in..

And finally, I'm glad you graduated high school. The problem is, it doesn't appear you went any further. :)

C'mon, like I don't know who you are. That you aren't from Shelby. Please. You have no idea who you are playing with. I am going to enjoy this more than you know.

Wow, this must be embarrassing for you(aside from you trying to act intelligent and failing.) But you can continue embarrassing yourself pretending you know who I am. :)

davidd, I think the part where people have been choosing to not buy insurance and thus not pay for others care is really where it comes down, whether we like it or not. Those who pay for insurance and need to get benefits from it are being gouged and dropped because they are sometimes loss leaders. And thats because the poor and homeless and people without insurance who have an emergency still have to be paid for somehow. Those who can and DO pay out of pocket afterwards are not the issue. The only people the insurance companies have to get money from or cut losses from.. are their dwindling paying clients. So of course, they do. I think it reached the point where enough people saw it was unsustainable.


Oh and I know there are provisions in the law that dont take effect immediately. Some take effect later, and some even later. I was replying to the post which said "it'll never see the light of day" which it already has of course.