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03-28-2010 12:18 PM |
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Originally Posted by The Demon
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Not sure what you mean by deregulation, because we could debate endlessly on who create this whole mess. Furthermore, I'm wondering why that seems to be the only event that made you change your mind. I'm fiscally conservative as well btw. At any rate, you and I have ideological differences, but because you present your argument in a clear and concise manner, I have respect for you. YOu have to realize that for 1 of you, there are 99 others who are dumb beyond all belief.
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Deregulation. If I were going to pin it to one political figure (which would be folly but here goes) I would blame Reagan/Regan. I had a strong belief that the trickle down theory worked and that companies would act in their own best interest and the interests of our economy. This is wildly complicated and I am doing it a serious disservice here but in effect the corporations did do what was in their own best interest (Clinton gave them a huge stepping stone with NAFTA) and they fucked the American middle class. The class of our society which kept us competitive in a world market. The banks went wild with deregulation and the recent near collapse may have been long in coming but that did not make it any less devastating. These same institutions are so addicted to their gambling on high risk ventures that even after a huge loss they have not stopped the practices that got us there in the first place. I want strong and enforced regulation, tariffs, China to be labeled as a currency manipulator and for industry to move back to the US. I do not know if this is viewed as socialism by conservatives, but I am tired of the high paying secure jobs going over seas when we have a population motivated and in need of decent paying jobs right here.
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Such is the modern political climate.
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Yes it is and that speaks volumes about our social infrastructure that this speech, regardless of which side it comes from (yeah I roll my eyes often at Ed Shultz), is tolerated in what should be very serious discussions/debates over very important issues that face every single citizen of this country. I mean McCain said there would be no more cooperation for the rest of the year.....First I laughed, right out loud at the irony, then I got pissed. Partisanship is the very last thing this country needs right now and the first step to improving this country is a centering of the way we talk to one another
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Be more specific, and I see you didn't come out with a head injury like TheDoc.
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specifically I think someone is going to kill someone else over the tone of what is being said. Look, they called that doctor 'the baby killer' and some unstable person ended his life. Those that influenced this unstable person never accepted any responsibility for their part nor were they pressured to. I do not like to point fingers but I am seeing an awful lot of violent speech and imagery coming from the far right and they need an actual 'leader' to step up and calm this shit down before something happens that cannot be just pushed aside as the current political climate. Sat what you want about the Democrats, but the big tent party of the Republicans seems to have turned into a violent, far right wing minority party with money pulling all the strings......... I truly and honestly wish the Maverick (who I used to hold in the absolute highest respect and considered voting for until he added Palin to the ticket) would have stepped up and been a true leader for the Republican party. His concession speech had me in tears and now look what has happened.
what a shame
what a loss for America
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