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I don't really understand what you are saying in that paragraph about price on the head and getting another affiliate to beat the one out. How is that a convenient solution? |
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Do I need to rewrite all the blog posts and pages that have any Nasty Dollars sitename mentioned in them?
I'm sure that will be next on the list. Since I am using your 'trademark' to promote you, I expect to be hearing this very soon. I will make it very easy for you all. anything I have of ND's is coming down today. |
What is NastyDollars answer to ripping the html off these domains and putting it on their own servers, while only switching the referal code?
So these guys in question, send you sales for years, you JACK the domains, COPY the html, design, content, and replace the webmaster ids to your own. Pretty fucking cheesy if you ask me. Play it how you want, word it how you want in the emails, but we can see by your actions what the real plan is. You can't threaten people with money you owe them (closing accounts), and then rip them off since they need to get paid. Fuck you guys. |
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I can see why companies do this. I used to promote a well known credit card company program about 2 years ago, Infact my site was #2 on google, above their own corporate site.
They never complained. Until one day I got greedy and decided to promote one of their competitors offers on the same site, boom, I got a letter. I had to turn in my domain and kiss it good by. lesson learned :) |
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This is certainly a issue where both the affiliate and the mark holder/program need to walk a mile in each other's moccasins.:2 cents: |
Can we get a list of sponsors who do not allow this at all, and those that do?
I asked one and they said it was cool but im getting the feeling they could change at anytime. |
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Anyone that tells you it is cool to do whatever is probably not listening to the advice of a good IP attorney. Any company with a mark worth protecting either has or should have a very clear guideline on what you can or cannot do with the marks. Every program I know of has terms in their affiliate agreements that make it possible for them to change, alter, amend, etc. their terms to be able to change their minds on things like this with zero to minimal notice. So, no matter what affiliate rep jumps in here to snag biz from this conflict telling you whatever you want to hear, there is still going to be the plain open truth fact that the ownership can change its mind on a whim and the affiliate will have little to no recourse for reconsideration. |
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Now there is difference to someone who jack your domain, buy the mispell, then cross promo other sponsors. But there is no good reason to hammer guy who simply registered another variation of your name and promotes only your product. I actually used to like some of these brands but now :321GFY ill stick to smaller sponsor take my chances. Btw, the first time i signed up for a porn membership, i typed in "bangbros videos", cus i heard from a friend and saw on their computer the cool bb content on assparade. That was 8 yrs ago. Now if i made the same search i may type "bang bros tube". Go ahead google it. And come back and tell me how many affiliate or sponsor links come up in top 10. |
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So far, as a result of our experiences, we have been able to amicably resolve nearly every dispute without resorting to attorneys or WIPO complaints and with turning the webmaster into a successful affilliate. We always start with the sugar, never the vinegar; works for us. |
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At the end of the day, I'm happy a lot of you are starting to see the value of a good program. I'm happy I switched everything to TB when I started working with them and didn't change anything even after I left. I don't do anything to promote them anymore, yet I still make money from 5-6 yr old sites.
The more appreciation they get from affiliates, the gladder I am cuz they deserve it! There are few outstanding programs still left in the gam, and Topbucks is on the top of the list. |
Here Far-L I did you a favor, good luck chasing them all :glugglug
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Many, many thanks for the offer to help. Hit me up on email when it is convenient for you. timlake at homegrownvideo dot com. |
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Going to tell you right now that chasing this kind of stuff is one of the least fun parts of the day so your helping out is really, really damn decent of you. Thank you! |
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Tobucks hardly has the same "brands" as ND. |
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just got the email from ND concerning the trademarks:
Hi Guys, I know in the last few weeks you will all have been contacted about some trademarked domains that we need to get transferred. I wanted to write this email to you all because we value our partners, and heard some complaints from some of you. We have a revised plan that I am thinking of, but I would like to discuss it with you all and fine tune it to a mutually beneficial arrangement. Please email me at your convenience so we can discuss. Thank you, Ernesto NastyDollars it would be good to know the revisited plan, but i am today leaving my country for a week, so i am not able to discuss anything with them right now. |
they have to know what sites are hurting and what sites are helping to their trademark. i have seen many of their domains that are more than ugly, but i have seen also some that are really nice and i will be glad for those free sites as sponsor. go nasty think! :)
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just got another email, in a few words = they didn't find anything to cooperate with webmasters and still want "their" domains :D
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Talk about role reversal, I recently discovered why the sponsor CamazonCash who operated their main site Camazon had to cease operations and become Loadedcash. Seems Amazon didn't like their name being infringed upon and took over the domain Camazon, forcing the program to come up with a new flagship site - xxxblackbook.com http://whois.domaintools.com/camazon.com
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WINNER! The straight side of the industry is dying a slow death because the lawyers are focused on the wrong thing. On the gay side the lawyers are busy going after tubes, torrents and other things. They may not be outright winning, but they are surviving because they are focusing on what matters. If you apply the 80/20 principle, affiliates sitting on domains are 20% of the problem and everything else is 80% of the problem. Ignore the 20% and focus on the 80% that is really causing harm. |
if your a cybersquat affiliate its a good idea to push just the site your squatting on that domain
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Its starting to get Ugly. soon webmasters wont be needed
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Anyone else receive emails today?
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Bump for including Kinkydollars on list of programs to avoid
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Funny shit...
The two programs referenced ended up letting me have the domains since I was promoting their products only... |
So which big programs are kosher with using their site names in affiliate promo?
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To my knowledge the only ones kosher are Media revenue owned...
ND and NA both updated their terms of service to exclude the use of their domain names from future advertising. |
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