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BestXXXPorn 04-05-2010 11:03 AM

Apple does two things better than anyone else, IMO...

Form Factor
Marketing

Nobody doubts that apple products look better than just about everything else that's out there. Via great marketing they're able to sell a TON of hardware devices at insane markups. Much of this is do to their devoted fan base touting everything apple does which has a certain effect on the market (just like all the early adoptions).

Macs aren't better than PCs... In fact the performance vs cost makes Apple a bad buy... Not to mention when you start factoring in available software. That being said that doesn't mean people won't buy them... I, myself, use a Windows 7 machine and an OS X machine daily. (I also SSH into about 4 or 5 Debian machines daily)

The real question is... are you willing to shell out the extra cash to get less performance and less hardware and software options in exchange for the Apple form factor? Many people are and that doesn't mean they are any less intelligent or even "wasting" money. Everything is relative to the amount of cash you have/bring in.

I opt for building my own machines and running Windows 7 on them (as of now). I like the cheaper hardware, the additional choices in hardware, and the available software choices.

I don't own an iPad or plan on purchasing one until there's a few more features; video camera and usb support primarily... Once those are available the device becomes much more personally useful to me. Until then I can think of some great uses for an iPad as is. Specifically as a college student if most of your books were available in electronic format. Class scheduling, IM, note taking... really some great uses. I just don't fall into a category right now where it's a "must have" for me...

Anyway that's my two cents ;)

DamianJ 04-05-2010 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Babaganoosh (Post 17007457)
Your initial post directed towards me was "if you don't want one, don't get one! Choice, isn't a wonderful thing." I was going for the whole if you don't *blank* then don't *blank* thing. If you don't like my opinion, don't read it. That's what I meant by hypocrite. Add me to ignore.

Oh, so you are forgoing the dictionary definition of the word and just making up one on your own. Cool. You aren't annoyed me, why would I want to ignore you? I just wondered what was bad about a big ipod touch.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Babaganoosh (Post 17007457)
I call names when people annoy me

And I annoyed you by asking you what was bad about a big ipod touch?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Babaganoosh (Post 17007457)
(you're a pretentious little faggot by the way).

Wow. I clearly did annoy you with the whole 'what is bad about that' question. It was nothing personal.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Babaganoosh (Post 17007457)
You argue semantics and grammar.

No, I simply asked you what was bad about a large ipod touch. Then you got annoyed. Read it back. Nothing to do with semantics or grammar.

I am all about the love. You seem stressed about something else maybe?

Let's hug.

DamianJ 04-05-2010 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Babaganoosh (Post 17007473)
The Android Marketplace will never, ever make as much money as Apple's App Store, not even when Android devices outnumber iPhones and iPads.

Absolute nonsense. The android store will certainly take over from the app store, probably within 12 months. More and more devices are being brought out every day with Android on it. There will be tablets, more phones, netbooks. They will spank apple. Also they have other advantages, like not being forced to sell via a closed store.

Mr. E 04-05-2010 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BestXXXPorn (Post 17007504)
Macs aren't better than PCs... In fact the performance vs cost makes Apple a bad buy... Not to mention when you start factoring in available software. That being said that doesn't mean people won't buy them... I, myself, use a Windows 7 machine and an OS X machine daily. (I also SSH into about 4 or 5 Debian machines daily)

Wrong on both counts.

1) Mac OSx, especially Leopard and Snow Leopard are light years better than any shit OS MS has released.

2) Available software? Thats a non issue since you can run Windows on any Intel based Mac. Do some research before spouting off useless crap.

mgtarheels 04-05-2010 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 17006738)
So you expect something with a screen that is 5 times bigger to cost how much more? The same? Not sure of your argument here? Something bigger should cost the same?

Surely, after a couple of days you could have come up with something, anything bad about it being a large ipad? All you got is that something bigger costs more? Whoa!



Do you not understand the word hypocrite?

"the practice of claiming to have moral standards or beliefs to which one's own behavior does not conform; pretense."

I asked you what was bad about a large ipod touch. You haven't been able to come up with anything, this annoys you, so you call me names. It might frustrate you, but that isn't hypocrisy.

I mean, whatever gets you through the day and all. I defend to the death your right to think the iPad sucks and that anyone that likes it is a blithering idiot. But do try and come up with a sensible, practical reason for your hatred. Not just saying 'meh, it costs more'.


2 : a person who acts in contradiction to his or her stated beliefs or feelings



Yes, he used hypocrite correctly.

Babaganoosh 04-05-2010 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 17007510)
Let's hug.

(((((DamianJ))))) <3<3

*smooches*

Love ya!

Your BFF,
Baba

Babaganoosh 04-05-2010 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 17007516)
Absolute nonsense. The android store will certainly take over from the app store, probably within 12 months. More and more devices are being brought out every day with Android on it. There will be tablets, more phones, netbooks. They will spank apple. Also they have other advantages, like not being forced to sell via a closed store.

I can't see the future. If I could I would be buying lottery tickets instead of trolling GFY. Let's fight about it in another year, k?

mgtarheels 04-05-2010 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 17007510)
Oh, so you are forgoing the dictionary definition of the word and just making up one on your own. Cool. You aren't annoyed me, why would I want to ignore you? I just wondered what was bad about a big ipod touch.



And I annoyed you by asking you what was bad about a big ipod touch?



Wow. I clearly did annoy you with the whole 'what is bad about that' question. It was nothing personal.



No, I simply asked you what was bad about a large ipod touch. Then you got annoyed. Read it back. Nothing to do with semantics or grammar.

I am all about the love. You seem stressed about something else maybe?

Let's hug.

You're a retard.

You were wrong in calling him out saying he used, "hypocrite" incorrectly. He didn't.

Semantics is you arguing the definition of the word against his. That's arguing semantics.


Follow along.

RaiderCash_Dominik 04-05-2010 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 17007007)
That isn't the "App Store", is it? It is the Android Marketplace.

yes it is.

Check out our site for some of the more popular applications and games available in Android Market. For a comprehensive, up-to-date list of the thousands of titles that are available, you will need to view Android Market on a handset.

BestXXXPorn 04-05-2010 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. E (Post 17007537)
Wrong on both counts.

1) Mac OSx, especially Leopard and Snow Leopard are light years better than any shit OS MS has released.

2) Available software? Thats a non issue since you can run Windows on any Intel based Mac. Do some research before spouting off useless crap.

Whoa whoa, no need to jump down my throat here... I know that may be the usual around here when you have differing points of view but... I have done my homework...

1) Free BSD is not light years ahead of any other OS... OS X is a derivative of BSD. It has almost no support for any other hardware other than apple so... that should tell you something. The size of Windows based OSes and their clunkyness has a lot to do with supporting everything under the sun...

When it comes down to it it's how efficiently any particular task is processed... This usually lies not in the OS but in the software itself. For example... take two nearly identical setups, one Windows, one OS X... Now load up a 200MB RAW image and perform some filters / other post processing on them... Windows wins every time. It's really all Adobe's fault here, I'm just sayin...

2) OMG I can run Windows on any mac... sure if I want to a) dual boot or b) run it as a virtual machine... but running anything as a virtual machine adds another layer of abstraction and another layer of cpu cycles as well as additional memory held by the OS...

So relax... like I said, I use OSX, Windows 7, and Linux on a daily basis. They all have their strengths and weaknesses... I choose Windows over OSX for many reasons other than the two I listed. It's all personal preference... I merely stated some of my reasons for my own choices...

Ravage 04-05-2010 01:24 PM

Jobs is a brilliant man. He got 300k+ people to buy an unrevolutionary piece of hardware on the first day of release that his team will upgrade with a better feature list for the iPad G2 by the Christmas holiday.

He made the decision to give the iPad with all the failings the iPods/iPhones have with not being able to change the battery, no camera, no external memory card options, no webcam, etc, and not even listen to his apple followers. Why? Because Steve Jobs doesn't give a fuck about anyone.

I laugh that this once touted tablet PC device is nothing more than a large iPod with the ablity to use a few new apps like iWorks Lite.

Meeper 04-05-2010 02:08 PM

I think eventually this will be a great product, but for right now I don't see ANY use for an oversized Iphone.

DamianJ 04-05-2010 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mgtarheels (Post 17007540)
Yes, he used hypocrite correctly.

If by correctly you mean wrongly, then I agree.

Babaganoosh 04-05-2010 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adult Rental Chris (Post 17007848)
Jobs is a brilliant man. He got 300k+ people to buy an unrevolutionary piece of hardware on the first day of release that his team will upgrade with a better feature list for the iPad G2 by the Christmas holiday.

He made the decision to give the iPad with all the failings the iPods/iPhones have with not being able to change the battery, no camera, no external memory card options, no webcam, etc, and not even listen to his apple followers. Why? Because Steve Jobs doesn't give a fuck about anyone.

I laugh that this once touted tablet PC device is nothing more than a large iPod with the ablity to use a few new apps like iWorks Lite.

Yikes, that kind of blasphemy will get you on a Mac hitlist. Somebody is going to plant an iBomb under your toilet seat. There are some things that just aren't acceptable in this world like drawing a cartoon of the prophet Muhammad or talking shit on Apple or Steve Jobs.

Bird 04-05-2010 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ladyboy King (Post 17006879)
It CAN'T fit in your pocket or man purse.

It CAN'T keep a grease and dirt free screen after your filthy fingers have been all over it.

You suckers who ran out and bought the first generation, well, you're suckers. Keep consuming, sheep.

lol man purse

DamianJ 04-05-2010 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mgtarheels (Post 17007562)
You were wrong in calling him out saying he used, "hypocrite" incorrectly. He didn't.

So, do explain what is hypocritical about asking what is bad about a large iPad. Use small words. I am stupid.

I might not have time to reply cos I have to travel to Phoenix soon

xx

Ravage 04-05-2010 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Babaganoosh (Post 17007997)
Yikes, that kind of blasphemy will get you on a Mac hitlist. Somebody is going to plant an iBomb under your toilet seat. There are some things that just aren't acceptable in this world like drawing a cartoon of the prophet Muhammad or talking shit on Apple or Steve Jobs.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

NETbilling 04-05-2010 03:25 PM

I love this thread. PCs supporters crack me up. We have Macs and Pcs in our office... over 80 of them. The Macs NEVER have a problem. Wish I could say the same about the PCs that we are constantly fixing and replacing. I still have a G4 and a G5 in my office that I use every day and have never had an issue with either. Amazing.

brentbacardi 04-05-2010 04:05 PM

Yeah, its a cool concept but not worth it. It appears like its only use is to replace a basic notepad so therefore if it costs more than like $50 its not worth it. Otherwise I am not impressed.

I do love my android phone though because it can fit in my pocket and do MORE than the ipad (ie. multitask lol why cant an ipad do that?). I assume the iphone does approximately the same stuff as an android phone and I cant understand why you would pay more for an ipad that does less. If you want a big screen just use your netbook, which at least has a keyboard so you can type quickly.

Until the ipad can do what a laptop can OR becomes very cheap so that it almost disposable so it can be used as the 'pads' in like star trek or any other sci fi show then its not that great.

BTW the ipod was awesome until I discovered I can put on internet radio on my phone so I get to listen to new songs all the time without paying for anything and now it sits in my desk drawer. New concepts are awesome until the next new one replaces it.

Bird 04-05-2010 04:09 PM


Bird 04-05-2010 04:10 PM

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dav3 04-05-2010 04:14 PM

the ipad is great, it has sooo many usb ports!!

seeric 04-05-2010 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NetBilling (Post 17008129)
I love this thread. PCs supporters crack me up. We have Macs and Pcs in our office... over 80 of them. The Macs NEVER have a problem. Wish I could say the same about the PCs that we are constantly fixing and replacing. I still have a G4 and a G5 in my office that I use every day and have never had an issue with either. Amazing.

ditto.

my pcs, (which i keep around to use music software on) have constant issues. never once had an issue with a mac.

oh well.

most people just bitch because they have no control over something.

NETbilling 04-05-2010 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seeric (Post 17008379)
ditto.

my pcs, (which i keep around to use music software on) have constant issues. never once had an issue with a mac.

oh well.

most people just bitch because they have no control over something.

Agreed...

Babaganoosh 04-06-2010 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. E (Post 17006518)
Its not just a big iPOD touch...

Yes it is. Here's PROOF. Not that your tiny little mind will comprehend anything that conflicts with Apple's marketing. :1orglaugh

http://www.downloadsquad.com/2010/04...y-big-ipod-to/

candyflip 04-06-2010 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Babaganoosh (Post 17011095)
Yes it is. Here's PROOF. Not that your tiny little mind will comprehend anything that conflicts with Apple's marketing. :1orglaugh

http://www.downloadsquad.com/2010/04...y-big-ipod-to/

That's the good shit. :1orglaugh

PenisFace 04-06-2010 02:46 PM

apparently i posted in this thread, but i have no recollection of doing so.

Babaganoosh 04-06-2010 02:47 PM

Oh damn, wifi problems on the iPod Jumbo too!

http://www.cnn.com/2010/TECH/ptech/0...ex.html?hpt=T2

So much for "never a problem with mac." Could it be that Apple is not infallible?

JP-pornshooter 04-06-2010 03:48 PM

can do: make my stock portfolio look great:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup


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