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BlackCrayon 03-31-2010 05:04 AM

two of these attacks in 2 days...russia is going to fuck someone up!

Rochard 03-31-2010 07:02 AM

Looks like they got hit with a second round of attacks this morning with two more bombings.

I think this horrible, no matter where it happens. Targeting innocent people to get your point across is just plain wrong.

ShellyCrash 03-31-2010 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 16994047)
Looks like they got hit with a second round of attacks this morning with two more bombings.

I think this horrible, no matter where it happens. Targeting innocent people to get your point across is just plain wrong.

I haven't seen that yet. God, I hope not.


And :321GFY :321GFY :321GFY to all the anti-russian comments. Every culture has shysters and gypsies and every major world power has commiteed attrocities. These are innocent people that are dying. Show some respect. Saying that shit is disgusting :(

"Per aspera ad astra". Russians have triumphed over great adversity. There are so many beautiful things about Russian culture that most of us in the west are totally unaware of. Regardless of how anyone feels about Putin the people dont deserve this.

Agent 488 03-31-2010 08:37 AM

http://abcnews.go.com/International/...ry?id=10249413

cykoe6 03-31-2010 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by ShellyCrash (Post 16994243)
I haven't seen that yet. God, I hope not.


And :321GFY :321GFY :321GFY to all the anti-russian comments. Every culture has shysters and gypsies and every major world power has commiteed attrocities. These are innocent people that are dying. Show some respect. Saying that shit is disgusting :(

"Per aspera ad astra". Russians have triumphed over great adversity. There are so many beautiful things about Russian culture that most of us in the west are totally unaware of. Regardless of how anyone feels about Putin the people dont deserve this.

Very good post. People celebrate these kinds of tragedies are sick. :(

mayabong 03-31-2010 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by cykoe6 (Post 16994286)
Very good post. People celebrate these kinds of tragedies are sick. :(

This is from the independent but there are lots of other sources, GQ actually wouldn't print an article about this. Countries use false flag terror on their people, its the most effective way to gain power cause everyone falls for it..

"In addition to implicating his bosses in the assassination bid against Berezovsky, he also accused them of using his unit to carry out contract killings, extortion and corruption. His allegations prompted the FSB to charge him with kidnapping businessmen and extortion. The case collapsed, but he was rearrested. He was facing a third court case when he fled to London in 2000, where a grateful Berezovsky rewarded him with a job in his security detail.

Once in the West, the former spy continued to speak out, publishing a book - Vyzyvayu Sebya na Dopros ("Called In for Self-Interrogation") - which lifted the lid on the FSB. He alleged that the security services had been behind the 1995 killing of the head of the ORT television station, Vladislav Listev, who was murdered in one of the most high-profile unsolved murders of the 1990s. Litvinenko said that he gathered evidence about the killing and took it to the prosecutor-general's office. According to Litvinenko, he was arrested for his pains, while the evidence was destroyed.

In 2002, Litvinenko co-authored Blowing up Russia: terror from within, in which he accused the Russian security services of responsibility in a series of deadly attacks on apartment buildings in Moscow. The attacks in September 1999, which killed 300 people, led to Putin declaring the second war on the rebellious Russian republic of Chechnya.

The attacks were officially blamed on Chechen militants, and Litvinenko was certainly not alone in questioning the official version. The Independent reported the accusations against the FSB in January 2000. A friend of Litvinenko, Andrei Nekrasov, made a film, Disbelief (2004), detailing the allegations, which Putin has described as "delirious nonsense". But the most prominent person to accuse the Russian security services of responsibility for the apartment block attacks was Berezovsky, who financed Litvinenko's book.

Sound familiar anyone?

cykoe6 03-31-2010 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by mayabong (Post 16994776)
This is from the independent but there are lots of other sources, GQ actually wouldn't print an article about this. Countries use false flag terror on their people, its the most effective way to gain power cause everyone falls for it..

"In addition to implicating his bosses in the assassination bid against Berezovsky, he also accused them of using his unit to carry out contract killings, extortion and corruption. His allegations prompted the FSB to charge him with kidnapping businessmen and extortion. The case collapsed, but he was rearrested. He was facing a third court case when he fled to London in 2000, where a grateful Berezovsky rewarded him with a job in his security detail.

Once in the West, the former spy continued to speak out, publishing a book - Vyzyvayu Sebya na Dopros ("Called In for Self-Interrogation") - which lifted the lid on the FSB. He alleged that the security services had been behind the 1995 killing of the head of the ORT television station, Vladislav Listev, who was murdered in one of the most high-profile unsolved murders of the 1990s. Litvinenko said that he gathered evidence about the killing and took it to the prosecutor-general's office. According to Litvinenko, he was arrested for his pains, while the evidence was destroyed.

In 2002, Litvinenko co-authored Blowing up Russia: terror from within, in which he accused the Russian security services of responsibility in a series of deadly attacks on apartment buildings in Moscow. The attacks in September 1999, which killed 300 people, led to Putin declaring the second war on the rebellious Russian republic of Chechnya.

The attacks were officially blamed on Chechen militants, and Litvinenko was certainly not alone in questioning the official version. The Independent reported the accusations against the FSB in January 2000. A friend of Litvinenko, Andrei Nekrasov, made a film, Disbelief (2004), detailing the allegations, which Putin has described as "delirious nonsense". But the most prominent person to accuse the Russian security services of responsibility for the apartment block attacks was Berezovsky, who financed Litvinenko's book.

Sound familiar anyone?


Do you honestly believe there is a single Russian speaking person on this board who is unaware of the multitude of rumors (almost certainly false) that Putin and the FSB orchestrated the attacks in 99 to justify the crackdown in Chechnya???

Why must you assume because you recently saw a youtube video about the Moscow bombings or the Gulf of Tonkin that all of sudden you are spreading some obscure unknown information? Personally I learned about the questions surrounding the Gulf of Tonkin incident in high school 20 fucking years ago. Similarly there have been an untold number of stories written and debated about the Moscow bombings for more than a decade. Just because you are an uneducated and easily duped imbecile does not mean everyone else around here is.

You would make yourself look a lot less foolish if you just would shut the fuck up. At a bare minimum stop acting like 10 year old rumors and innuendo from an ex KGB agent are some kind of major newsflash........ or alternatively you could think a little deeper and wonder about the possible ulterior motives of the people you get your theories from like Alexander Litvinenko.

mayabong 03-31-2010 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by cykoe6 (Post 16994954)
Do you honestly believe there is a single Russian speaking person on this board who is unaware of the multitude of rumors (almost certainly false) that Putin and the FSB orchestrated the attacks in 99 to justify the crackdown in Chechnya???

Why must you assume because you recently saw a youtube video about the Moscow bombings or the Gulf of Tonkin that all of sudden you are spreading some obscure unknown information? Personally I learned about the questions surrounding the Gulf of Tonkin incident in high school 20 fucking years ago. Similarly there have been an untold number of stories written and debated about the Moscow bombings for more than a decade. Just because you are an uneducated and easily duped imbecile does not mean everyone else around here is.

You would make yourself look a lot less foolish if you just would shut the fuck up. At a bare minimum stop acting like 10 year old rumors and innuendo from an ex KGB agent are some kind of major newsflash........ or alternatively you could think a little deeper and wonder about the possible ulterior motives of the people you get your theories from like Alexander Litvinenko.

Yes his motive must have been to get poisioned one day.

You are right I will stop questioning governments and only accept the MSM as truth, cause they are not biased and they always tell the truth. Thanks for your harsh words and calling me stupid for you brought me back to my senses not to question things. Yes governments have been caught using false flags, but that was years ago! They don't do that anymore cause the people are smarter and the independent news would certainly report them if they were caught! Wow life is so much easier this way thanks buddy thanks... you are my hero and you've enlightened me. Now I go be a good consumer and pay my taxes without any problems.. can I have your number? can we go on a date?

Agent 488 03-31-2010 12:05 PM

lol read about Litvinenko. every evil thing in the world can be traced back to the kremlin. such a unified theory of world politics points to the fact that he's is a propagandist, disinfo agent etc. just as those who trace everything evil in the world back to saudi arabia, china and so on.

the good thing about propaganda is that there is no shortage of idiots to believe it.

Agent 488 03-31-2010 12:06 PM

you seen very simple.



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Originally Posted by mayabong (Post 16995033)
Yes his motive must have been to get poisioned one day.

You are right I will stop questioning governments and only accept the MSM as truth, cause they are not biased and they always tell the truth. Thanks for your harsh words and calling me stupid for you brought me back to my senses not to question things. Yes governments have been caught using false flags, but that was years ago! They don't do that anymore cause the people are smarter and the independent news would certainly report them if they were caught! Wow life is so much easier this way thanks buddy thanks... you are my hero and you've enlightened me. Now I go be a good consumer and pay my taxes without any problems.. can I have your number? can we go on a date?


mayabong 03-31-2010 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 16995048)
lol read about Litvinenko. every evil thing in the world can be traced back to the kremlin. such a unified theory of world politics points to the fact that he's is a propagandist, disinfo agent etc. just as those who trace everything evil in the world back to saudi arabia, china and so on.

the good thing about propaganda is that there is no shortage of idiots to believe it.

I really don't understand this post.

mayabong 03-31-2010 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 16995048)
lol read about Litvinenko. every evil thing in the world can be traced back to the kremlin. such a unified theory of world politics points to the fact that he's is a propagandist, disinfo agent etc. just as those who trace everything evil in the world back to saudi arabia, china and so on.

the good thing about propaganda is that there is no shortage of idiots to believe it.

Ok please tell me where isn't there propaganda? are you saying there is none in america? Are you saying our press is totally free? Please tell me where to get real news, really i want to know. lol

cykoe6 03-31-2010 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mayabong (Post 16995033)
Yes his motive must have been to get poisioned one day.

You are right I will stop questioning governments and only accept the MSM as truth, cause they are not biased and they always tell the truth. Thanks for your harsh words and calling me stupid for you brought me back to my senses not to question things. Yes governments have been caught using false flags, but that was years ago! They don't do that anymore cause the people are smarter and the independent news would certainly report them if they were caught! Wow life is so much easier this way thanks buddy thanks... you are my hero and you've enlightened me. Now I go be a good consumer and pay my taxes without any problems.. can I have your number? can we go on a date?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 16995048)
lol read about Litvinenko. every evil thing in the world can be traced back to the kremlin. such a unified theory of world politics points to the fact that he's is a propagandist, disinfo agent etc. just as those who trace everything evil in the world back to saudi arabia, china and so on.

the good thing about propaganda is that there is no shortage of idiots to believe it.


Maya it seems that even your fellow idiots find your arguments simplistic and unpersuasive. You might want to consider a new line of work. :1orglaugh

Naechy 03-31-2010 01:08 PM

what a stress pictures

mayabong 03-31-2010 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by cykoe6 (Post 16995269)
Maya it seems that even your fellow idiots find your arguments simplistic and unpersuasive. You might want to consider a new line of work. :1orglaugh

I'm not trying to persuade anyone.. cause most here are so closed minded that the MSM is the truth, when they have done nothing but lie about things. Building 7 falls by "fire" defying the laws of physics, and I'm idiot for even questioning. Israel attacks america more than once and I'm the idiot for saying hey wait i thought they were our friends. America actually prints up the "Northwoods Document" and I'm the idiot for saying, hey countries actually think about doing this stuff. You're O'rielly / Hannity / Beck style of name calling just leads me to believe I'm actually doing my job just fine. :)

cykoe6 03-31-2010 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by mayabong (Post 16995301)
You're O'rielly / Hannity / Beck style of name calling just leads me to believe I'm actually doing my job just fine. :)

I prefer to think my style is my own. Since I do not live in the US I have never even seen O'Reilly, Hannity or Beck's shows........ so I doubt they have influenced me too much. :winkwink:

Agent 488 03-31-2010 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by cykoe6 (Post 16995269)
Maya it seems that even your fellow idiots find your arguments simplistic and unpersuasive. You might want to consider a new line of work. :1orglaugh

don't lump me into this. you have no idea about what i believe.

i think politics is a joke. of course the simple minded cannot comprehend that one is not rooting for one of the political footballs teams or belief systems.

mayabong 03-31-2010 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by cykoe6 (Post 16995392)
I prefer to think my style is my own. Since I do not live in the US I have never even seen O'Reilly, Hannity or Beck's shows........ so I doubt they have influenced me too much. :winkwink:

Well it must be the 100th monkey syndrome. Everything the news reports is truth and anyone that diverts from that story is a conspiracy theorist. Not only that they are an idiot, wackjob, wingnut, retard. Really, who is the simplistic thinker here? The fact that you live abroad is very shocking to me, since most people I talk to in other countries are quite awake and do lots of research themselves and never would a conversation like this even come up.

:thumbsup

cykoe6 03-31-2010 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by mayabong (Post 16995488)
Everything the news reports is truth and anyone that diverts from that story is a conspiracy theorist. Not only that they are an idiot, wackjob, wingnut, retard.

I find your "strawman" style of argument to be quite tedious. I don't really feel the need to defend statements that I did not make or beliefs that do not have. :disgust


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